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Alpha4 2008-04-18 12:11

Help on a couple of Accessory choices please.
 
Can anyone suggest tried and tested solutions for a couple of N800 accessories please?

I'm looking for a screen protector that goes on without air bubbles and that isn't sticky/tacky when trying to use stylus on the screen. I bought some unbranded ones from Ebay but they have a few annoying persistent air bubbles underneath and there is a lot of sticky drag when using the stylus (I have put them on correct side up!). Ideally I'd like a smooth, glassy finish for stylussing(?) on.

Also, I am looking for a slim all-enclosing zipped case for the N800. I've seen some Mio ones on Ebay, but they look highly molded and bulky. I read (after search) that someone recommended a DS-Lite case, but this was countered by someone else saying that the N800 doesn't fit in such a case. Any alternative options please? Thanks.

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-18 12:22

Re: Help on a couple of Accessory choices please.
 
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Originally Posted by Alpha4 (Post 171500)
I'm looking for a screen protector that goes on without air bubbles and that isn't sticky/tacky when trying to use stylus on the screen. I bought some unbranded ones from Ebay but they have a few annoying persistent air bubbles underneath and there is a lot of sticky drag when using the stylus (I have put them on correct side up!). Ideally I'd like a smooth, glassy finish for stylussing(?) on.

Boxwave Anti-glare. It wont necessarily go on without bubbles, but it's damn easy to get those bubbles out (just push them gently to the edges).

GeraldKo 2008-04-18 16:36

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Please click both the Newbie links in my signature.

ace 2008-04-18 16:45

Re: Help on a couple of Accessory choices please.
 
Look into PlayStation Portable cases. They're plentiful and cheap (that's why I use one).

briand 2008-04-18 16:59

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I was given, a few years ago, a bagful (seriously!) of HP cases, for some programming calculator or whatever (a few folks "in the know" spouted off an HP model number, but I just don't remember it). They're made of leather, with magnetic closure, storage for two extra SD cards, and clip to my belt. They may not be the ideal, but they're as close as I've seen (and they were free and already on-hand!). If I remember later on this weekend, I'll snap a pic and post it, so folks can see the case I'm describing (and, no doubt, recognize which model HP whatever used to fit in it ;)).

Alpha4 2008-04-18 17:37

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Hey, Gerald, I clicked on the links as you suggested but the first one went to some blank page with a search box in or something. No screen covers or cases there.

The second link was even worse! It was some sort of tortuous, mindless animation that I couldn't be bothered to watch for more than 5 seconds.
Is it good? Could you precis it for me please?

Anyway thanks for the effort. I really do appreciate it. If you have any more links (preferrably ones that are slightly more helpful) that would be great.

Sorry, nearly forgot, sincere thanks to you other folk who provided helpful suggestions. Cheers.

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-18 17:49

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Originally Posted by Alpha4 (Post 171661)
Anyway thanks for the effort. I really do appreciate it. If you have any more links (preferrably ones that are slightly more helpful) that would be great.

He's giving you the tools to find the information you need—it's good advice. :)

The first link is a search page that covers all of this website, so you can search for cases and protectors there and gets loads of information (this topic has been covered very extensively in the past). The second link is a bit of a tongue-in-cheek guide to effective posting procedures for new users. Both links are ones you should take to heart. ;)

Wes Doobner 2008-04-18 18:30

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I use a leather zip case made by Franklin Covey, bought at Target for $6. It's supposed to be used for a notepad, but the N800 fits perfectly w/ a set of earbuds as well. Looks nice and still fits in my pocket.

I also sometimes use a small Samsonite camera bag bought at Walmart for $9, that holds the N800, an iGo folding bt keyboard, the charger and earbuds. For longer trips.

Alpha4 2008-04-18 18:54

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@GA. If by "tongue-in-cheek" you mean condescending, I'm with you all the way.

Helpfulness, positivity, toleration, love, compassion, generosity and understanding those are the things you take to heart, 'effective posting procedures'.... not so much.

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-18 19:03

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Originally Posted by Alpha4 (Post 171698)
@GA. If by "tongue-in-cheek" you mean condescending, I'm with you all the way.

It's not his problem if you can't handle a little humor. :)

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Originally Posted by Alpha4 (Post 171698)
Helpfulness, positivity, toleration, love, compassion, generosity and understanding those are the things you take to heart, 'effective posting procedures'.... not so much.

