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mrgreaper 2008-04-23 02:23

how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
ok first up dont tell me to use the search, i have tried that for 3 days now both here and google to be honest i have been scared to post this as im guessing it must of been covered, but i cant find it

ok i love my n800

but when i tried to play a video i got crystal sound and a slide show

mplayer (found after searching a while) fixed that and i can play any video on my device perfectly

however there are times im laying in bed unable to sleep and i want to load up a comedy, the default media player lets me do this but im treated to a slide show

mplayer lets me browse to the file but when i select it, it does nothing

what am i missing? there must be a better way then copying the file to my card then playing

if it makes a difference the fileserver is a opensuse 10.2 fileserver using samba for the network shares no passwords required

edit***
and the n800 is running os200(i believe thats the most recent)

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-23 02:25

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/

mudhoney 2008-04-23 02:51

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
I've been mounting a directory on my linux desktop via sshfs on my n800, and playing videos from there. Works great with mplayer.

mrgreaper 2008-04-23 03:08

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
where do i get the sshfs app from? its not in my applist( i got most the repositries installed)

did look at the other link but that looks like turning my linux pc into a upnp, if i have above right i can just install sshfs ond use it to mount my linux box like a mmc that sounds perfect

taguapire 2008-04-23 03:24

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Hi,

I recommend you Mediatomb media server with VLC real time transcoding and Nokia media server browser wit UPNP.

Regards,

Taguapire.

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-23 03:35

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgreaper (Post 173445)
did look at the other link but that looks like turning my linux pc into a upnp, if i have above right i can just install sshfs ond use it to mount my linux box like a mmc that sounds perfect

The issue with any sort of network playback is that it has overhead, so it limits the size and quality of media you can play back compared to local playback.

The idea with mediautils is to set up on-demand on-the-fly transcoding with an http front-end so no matter what you want to watch, it's always tailored just for the NIT and there's no need to think about it. It's simple to set up and simple to use, and works all the time. sshfs will not work any better than samba (it may actually be worse with compression).

icebox 2008-04-23 06:09

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
I simply mount a smb share using wizard-mount or the command line and play using mplayer from command line (or use it's own file browser)

mrgreaper 2008-04-23 10:03

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
i cant figure out how to mount ? the wizard mouunt quick mounnt asks server name , resource folder username annd pass.
servername horseman or 192.168.1.8
resource folder (is this the folder on the server tto be mounted?) i tried tv (which is a shared folder), there is no user or pass needed

but it wont work


u guys also mention to do it through cmd line? i assume u mean the xterm thing but what do i type? i tried mount but that just gives me some wierd list i hate how complicated linux is, not for the first timme iim wishing nokia used a proper os (dont get me wroung linux is good iin a server but for genual use horrible)

can someone give me an example of the cmd line thhey use plz

mudhoney 2008-04-23 15:09

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgreaper (Post 173445)
where do i get the sshfs app from? its not in my applist( i got most the repositries installed)

did look at the other link but that looks like turning my linux pc into a upnp, if i have above right i can just install sshfs ond use it to mount my linux box like a mmc that sounds perfect

I was able to get sshfs working with the packages found here. They aren't in the repositories yet, probably because they aren't deemed as being stable enough, although I haven't had any problem yet. Some of those packages seem to be for developers using the SDK, also. I believe the only ones on that page that you will need to install are: fuse-utils, libfuse2, and sshfs-fuse.

You will probably have to install them with dpkg -i as root in the terminal. Also, as root, you have to load the fuse kernel module before sshfs will work. The command is "insmod /lib/modules/chinook-fuse.ko".

