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niko 2006-05-05 19:12

ftp-client, gui-based
 
Hi,

I am looking for an gui-based ftp-client for my N770.
(I had no success with tnftp)

Please, I can't believe that I have not even found one yet.

kutibah 2006-05-05 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko
Hi,

I am looking for an gui-based ftp-client for my N770.
(I had no success with tnftp)

Please, I can't believe that I have not even found one yet.

I am not sure of any GUI based FTP-Clients, but you can use a browser based FTP like www.web2ftp.com

I use it all the time at and it's pretty much the same thing as an FTP program and it's FREE.

niko 2006-05-06 10:10

Thanks for your reply, kutibah.

I would not feel secure telling a third party I don't know all my passwords for my ftp accounts.

kutibah 2006-05-06 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko
Thanks for your reply, kutibah.

I would not feel secure telling a third party I don't know all my passwords for my ftp accounts.

Yes, I agree with you. I had that concern at first. But if you really think about it, it would be hard for them to monitor all the passwords because its a script that logs in for you. I'm not saying they wouldn't do it, but there would be no reason for them to want to steal the passwords or do anything with them. But of course, that's your decision. It's a great alternative if your work/school blocks FTP ;)

niko 2006-05-06 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutibah
it would be hard for them to monitor all the passwords because its a script

This is what makes it quite easy.

What happens here:
It is not only the login that is managed, it's the whole file handling.

You connect yourself with www.web2ftp.com. Your entrance dates can be stored on purpose automatic (maybe also without bad motive at first, however, imagine the company is taken over or hacked) or by chance. Maybe it's only an accesslog where they are stored and through coincidence they come into the net.


Furthermore (now I can only presume) the files you want to upload are reached to the web2ftp-perlscript and transmitted to your wish server.
It is easy for the script to analyse your files, store copies and to modify before they land on your wish server.

I am sure, you can imagine more misusage.

regards,
Niko

troubleshootr 2006-05-06 15:14

A port of Gftp would certainly be welcome. I would not trust third parties with my ftp login/password either.

kutibah 2006-05-06 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko
This is what makes it quite easy.

What happens here:
It is not only the login that is managed, it's the whole file handling.

You connect yourself with www.web2ftp.com. Your entrance dates can be stored on purpose automatic (maybe also without bad motive at first, however, imagine the company is taken over or hacked) or by chance. Maybe it's only an accesslog where they are stored and through coincidence they come into the net.


Furthermore (now I can only presume) the files you want to upload are reached to the web2ftp-perlscript and transmitted to your wish server.
It is easy for the script to analyse your files, store copies and to modify before they land on your wish server.

I am sure, you can imagine more misusage.

regards,
Niko

Yes, I understand that. But it also depends on what you host on the server. For my case, I just host a small proxy site in which I use at my school =) so if they do steal the passwords, they really don't get any usefullness out of it. But if your hosting an online store with potential credit card info, it can be dangerous.

niko 2006-05-06 18:10

Sure, but even if you dont care about your data.

You can get some trouble ist some scriptkiddys use your ftp accout for storing their scripts at your server. You can't imagen how many entries i find in my access logs where scripts from hacked servers are tried to be loaded in my content management systems...

Coolty 2006-05-07 05:25

Niko, I hate to say it but i think your opinion has been corrupted from seeing too much evil; it's like the case of a policeman, he sees crime and evil all day long, so the result is he expects everyone to be plotting something horrible.

No offense to you, but im sure the rest of us don't have this happen to us.

kutibah 2006-05-07 05:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolty
Niko, I hate to say it but i think your opinion has been corrupted from seeing too much evil; it's like the case of a policeman, he sees crime and evil all day long, so the result is he expects everyone to be plotting something horrible.

No offense to you, but im sure the rest of us don't have this happen to us.