Hey, if you don't want to take good, helpful advice, then don't, but don't say we didn't try to help you.

Alpha4 2008-04-18 19:25

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Actually, *you* have helped me, I've just ordered me a couple of Boxwave screen protectors on your recommendation. Now I'm off to evaluate PSP or Franklin Covey cases to see if I can find one I like, as per Wes D & ace's suggestions.

tso 2008-04-18 19:31

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oh, and maybe look up "september that never ended". it may give some insight into the reason for some of the posts on this thread...

(or was it october? i keep getting those mixed up ;))

sjgadsby 2008-04-18 19:57

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Originally Posted by tso (Post 171713)
oh, and maybe look up "september that never ended". it may give some insight into the reason for some of the posts on this thread...

(or was it october? i keep getting those mixed up)

"September" is correct.

Benson 2008-04-18 20:05

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Helpful link: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html...ver-ended.html
For those who avoid Google, since it's "some blank page with a search box in or something."

Dqkata 2008-04-18 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha4 (Post 171698)
@GA. If by "tongue-in-cheek" you mean condescending, I'm with you all the way.

Helpfulness, positivity, toleration, love, compassion, generosity and understanding those are the things you take to heart, 'effective posting procedures'.... not so much.

:) That was a very good one Alpha4.

And by the way, I've never understood those people like GeneralAntilles and the other from above. Don't you think that instead of writing so much un useful information ( like links that you have to go and search for hours to find something ; and explanations of what this person wrote) you could have just written the information that Alpha4 was searching for ??!! Please think about this next time when you answer questions. It's more useful and easier for everybody !

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-18 21:08

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Originally Posted by Dqkata (Post 171747)
Please think about this next time when you answer questions. It's more useful and easier for everybody !

No, sorry, it's actually not.

Benson 2008-04-18 21:34

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Give a man an answer, you help him for 5 minutes.
Show him where to find the answer, you help him for the rest of his life. (Or rather, until someone else would have slapped him with a search engine anyway, I guess; so let's say maybe a month instead.)

Which is better, from the same investment of your time?
  • Help him for 5 minutes (with one answer, to a question where one answer can't sum it up; there will be differences of opinion on screen protectors and cases, and reading a thread is way more help than reading one reply)
  • Help him for at least a couple weeks, with the same ''harsh'' manner that he will run into then instead?
<shrug /> We each have to make up our own mind, and if you feel that it's really more useful for everyone to post the info (and increase SNR for those who are searching, BTW), that's your choice, and you can do it; but it seems really odd that you think it's more useful even to post nothing but criticism of those trying to help (not so much as a search link, and that itT custom search is jolly useful, at least for me) than to post your advice on cases and protectors.

briand 2008-04-18 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dqkata (Post 171747)
And by the way, I've never understood those people like GeneralAntilles and the other from above. Don't you think that instead of writing so much un useful information ( like links that you have to go and search for hours to find something ; and explanations of what this person wrote) you could have just written the information that Alpha4 was searching for ??!! Please think about this next time when you answer questions. It's more useful and easier for everybody !

agreed wit GA's response, above. If you come to me hungry and I give you a fish, you'll eat today and be satisfied. Tomorrow, you'll likely be hungry again, and may very well come back to where you previously had success in solving an immediate problem, and ask for another fish. If, on the other hand, I teach you how to catch your own fish, I've helped you to become self-sufficient in solving that sort of problem on your own, without further intervention or guidance from me. See?

...and, regarding that September -- I had a hand in connecting a large online service up to the internet, at around that same time... but it wasn't that online service!! (it was the one ranked right next to it on the list of large online services, though. our users were net-savvy, though! ;))

sjgadsby 2008-04-18 21:58

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This has been discussed previously.

Alpha4 2008-04-18 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 171729)
Helpful link: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html...ver-ended.html
For those who avoid Google, since it's "some blank page with a search box in or something."

Yes, sorry about that, Just a bit of indulgent sarcasm I'm afraid. It's not big and clever, but I am prone to it occasionally.

Anyhoo.. AS I said in my original post, I did search (ref DS-Lite case) but did not find a definitive answer. So I thought I'd seek specific advice from IT owners who had first-hand experience and knowledge of the two items I am interested in.

