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penguinbait 2008-05-17 18:46

[KDE] KDE: What needs fixing?
 
I am going to fix the xmodmap, so that if you wan it you can run a install script that will come with KDE and a script to remove it. This will be run from xterm.

This will fix the unlock on the n800, and problems with people who are not in USA.

Keyboard issues for onscreen keyboard. I use my 810 so I do not have this problem. I want to fix this for n800 users. Please file all suggestions or info in this thread.

I would also like to include the bluetooth mouse support.

Other than that, I am not sure what else people think needs fixing?

I know PCQ had the jpg support on the desktop, but this requires a recomile of everything, so this is beyond this revision. I am only altering a few things, like shortcuts and things to make fresh install more appealing.

I really need you feedback so lets try to keep this to the discussion at hand. Especially on the n800 issues, if you want them fixed...



For those that have not seen, there is a new thread from me.

Boot from SD Installer for KDEv2
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19675
This Deb is used to install KDE if you are running off "Boot from SD"


Check my signature for info on how to setup Boot from SD

Qwerty, thats 500, you cannot make a signature with more characters, only bigger fonts :cool:

PinCushionQueen 2008-05-17 20:36

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
I think I posted this in another thread but didn't get any answers... but I would love a script or something that would make WiFi automatically connect when Konqueror (web profile) is started.

There is also a bug where the notification of a repeating event alarm in KOrganizer causes the auto-screen dimming feature to quit working until you've rebooted. For example, I have an repeat alarm set to remind my husband to take the trash to the curb once a week. Every week after the alarm goes off, my screen stay bright if I lock the screen/buttons. I have to logout and reboot to get it working again. This is only for repeat alarms - single notifications work just fine.

Any idea if Usb host support already works or not?

That all I can think of for now.
thanks :D

b-man 2008-05-17 21:21

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Here are some bugs i've noticed in KDE

The trash ben doesn't work. :(

The on screen keyboard doesn't show eny numbers or symbols. especially "/" and "\" and sometimes the keyboard mixes up upper-case and lower-case. :confused:

Even thought the login and the logout function is fonctional, you can't login on a N800 without a hardware keyboard. :(

The sccreensavers don't work. :(
Some windows are so large, that thay get cut off and you can't see the whole window and it is difficult to resize.

The plugins in koncore are not present.:confused:

The hildon desktop is very unresponsive after you exit KDE. :(

Those are the bugs i have discovered so far. I will post more bug reports when i get the chance. :)
(Edit) seems someone has beet me to be the first to respond. :p

penguinbait 2008-05-17 21:35

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b-man (Post 182749)
Here are some bugs i've noticed in KDE

The trash ben doesn't work. :(
Fixed in v2

The on screen keyboard doesn't show eny numbers or symbols. especially "/" and "\" and sometimes the keyboard mixes up upper-case and lower-case. :confused:
This is legimate problem, working on resolution


Even thought the login and the logout function is fonctional, you can't login on a N800 without a hardware keyboard. :(
There is no login prompt? unless you lock it?

The sccreensavers don't work. :(
The screen savers work, but X does not tell them to turn on, I cannot fix

Some windows are so large, that thay get cut off and you can't see the whole window and it is difficult to resize.
Use the move window, This again I cannot fix


The plugins in koncore are not present.:confused:
what plugins, I dont have any to be present?:confused:

The hildon desktop is very unresponsive after you exit KDE. :(
Seriously, its not!!, but if it were, who cares really?