I agree. Many of my friends are very uneasy about buying things online because of their fear of credit card theft. I on the other hand purchase items from hundreds of different online stores and some that are very small. Never once have I had a problem. I think this fear of the internet originated in the mid-1990's when there was no such thing as encryption. But everything is much safer now...

niko 2006-05-07 12:13

@coolty
Don't worry, I don't see crime everywhere and I use potentially unsave channels on my own.
It's just important to know about the risks and then come to a decision.

Please let us stop the safety aspect here. Finally I am just looking for a ftp client;-)

niko 2006-06-08 07:29

MaemoFTP.
Still alpha but a hope.
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~jualasal/gb/maemoftp.html

fredoll 2006-06-08 09:14

Alpha but working quite well !
Thanks
O Fred

johnf 2006-06-08 14:25

Have tried and all seems positive on my tablet.
Thought you might like some feedback
Great work!
John F.

niko 2006-06-08 16:16

In order to avoid confusion it seems that I have to point out, that the tool was written by Jukka Alasalmi and not me ;-)

dcarter 2006-06-08 19:58

on my N770
 
net2ftp.com works really well. Good user interface, and an optimized mobile viewing mode help things.

Really makes my N770 quite a little ftp client!!

Quick, convenient, free, and easy.

--if you don't mind a general lack of privacy.....

DCarter

Hedgecore 2006-06-08 22:39

MaemoFTP is excellent! Thanks so much for this. I get a bunch of error 0 - no error msgs but otherwise it's been flawless. I think I was the first in the world to use a 770 to FTP into an XBOX. :)

fredoll 2006-06-09 07:31

second to me !
Fred

Odin 2006-06-09 23:13

Yay! There *is* a God...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niko

Thanks! This improves things on a number of levels.

niko 2006-06-10 08:40

Since most of us have the 2006 edition already running now we have to hope that Jukka makes a 2006 package too.
Niko

bac522 2006-06-23 18:15

LOL, does anyone realize that the browser supports ftp. Just type FTP://[URL or IP Address]

Hedgecore 2006-06-23 19:18

HahhaHAhHAhahahhah... I'm smacking myself in the head. I'd still like to have a GUI-based dedicated FTP client but that's *really* good to know.

You made a cynical jerk smile on a Friday afternoon whilst stuck at work. Cheers.

Odin 2006-06-26 01:05

You can look, but don't touch...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bac522
LOL, does anyone realize that the browser supports ftp. Just type FTP://[URL or IP Address]

Well, yes. You can browse files, but the transfer is only one way.

jj_ib 2006-06-26 07:26

I think the browser FTP functionality is great, but have anyone figured out how you can actually download the files in the ftp source drive? I can launch them directly into the browser, but I miss the "Save Link As" button, which will enable me to save the file to my 770.

niko 2006-06-26 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by bac522
LOL, does anyone realize that the browser supports ftp. Just type FTP://[URL or IP Address]


Sure I know that and I bet you would not find even one modern browser that does not support ftp download. Even Safari is able to download from ftp-sources ;-)

But as Odin already said...

fintux 2006-07-21 07:10

MaemoFTP for IT 2006
 
I've ported the MaemoFTP now also for the 2006 edition. The port to 2006 was done quite quickly, and contains only one bugfix (a one that didn't occur in the 2005 versioni, at least very often). Maybe introduces some new bugs, though I hope not.

See more information & download at the home page: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~jualasal/gb/maemoftp.html

Odin 2006-07-21 15:13

Bombs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fintux
I've ported the MaemoFTP now also for the 2006 edition. The port to 2006 was done quite quickly, and contains only one bugfix (a one that didn't occur in the 2005 versioni, at least very often). Maybe introduces some new bugs, though I hope not.

See more information & download at the home page: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~jualasal/gb/maemoftp.html

I just downloaded it and tried it--when it came up, it found the old (IT2005 version) bookmark to my desktop. When I tried to connect, it bombed by just returning to home. I rebooted, same thing. I then tried to delete the old BM and it would not let me. So then I created a new one, same name, same parameters. This time I caught a glimpse of the remote file system being loaded to the window before it bombed.