I guess that forums imitate real life; some people are helpful and some are not. I should learn to acknowledge the help from the former and ignore the latter. Sometimes I can't resist though...;)

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-18 22:15

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 171768)
This has been discussed previously.

Sadly (as with every other time this has come up and some grand new beginning of wiki/faq/whatever effort seems to spring forth), that never actually went anywhere. :\


Besides, this thread is a helluva lot more helpful. :D

GeraldKo 2008-04-18 22:18

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Yes, I have my signature point to the Google link on the home page of this forum because it's tremendously helpful. But I also am making a point about each participant's relationship to the community.

When someone posts a question about an issue that has been thoroughly addressed already, it lowers the signal-to-noise ratio (to adopt Benson's point) in two ways: it creates more crap to wade through for those who do use search, and it creates more crap to wade through for those who troll through the recent posts either to learn something new or to see opportunities to provide help to those who actually need it.

First, let me say that I believe that (pretty much) no question is too stupid. If someone has tried to understand something and doesn't, or has tried unsuccessfully to find some information, it's great to be able to help him/her. That's different than spoon-feeding someone who is just too lazy, self-important, or selfish to make some effort.

Doubtless, I've posted questions that are stupid or could have been answered by information that was already available here but which I hadn't found. But first I make an effort on my own, and I expect the same of others.

In addition to creating a low signal-to-noise ratio, posts like the one that started this thread waste everyone's time. There are a lot of people here who really give generously of their time and knowledge -- I think I do, and even higher on the list I put General Antilles and Benson and fanoush and anidel and bunanson and brontide and brecklundin and many others. Some of what we do is troll through recent posts seeing where we can be of help. It takes time to do it, and it takes more time when there are posts asking already-answered questions. The moral (yup, I used that word, and mean it in a deep sense) thing to do is not take advantage of that generosity needlessly, because it wastes time that could be better spent and in the long run it burns out the generous and depletes the reservoir of generosity.

Sometimes I answer questions that the poster should have found on his own. Some of the time I think I answer those questions out of habit and because I'm a nice guy; and, afterwards, I feel like it would have been better to have told them how to fish (and to fish) rather than having provided the fish. Answering those questions directly serves to ingrain a bad habit and incrementally harms the forum as a common resource, and I regret when I do that. I think this forum is remarkable, and I feel really fortunate to be able to participate in it, both as a giver and a taker.

Alpha4, I look forward to helping you in the future when you have questions that deserve personal attention, and maybe you'll be helping out me and others on this forum, too, when you know things we don't. (Heck, I've already learned a new word, "precis," though I understand it to be a noun.) But I would prefer you don't act, even unconsciously, like you're the center of the universe.

Alpha4 2008-04-18 22:31

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"But I would prefer you don't act, even unconsciously, like you're the center of the universe." Bit rich from someone who just posted a comment with at least 20 incidences of the word 'I' in, don't you think?

All this talk of fish is making me hungry. Where's that tin of sardines I wonder? Hang on, that empty sardine tin is just the right size for my N800.....

sjgadsby 2008-04-18 22:50

Re: Help on a couple of Accessory choices please.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 171777)
Sadly (as with every other time this has come up and some grand new beginning of wiki/faq/whatever effort seems to spring forth), that never actually went anywhere.

Yes, that was part of the intended humor.

Wes Doobner 2008-04-18 23:00

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I like turtles.

sjgadsby 2008-04-18 23:12

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Originally Posted by Wes Doobner (Post 171800)
I like turtles.

Me too. Is there maemo LOGO yet? Off to search...

yabbas 2008-04-19 00:36

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I'm off to have a wank.

sjgadsby 2008-04-19 00:46

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Originally Posted by yabbas (Post 171818)
I'm off to have a wank.

Wow, you really like turtles!

Benson 2008-04-19 04:23

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Originally Posted by Alpha4 (Post 171770)
Yes, sorry about that, Just a bit of indulgent sarcasm I'm afraid. It's not big and clever, but I am prone to it occasionally.

I'm equally sorry about mine; so I guess we differ only in as much as I recognized your sarcasm.

Alpha4 2008-04-19 07:26

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Oh, I think we differ in so many ways. Let me count the ways.....


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