Then, as the normal "user", in the terminal, you mount some directory on another computer (that has sshd running) with:
sshfs username@hostname:/path/to/directory /path/to/tablet/directory

Hope that helps. Playing videos like this over the network works really well, even with larger videos. Although, with larger videos you might have to wait a few seconds when seeking forward or backwards.

thoughtfix 2008-04-23 15:53

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
I did a bit of googling on your behalf and found this thread a bit interesting. While it's not tablet-specific, it does discuss issues with Linux-to-Linux streaming: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566394

I haven't tried sshfs yet. Post your results ;)

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-23 16:09

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
I appear to be talking to thin air in this thread, so I'll post the link again, as it provides everything you need for perfect on-demand network playback of just about anything you can imagine on your tablet.

http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/

icebox 2008-04-24 06:48

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgreaper (Post 173542)
i cant figure out how to mount ? the wizard mouunt quick mounnt asks server name , resource folder username annd pass.
servername horseman or 192.168.1.8
resource folder (is this the folder on the server tto be mounted?) i tried tv (which is a shared folder), there is no user or pass needed

but it wont work


u guys also mention to do it through cmd line? i assume u mean the xterm thing but what do i type? i tried mount but that just gives me some wierd list i hate how complicated linux is, not for the first timme iim wishing nokia used a proper os (dont get me wroung linux is good iin a server but for genual use horrible)

can someone give me an example of the cmd line thhey use plz

you are correct for the server and share part, but you still need to type the user (even if the pass is empty).

hint: the user is the username you use to log in to the xp machine

Modulok 2008-04-24 12:43

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Is there a way to get fuse (sshfs) to work with OS 2007 HE on a Nokia 770? The older buids will not work anymore :(.

vman81 2008-04-24 13:02

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 173665)
I appear to be talking to thin air in this thread, so I'll post the link again, as it provides everything you need for perfect on-demand network playback of just about anything you can imagine on your tablet.

http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/

If it's a NAS box, or an underpowered machine, reencoding isn't an option, i've tried it, and it gets really annoying if it barely works.

I just tried the mount wizard, and it's working a lot better than i hoped, thank you guys for the tip.

Benson 2008-04-24 22:54

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
For an underpowered machine to be doing worse than the N800 is pretty impressive, I'd think.

vman81 2008-04-25 09:24

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 174336)
For an underpowered machine to be doing worse than the N800 is pretty impressive, I'd think.

Now I haven't looked into those tools, and assumed it's some kind of transcoding solution, like tversity/orb etc, and that requires alot more cpu power than simple decoding. The NAS is also a situation when mounting and playing directly is a good option.


Again, I'm not an expert in any of this, just my 2c :)

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-25 16:50

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vman81 (Post 174054)
If it's a NAS box, or an underpowered machine, reencoding isn't an option, i've tried it, and it gets really annoying if it barely works.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but OpenSUSE isn't typically deployed to NAS boxes, no?

Benson 2008-04-25 17:11

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vman81 (Post 174491)
Now I haven't looked into those tools, and assumed it's some kind of transcoding solution, like tversity/orb etc, and that requires alot more cpu power than simple decoding. The NAS is also a situation when mounting and playing directly is a good option.

Sometimes, for some codecs (I'm not at all sure what ones, so I know this probably doesn't apply here), you can reduce the bitrate without DCT/IDCT, so actually potentially less work than decoding.

But I'd expect around 3x power required; that's about 1.2 GHz ARM (should you have such a beast), but all recent x86 machines have extensive facilities for it, so I'd think that anything above 1 GHz-ish would do it.
Quote:

Again, I'm not an expert in any of this, just my 2c :)
I'm no expert either; I haven't even tried it on any machine; I was just kinda curious what hardware it was that was doing worse for general use than playing from a network FS.

Jaffa 2008-04-25 19:33

Re: how to play videos over a network on the n800?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vman81 (Post 174491)
Now I haven't looked into those tools, and assumed it's some kind of transcoding solution, like tversity/orb etc, and that requires alot more cpu power than simple decoding.

The initial development of mediaserv was done on a 700MHz VIA C3 box transcoding DVD rips to watchable quality with CPU to spare.

Quote:

The NAS is also a situation when mounting and playing directly is a good option.
This is really only an option, though, if the video is in a format which can be played back on a current tablet. Most of mine, at least, can't - especially if they're MPEG2-TS dumps from a DVB-T (Freeview) card.


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