Those are the bugs i have discovered so far. I will post more bug reports when i get the chance. :)
(Edit) seems someone has beet me to be the first to respond. :p

This is intended for fixes on top of V2, perhaps I should have stated this..

penguinbait 2008-05-17 21:39

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 182738)
I think I posted this in another thread but didn't get any answers... but I would love a script or something that would make WiFi automatically connect when Konqueror (web profile) is started.
Note sure how to accomplish this? I also would like Konq to see the proxy setting when you use them on a connection. You have to manually set them and turn off when not using them. :(

There is also a bug where the notification of a repeating event alarm in KOrganizer causes the auto-screen dimming feature to quit working until you've rebooted. For example, I have an repeat alarm set to remind my husband to take the trash to the curb once a week. Every week after the alarm goes off, my screen stay bright if I lock the screen/buttons. I have to logout and reboot to get it working again. This is only for repeat alarms - single notifications work just fine.
First I have heard, but I dont use alarms, I will play around see if I can recfreate. No clue how to fix it though?

Any idea if Usb host support already works or not?
Its already working in V2, there is a usb icon on taskbar? It toggle USB host mode

That all I can think of for now.
thanks :D

Thank you for all of you for your support!!!

b-man 2008-05-17 22:12

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Oh well, i guess i will have to re-clone my os again and install KDE again (wich takes 2-3 and a half hours for me :( )

But after words, i will be posting more accurate bug reports. :D

p.s. If i am running KDE version1, whi do i have a usb host icon in my task bar?

2timer 2008-05-18 02:04

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
I noticed konqueror is much slower loading sites than microb. Maybe make it load equal or faster than the hildon browser, If you can add flash support as well. Everything else looks good.

bhang 2008-05-18 04:05

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2timer (Post 182813)
I noticed konqueror is much slower loading sites than microb. Maybe make it load equal or faster than the hildon browser, If you can add flash support as well. Everything else looks good.

when you get that fixed, I think world peace would be good for the planet and maybe you could end hunger in the third world, if you get a chance...

sorry, I just couldn't help myself :cool:


bhang

josiahg777 2008-05-18 04:36

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
krandr fix and screen rotation support maybe? Please? :)

qwerty12 2008-05-18 06:07

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 182713)
Qwerty, thats 500, you cannot make a signature with more characters, only bigger fonts :cool:

Hehe, I decided to cut down :)

I'll include a plug and how about some conky action? It works in KDE great.

I agree with josiahg777. We have modified kernel (i'm running fanoush's atm), modified x-server, libxrandr and xrandr available.

Rotation is done by the LCD controller, it does it directly via kernel afaik:
http://sse2.net/rotate/Updated_blizz...upport_v2.diff

Also, the source of the rotation applet:
http://sse2.net/rotate/rotate-sb-plugin-0.1.tar.bz2

PinCushionQueen 2008-05-18 13:49

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Hey PB, I should have also said that the "Auto-dimming issue" is not restricted to just KDE alarms - I just see it with the most consistency there. I've also had the same thing happen when using mPlayer and have read that some others here at itT have too. Only with mPlayer it's intermittent and I can't find the pattern :( Sorry I didn't report this earlier - it took me a while to figure out the pattern.

Could you please point me in the right direction to find the command for USB host mode? I probably used to have it in my taskbar but it's gone now - to make matters worse a few months ago I had a crash and lost most of the "extra" apps you added to Kmenu. I've been able to rebuild most of those shortcuts as the need has arisen but can't find the command for USB host. Thanks!!

Also, I would like to second the recommendation for Q's Conky - he's right it does work great - I've got it set up to toggle on/off using Ctrl+G. I use it now to replace System Guard because Conky uses less system resources and still give me the information I need (eg: WTF is hogging all my CPU and/or Memory?)

josiahg777 2008-05-18 16:01

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
@PinCushionQueen - Do you possibly mean:

echo host>/sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode

? Or did I horribly misunderstand? :P

PinCushionQueen 2008-05-18 18:27

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by josiahg777 (Post 182988)
@PinCushionQueen - Do you possibly mean:

echo host>/sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode

? Or did I horribly misunderstand? :P

thanks that might be what I need - I should be getting my mouse soon to find out.

