Random startup?
 

The other morning I shut down my 770, and sat it beside me. Later in the day, I hear Nokia startup tune come from my tablet. I slid it open and sure enought, it was on. Has anyone else had this happen?

On a related note, if it were to be powered up, while the hard cover is still on, is it really running, or does it go into some sort of power save mode?

Haven't seen that problem. However in answer to the second part, with the cover on, it should be in power saving mode. Hoever even in power saving mode it still draws power, just not as much. It should last about a week in standby.

However, I just tested and couldn't get my nokia to power up while the case was on, after I pulled it out, and turned it on, it did complete the start up with the case on, so this is just strange. See if it happens anymore or if this time was just a fluke.

So, with the cover on, it should never be able to power up? There were several times where I slid open the case, and found the device on. My initial impression was that the power button was pressed while sitting in my bag. But given what you said, then there is indeed something strange going on.

Additional info: It is currently running OS version 5.2006.13-7

I'm running the the older (december) release software. However when I tell the device to switch off, and it shuts down. With the case on it does not come back on when pressing the button.

If you have a box that you can do it with. Connect via wifi to a network and then ping the 770, keep the ping going while you put the case back over the screen. If the ping does not fail, it means that you're 770 doesn't see the case when it's on, and it's not going into stand by (you can probably test this by looking in the 1mm gap between the case and the unit to see if the screen is lit).

Alright, I will monitor it the next few days and report back.
Thanks!

There are two easier ways to test this:

1. If wifi is connected, closing the lid should shut wifi off. Just slide the lid on and off; if wifi disconnected automatically then it sensed the lid.

2. Use the hardware zoom buttons, or really any other button you can reach with the lid on. Close the lid, press zoom 10 times, open the lid. If the dot on the i fills your screen, then the button was doing something and it didn't know the lid was closed. :)

This has been happening to me on the old December software and the new March/April software. What happens is that when you press the Power button, it powers up but doesn't necessarily turn on. So when you take off the case it starts loading without having to press the power button. But in some of my other experiences, it loads even with the case on. Very buggy....

strange that you mentioned that your machine turns on by its self. i have not notice my turn on but i have found that my battery was dead after knowing that i have turned it off the night before on several occassions. i know that or thought that i turned it off correctly but may be not.

Actually, I just tested mine a few times. If you press the power button like you normally would to turn it on while in the case, it still powers on. You can even see the light power on when you look at it through the side. I guess this is a bug they have to fix in the next update?

Mine does the same, I am using the April software.

I keep trying and I can't get mine to turn on. Tried it yesterday, trying now. Pushing the power button while the lid is on does nothing for me.

Try holding it for like 2-3 seconds?

By the way, what firmware are you using? The latest March/April one or the December?

I've held the button for up to 10 seconds. I'm running the december firmware, but I thought you said you had the same problem with the december one too.

Yeah. That's weird.

I have the same problem...
 

I usually leave it on in the day time, but when I go to sleep
I am 100% sure I turn it off not to loose charge on battery when I'm not using it. But every morning when I take it off the lid, the thing is POWERED on AND RUNNING! :) First couple nights I thought maybe I'm wrong but I try it every single night and it just powers on, I wonder if it does that on a specific time? That's what I'm thinking now, maybe it has like a specific time set to it to power on?? I will start to check it whenever I get up from my sleep each night to see if there is a specific time that it does that :))
I will be watching this Thread for a possible solution, I have the latest firmware(I believe April)

Yeah, I've had been wondering if it was clock related.

Mine has turned on a couple of times on its own also. I can't figure out any pattern to this, as it is random and has only happened twice. The other wierd thing I experience sometimes is that after I hit the power button and choose "switch off", the unit powers down but then immediatly boots back up on its own. Weird! Firmware is 3.2005.51-13...

Someone else had a similar problem http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=1756

if it is clocked related, that would be cron. Hoever if it's switched off (and thus truely powered down) cron won't run.

[cron] that makes perfect sense to me.

I've also wondered if I am just closing the case too soon, before it's fully shutdown. Again, I haven't spent the time I should to investigate.

Contemplated checking crontab entries, but i doubt I would find anything out of the ordinary.

Closing the lid as soon as I say switch off has no effect. I think this is odd that some people but not everyone is seeing this problem.

Has anyone called nokia and asked them about it yet?

I thought I was closing the case too soon but NO
 

I thought I was closing the case too soon, but I have waited for it to FULLY POWER OFF and then close the lid. It still does the same thing. Well, I was sick of charging my 770 in day time, when I need it the most, so I started to take the battery off when I go to sleep :)

No Specific Time!
 

Like I said earlier I was going to check it at nite times to see if it powers on at a specific time. Well I haven't left it with the batteries on at night, but this morning at like 10:00am I have turned it off, and then when I checked it on like 12:30 pm It was on.. So now instead of thinking that it does that on a specific time, I started to think if it has like a timer type of thing... or maybe it is just RANDOM which does not make any sense to me.

If it's switched off (and really off) then there is nothing program wise working in it. The clock is maintained by the bios on the computer not the operating system.

FYI, the 770 (currently) doesn't have a crond or atd implementation - so it's definitely not related to that.

rattis: technically as the 770 isn't an x86 machine with a traditional PC architecture it doesn't have a BIOS. The clock is maintained by the RTC (Real Time Clock) itself.

Cheers,

Andrew

Meh, never said I was an expert at all things.

It just seems so :-)

I noticed the same behavior. It doesn't seem to be random. The last two nights it has turned itself on at the same time, just before 3:00 AM.

Think I'll go back to sleep now.

Lance

Are you sure it was the startup chime and not the "Low Battery" sound what you heard? (the 770 plays it if it gets low batt even with the shell closed).

So, does anyone know wether it is a material problem ? should I have it replaced ?

I have had my tablet for a few days now (IT2006 loaded), and twice I've noticed hearing the Nokia startup song across the room when it wasn't in use.

In both cases, the device was in "sleep" mode with the cover on (magnet turns the screen off). It wasn't in fully "off" mode.

I've just re-loaded the IT2006 OS to start fresh to see if it happens again, without any apps/hacks/mods/etc loaded.

I called the nokia support today. they asked me to upgrade to OS2006 and see wether it solves the problem. I shall do it this week if i get the time, but I don't expect this to work.
i'll tell you then.

next episod
 

Well, I just installed OS2006. I don't know yet if it'll work, but at least it's nicer and less buggy. wait and see...

IS THAT SO ???
It's been 3 days now, during which I didn't use my 770, and it haven't turned on...
So, the solution seems to be upgrading.
I shall report here any future similar incident.
have a nice day

streetpc,

Thanks for the info.

Guess I better get on with the OS2006 upgrade.