Maemo IdeaStorm
 

Well, I can't believe I can't find this on the forums that no one has brought this idea up, yet.

Dell and Ubuntu (Starbucks too?) now have their own implementations of an amazingly easy. user-friendly, and highly efficient feedback and wish-list system.

Now, I can't imagine replacing Bugzilla with this, because you really can't. But, instead of people posting about hardware and software they want (not that has a bug or problem) at iTT on or Bugzilla, why not have this for end users?

I think it'd be a great idea :D

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Hear hear! The idea gets my vote!

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Yes, a just cannot think of a pre-built software that could run this... So I or some other web developer would have to rig it from scratch X_X Unless someone has connections with the Ubuntu web staff... We could get their code ;)

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The idea was well received in maemo: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/m...il/000258.html

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You can use Ubuntus Brainstorm for your own projects it seems. But "we are working on making Brainstorm project-neutral" indicates that it would take some customizing right now.

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Now that I'm thinking of it. A big company like Nokia could easily develop a 'brainstorm' like site if they wanted to. Why would ideas collected on an independent site have any chance to be implemented if Nokia didn't see a need to set one up by themselves in the first place? I think you need cooperation of Nokia to have any effect.

And I did bring it up once here. For some the 'enhancement request' of Maemo Bugzilla is good enough.
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I think it would also be quite something if there was a small application on the tablet that allowed you to submit ideas to the (maemo?)storm.

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This would be super!

I was just contemplating if I could put this together myself, now that you mention it. The key is that I'd want all sorts of projects to be in there, not just core maemo. One site to collect every idea/suggestion someone might have. ONE LOGIN is important. It would be ideal if this was the ITT login, too... that would be out of my hands.

I love how dead simple it is to enter stuff - with a link to a forum thread where the details are fleshed out.

Clearly bugzilla enhancements are NOWHERE NEAR what this could be.

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Please don't. We don't need community fragmentation, and Quim has already gotten behind the idea so we can be pretty sure it'll happen if it can.

Just adding this on to Garage would nicely solve the login and multiple-project issues (though I've never understood why some people have such huge hissy fits over having to login to more than one place . . . that's why password managers and cookies were invented :/)

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Somebody really has to just DO it. I won't complain if it's not me. I wouldn't even complain if I started and then got obsoleted. Garage would be OK, but they need to make it clear that you don't have to be a developer to sign up. Right now, I'm sure very few end users are signed up there.

The multiple registrations are an issue. When you have a handful of computers that get reinstalled once or twice a year, and about a dozen active forums, plus 3 or 4 emails, plus bank accounts, plus paypal, plus computer/network passwords... it gets to be too much. Password managers don't help. When a forum demands that you register even to *read* the forum, it becomes WAY too much.

And really, how do you know that the moderator and/or hackers won't take your username/password combo and try it on another site? If you suspect it, you make yet another name/password combo. I have too much on my mind right now to maintain another password in my short term memory, and I don't think I'm alone.

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Right, and that somebody is maemo, and they are doing it, so getting some random person on the internet to do it would be counter-productive.

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Welcome to the open source world! Get coding! All right, stop that right now, we have people much smarter than you to do it!

Here, go play with some of this unfinished software you're not allowed to complain about.

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:rolleyes:

Get a grip. The point is that a centralized, officially supported maemo IdeaStorm will be a lot more effective at getting both community and official traffic and attention and official action from people who can actually act of the community's ideas than some random dude-on-the-internet's IdeaStorm. :) It'd be a lot like opening up a community bugzilla for filing maemo bugs. :/

Besides, there's no sense in duplicating effort on a community solution when something official is likely coming.

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I love the way you put down everyone, BTW.

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This should really be done on maemo.org imho.

We should see things moving on the maemo.org leadership front pretty soon (see the dev list from today for example) and there's a lot of discussion and organisation going on on the maemo wiki to try to work out what the community (which will be under the maemo.org banner) should try to offer the users. Centralisation really is a key thing here imo.

Just my opinion of course :)

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... and not much progress has been done since the last post.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_brainstorm

If we want to do this, a good timing is before the Fremantle final release so we know we have something solid in place when a new chapter of Maemo begins and a new generation of users and community members join.

To make it easy, we could go for http://www.ideatorrent.org/ (I personally don't think that developing on top of bugzilla or garage would be any easier/better). User & karma integration would be something secondary, in my opinion. If we can have it, good. If not, still it makes sense to go for it.

Re: Maemo IdeaStorm
 

In this theme, Oskari Kokko has requested ideas and comments on his plan for IdeaTorrent on adding IdeaTorrent-like features to Midgard for maemo.org. His goal is to have a beta site set up next week.

Current ideas are in the wiki, revisions may be made there, and discussion may be started in the talk page.

There's been much interest expressed in making maemo.org more friendly to end users and giving those same end users a better method of providing product feedback and direction to Nokia. This is a chance to help shape a new tool that is a significant piece in work toward those goals.

Bugzilla is functional, but its interface is a cruel barrier to place before an end user with an idea for product improvement. IdeaTorrent should be the welcoming new location for end user product feedback and ideas, but greater community involvement in its setup should help to avoid by-developers, for-developers pitfalls.

Examples of existing sites using similar and the same software are in the wiki.

EDIT: I've adjusted the text above to reflect the plan to customize Midgard rather than use IdeaTorrent. Debate on the merits of that idea continues on the mailing list.