I also just realized that the mouse I ordered is Bluetooth - I know that there is a usbMouse deb out there somewhere with BT support but I can't find it. Does anybody have a copy they could send me? :)

Or I suppose I could wait and hope that the Mighty PenquinBait adds it to the KDE package. I think I read in another thread that you got BT mouse working in KDE - is that correct?:cool:

penguinbait 2008-05-19 20:32

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 183049)
thanks that might be what I need - I should be getting my mouse soon to find out.

I also just realized that the mouse I ordered is Bluetooth - I know that there is a usbMouse deb out there somewhere with BT support but I can't find it. Does anybody have a copy they could send me? :)

Or I suppose I could wait and hope that the Mighty PenquinBait adds it to the KDE package. I think I read in another thread that you got BT mouse working in KDE - is that correct?:cool:

yes its working great,

http://www.electronicproductonline.c....1.1_armel.deb

I do a
hcitool scan
hidd --connect 12:12:12:12:12:12


http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...2&postcount=69

penguinbait 2008-05-19 21:17

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by josiahg777 (Post 182988)
@PinCushionQueen - Do you possibly mean:

echo host>/sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode

? Or did I horribly misunderstand? :P

There is actually a script included to toggle OTG / Host mode
If host is on, then it turns on OTG and vice versa, it uses kdialog to tell you...

usb-toggle.sh

penguinbait 2008-05-19 23:48

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
V3 should be out later today :)

Updates:

#1
removes xmodmap from Autostart
from xterm run xmodon to place back in AutoStart and then restart KDE to take effect
from xterm run xmodoff to remove the xmodmap setting from AutoStart and restart 800/810

#2
Include battery-status
You still need to install python

#3
Include flite executable
Also configure kopete and konqueror to use kttsmgr by default

#4
Include USB mouse package with BT support

#5
Create bluetooth mouse script for connecting mouse (pretty cool)
Icon replaces Maemo-Mapper on taskbar. Maemo-Mapper Icon moved to Desktop

#6
Include color-ls (because I wanted to)

#7
removed old files in /usr/local/kde/share/wallpapers

#8
Added keyboard shortcut for switching between apps
(CTRL + FN)

#9
added theme (Zelda)


And I think this concludes the v3 updates

setasai 2008-06-19 07:57

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Is the Chr (characters) button supposed to do nothing in kde v3.5.8? Cant even map it as a modifier/shortcut

PinCushionQueen 2008-06-19 14:34

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by setasai (Post 193412)
Is the Chr (characters) button supposed to do nothing in kde v3.5.8? Cant even map it as a modifier/shortcut

I've have mapped the Chr button to act as "Tab" using xmodmap. I have then mapped some shortcuts to include Tab.

I think PB has mapped to do something in the xmodmap file that is included in the KDE install - but I can't remember what it is :confused:

Otherwise - it is useless in KDE because the Hildon keyboard doesn't work in KDE.

setasai 2008-06-19 18:37

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
So if I want to use it I should run xmodon in xterm? Would xmodmap conflict w/ KDE's built in shortcuts manager?

penguinbait 2008-06-21 02:53

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by setasai (Post 193602)
So if I want to use it I should run xmodon in xterm? Would xmodmap conflict w/ KDE's built in shortcuts manager?

This is from the install page for kde v3 installer

These shortcuts will not interfere with KDE???

If xmodon has been run in xterm, and KDE has been restarted
Then you will have the following shortcuts
(Fn + >) TAB Key
(Fn + <) | (PIPE KEY)

Note this is based on USA keyboard layout, if you are using some other language, you would need to make your own xmodmap file. Running xmodon will give you some info on how to do that.

bunanson 2008-06-23 13:17

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Maps upon zoom in and out, the screen works 'funny' in a full screen mode, it continues to work in a 80% screen rather than a full screen. It does NOT bother me that much, just reporting.

Kmenu>Settings>Desktop setting wizard>steps 1, 2 goes fine, on step 3 screen, the shortcut for window moving is NOT working. And when I set to less effect for slow processor, far left, the KDE crashed. Is this a political statement, far left is NOT acceptable ;)? And when I return, I lost the zelda theme...........
Is it possible to cut down some eye candy to make kde go faster, or it has to be right at 50, like godilock, not 2 fast not 2 sloo, just right.