My guess is that the old BM file(s) are squirreling it up. Where do I need to go to clear those out?

TIA

Hedgecore 2006-07-21 15:47

I created a bookmark (ftp.cdrom.com) and tried to connect... the bookmark window remained open, the connect statusbar was animated, and it crashed there like it was in an infinite loop. The only thing that worked was the power button. Could've been a freak thing, I'll try again later.

pc4ever1 2006-07-21 18:05

I also tried it connecting to a Windows XP PC from an app called Bulletproof FTP server.

It would connect then go thru the password routine, then go to the default directory and then crash. I restarted the 770 just to make sure it wasn't a memory issue. Once again it crashed.

This application looks great, just a tweak or two more and I think this will be ready for prime time.

FinTux Thanks for all your efforts!

Forgot to mention that I didn't have old Bookmarks to squirrel up the program like another user mentioned.

niko 2006-07-23 08:16

Thanks fintux and welcome to the forum.

Same crash-problems here with me and bookmarks are not deletable.

kimmoj 2006-07-23 10:20

Same here, crashes when connecting. Definitely needs more work, but it's a welcome effort. Will definitely see some use from me, as soon as it actually works of course. :)

fintux 2006-07-25 06:39

Hmm. Must take care of this immediately
 
Hi folks,

Sorry about the crashing problems. I was experiencing that too at first, but I fixed that problem, and I thought it was fixed in the one that I uploaded to my home pages (that's the one new bug that I was telling about on my home pages). It seems that I have at some point reverted the code (maybe when installing a new scratchbox to my laptop and restoring the code from a tar.gz).

I'll be back at this as soon as I get it fixed.

fintux 2006-07-25 11:30

Fixed
 
OK, now there is a new version that contains the fixed. There is still some regression from the 2005 version:

- the application doesn't show in task navigator (so it might be a good idea to not minimize the app)
- application icon is not shown correctly (default icon shown instead)
- book marks can't be removed anymore - though they can be edited (thanks for pointing this out)

Otherwise should work as in 2005 version.

niko 2006-07-25 22:17

Filebrowsing seems to work now, but I can't upload or download anything.

jj_ib 2006-07-26 08:18

Fintux' work looks great and the new version makes the connection without a hitch.
However, I can't transfer any files either. The app doesn't do anything when I press the < or > arrows and the ftp server doesn't log anything about these events.

guennewig 2006-07-26 08:34

same here for me!

fintux 2006-07-26 10:51

Brain on vacation o__O
 
Okay, I discovered the reason for that problem. It was because of changed window handling between 2005 and 2006 releases, which caused the program to not show any dialogs. This caused the uploads/downloads to be impossible, as well as removing bookmarks, and probably much other stuff. Now I have fixed that as well, and I tried to download files, and it worked.. I couldn't test uploading, because I don't right at the moment have access to ftp server which I have write access to.

The new version is now available for download. I wish the major issues are now fixed.

jj_ib 2006-07-27 06:58

Hey, it work now! Just did a couple of 100mb+ D/Ls using maemoftp and it performed really well. Active transfers are for me notably quicker than passive.
Fintux, thanks a lot for the work you put into this. Now I no longer have to plugin my 770 to anything except the power cable.

Odin 2006-07-27 23:27

Still not working (?!)
 
Still something funny on my 770 with MaemoFTP. I am now getting "Resolver errors", but it does not crash, so things are moving forward :D

...and a spot of chum for the sharks: I am trying to connect to a Mac.

fintux 2006-07-28 13:25

Hmm. That's caused by a error connecting to the host (I think it's the name resolving). Can you access the server with the browser's FTP (type ftp://<your-server-here>)?

I'll be away from computer for some time now, so I'll be unfortunately unable to help any further than this at the moment.


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