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dskeeles 2006-05-09 01:24

So, how to get Orb working...
 
As much as I've tried, I still can't get Orb working on my 770...

I've tried dropping the "Device Speed" progressively down as low as 34kbps, at which speed I know video streaming to work from the BBC website, but Orb's stream continues to result in a pause and then "Connection Lost" error.

It seems some people have it working with no problem, and some can't get it to work at all. Has anyone figured out the definitive reason?


Damian

mschoen 2006-05-09 01:29

Well if you're streaming video / music off your home/server computer it should work easily, I dont think anyone has been able to stream TV from am internetsource yet, I think most people hook TV up the the computer/server and stream it over network that way.

microguy 2006-05-09 08:37

hello,

With my nokia770 and orb, all is OK, but with a low bitrate like 76 kbps or like 72 kbps and only with Real media stream.
Don't forget to open your firewall
"For Real and 3GP Media: you need to be able to connect to TCP port 554 and UDP ports 13398 to 13401."
and open outgoing TCP ports 80,82, 85 and 86.
Orb support about firewall

Good luke :D

dskeeles 2006-05-11 23:36

That's the funny thing; I'm using it inside my firewall. I don't have any configurations set for those ports in particular, but my router is uPnP-compatible and streaming to a laptop inside my firewall works (although on WMP9). I have any outgoing traffic permitted by default, so streaming from my server onto the internet should be OK. Streaming back into my LAN to the 770 shouldn't need any settings, because the 770 initiates the request(?).

captcaveman 2006-05-22 14:44

I was having the same problem with "connection lost" then realized I didn't have Realplayer installed on my pc. Orb had nothing on the pc to convert the stream to Realplay for my 770 to play. Orb worked fine on other remote pc's but that's because they were using windows media player to play the stream. Hope this helps.

aleksandyr 2006-05-22 18:09

Magic number appears to be 192: any greater than that and I get incompatible format errors.

64-112: Crappy video quality playing at full speed.
113-128: CPU is -almost- at 100% load. Probably ideal.
129-160: Nicer video, occasional slowdowns.
161-192: Best video/audio, frequent pauses and skips.

This was with Real Alternative on my home box, over a link that can sustain about 256kbit. I'll post again if being inside the network changes anything.

dskeeles 2006-06-04 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by captcaveman
I was having the same problem with "connection lost" then realized I didn't have Realplayer installed on my pc. Orb had nothing on the pc to convert the stream to Realplay for my 770 to play. Orb worked fine on other remote pc's but that's because they were using windows media player to play the stream. Hope this helps.

CaptCaveman, you just revolutionised my life! Yep, it was the missing codec.

I did test by comparing to RM playing on my laptop, but remember some tests I did with Internet TV, where host encoding wouldn't have been tested.

What I still don't get:
- I installed RealAlternative 1.48, which is apparently a player only. However, it must surely have encoding too to be useful here?
- Where should RSTP ports 554 and 13398-13401 be opened from/to? Into the host/server? Surely the stream coming IN wants to be directed to the client, not the server? Everyone (including Orb) seems to say this is correct (direct to server), but why is this the case?

Currently I do have these ports opened inbound towards the server, but it's possibly streaming direct within my LAN, so the firewall isn't being tested.


Damian

paulrb02 2006-07-06 23:01

yeah
 
i still can't get orb to work. it says resolution not supported. i have real alternative, os 2006, and i am working inside my router. any help

dskeeles 2006-07-06 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulrb02
i still can't get orb to work. it says resolution not supported. i have real alternative, os 2006, and i am working inside my router. any help

You've manually restricted the web client data rate to under 168kbps?

maxilogan 2006-07-07 13:49

Hi all, I'm waiting for my 770 to return back from assistance cause white screen of death appeard.

In the meantime I was trying to understand how Orb works and got the following point:is there any hope to have Orb (or anything similar such as TVersity etc.) working on a (obsolete?) Athlon 2200+ and 768 MB ram?

I still didn't catch whether TVersity (that seems to be less resource-hungry then Orb) will allow me to stream TV o media over the internet and see them remotly on the 770 or if it will work only internally a WLAN

paulrb02 2006-07-07 16:17

got it fixed
 
yeah thanx. I had 2 problems. First i was trying to watch a letterbox sized movie which doesn't work, but I lowered it to 96 Kbps( any higher and I had problems) and it worked fine.

If you get "Resoltion Not Supported" It means that probally your bandwidth is to high just lower the maxium speed and it will work

For anyone else here are some tips: Get Real Alternative, its the codec you need. Drop the bandwidth in Orb, under tools(right hand side). I dropped it to 96 kbps, ppl say 62-168 kbps (Play around with it). After that orb will work great.

Also for a wide screen show I have, I had to drop the bandwidth to 72 Kbps for it to work.

video's a little choppy but its good enough for me, thanx for the help

MikeL 2006-07-07 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxilogan
I still didn't catch whether TVersity (that seems to be less resource-hungry then Orb) will allow me to stream TV o media over the internet and see them remotly on the 770 or if it will work only internally a WLAN

It works local and remotely, the only limitation is the Nokia 770's current inability to stream rather than download. (OS 2006)

dskeeles 2006-07-08 07:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeL
It works local and remotely, the only limitation is the Nokia 770's current inability to stream rather than download. (OS 2006)

Yes, I've just upgraded to OS2006, and it seems to support a slower streaming rate and less reliably, than OS2005. Along with the lack of VNC, I think I'll downgrade back for now.

maxilogan 2006-07-08 08:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by dskeeles
Yes, I've just upgraded to OS2006, and it seems to support a slower streaming rate and less reliably, than OS2005. Along with the lack of VNC, I think I'll downgrade back for now.

Oh! What a pain... So, let's do the sum on OS2006: no NFS, no streams or less capability, and (personally) cannot use GTalk other than with a phone connection. Guess I too should downgrade... :( at least, I'll do it once I get my 770 back after white screen has been repaired :mad:


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