How can I get Zelda back? I am now using the kde classic, the one with the throbbing red light, I tried to get rid of it by changing the mouse theme, Kcontrol center crashed, and the throbbing red dot persisted..........

Time to go to work :(

bun






bun

penguinbait 2008-06-23 14:18

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 194550)
Maps upon zoom in and out, the screen works 'funny' in a full screen mode, it continues to work in a 80% screen rather than a full screen. It does NOT bother me that much, just reporting.
I use Maemo Mapper and I am not sure what you are talking about? Do you mean the built in mapping program?


Kmenu>Settings>Desktop setting wizard>steps 1, 2 goes fine, on step 3 screen, the shortcut for window moving is NOT working. And when I set to less effect for slow processor, far left, the KDE crashed. Is this a political statement, far left is NOT acceptable ;)? LEFT OK WITH ME And when I return, I lost the zelda theme...........
Is it possible to cut down some eye candy to make kde go faster, or it has to be right at 50, like godilock, not 2 fast not 2 sloo, just right.
When I created my theme, I used the slide bar all the way to the LEFT. I then changed individual settings to create the theme it installed with. I saved the theme, so just look through the themes list, I do not recall what I named it at the moment

How can I get Zelda back? I am now using the kde classic, the one with the throbbing red light, I tried to get rid of it by changing the mouse theme, Kcontrol center crashed, and the throbbing red dot persisted..........

Time to go to work :(

bun






bun


Bun, sometimes, I think you need to set the Red Bull down. I imagine Bun talking 90miles per hour sometimes :)

bunanson 2008-06-23 16:32

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Yes, I mean the built-in map, not maemo mapper.
I saw PB in the theme thing, I guess that must be the Zelda. I will give it a try.

Thanks PB. I start to use KDE more and more, very soon, you goin to see PineCushionbun :)

bun

CpuFixrMan 2008-08-16 02:35

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Some windows are so large, that thay get cut off and you can't see the whole window and it is difficult to resize.
Use the move window, This again I cannot fix
I've tried this, and had no success. It seems darn near impossible with the stylus and I've never been able to make the top of the window move beyond the upper boundary of the screen. This is inconvenient, and has prevented me from being able to select an OK button, so is definitely frustrating. You say this is not something you can fix... are default minimum window sizes hard coded in KDE?

Finding that the Home button activates and deactivates the right click has made some other things easier too.

Over all, still impressive.

many thanks.

PinCushionQueen 2008-08-16 16:39

Re: KDE: What needs fixing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CpuFixrMan (Post 214282)
I've tried this, and had no success. It seems darn near impossible with the stylus and I've never been able to make the top of the window move beyond the upper boundary of the screen. This is inconvenient, and has prevented me from being able to select an OK button, so is definitely frustrating. You say this is not something you can fix... are default minimum window sizes hard coded in KDE?

Finding that the Home button activates and deactivates the right click has made some other things easier too.

Over all, still impressive.

many thanks.

This is a quote from one of my previous posts :D


While there is no way to permanently change the configuration dialogues & forcing the windows to resize only ends up cutting off the most important part of the window (ie: OK Apply Cancel) - you can assign a button to "Move Window" command, which will at least allow you to move the window up so that you can get to the bottom part of the screen.

To assign "Move Window" -> Open Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> scroll down until you find Move Window -> select it -> make a custom shortcut.

Now if you've got an N810 then you have a ton of possibilities on which button or combination of buttons you assign to the action. If you've got a N800 then your choices are much more limited. You might search the forums to see if any N800 users posted successful button assignments if you need help there.

I personally have my N810 "Home" button assigned to "Move Windwow" because I use it so frequently (for Kalendar entries) and then I have Ctrl + "Home" assigned to "Right Click".


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