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maillaxa 2008-05-23 22:00

Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Hi,

Do you think it is possible to install a brand new slackware 12.1 onto the N810 ? I am lost and feels naked without it :)

So what ? Possible ? Crazy ?

Regards

Benson 2008-05-23 22:02

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Not readily; you'd have to recompile everything, unless there's an ARM port of slackware I'm unaware of.

maillaxa 2008-05-23 22:59

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Cool, so there is a hope !

Benson 2008-05-23 23:03

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
No, there's not a hope, practically speaking.

kotzkind 2008-05-24 13:33

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
http://www.armedslack.org/

Have fun at getting it run on N800.
(It's still very much work. And because there's already Debian, nobody will do it. Install Debian and configure it. There isn't sooo much difference between normal Linux distros)

maillaxa 2008-05-24 13:49

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
I am pretty sure you never have touched a slackware distro then. There are so many differences, you can't imagine how different it is to use a vanilla slackware distro compared to a poor-quality distro such as Debian.

debernardis 2008-05-24 14:04

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maillaxa (Post 185446)
I am pretty sure you never have touched a slackware distro then. There are so many differences, you can't imagine how different it is to use a vanilla slackware distro compared to a poor-quality distro such as Debian.

I am truly curious, can you explain? I have no experience of slackware.

kotzkind 2008-05-24 14:15

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maillaxa (Post 185446)
I am pretty sure you never have touched a slackware distro then. There are so many differences, you can't imagine how different it is to use a vanilla slackware distro compared to a poor-quality distro such as Debian.

What I can imagine: Different initscripts. Different package building. Some different configuration (and here you don't have to do much with Debian, because everything hardwarespecific should be configured, as the image is extra for the n800), etc...

That are all differences that shouldn't affect you great, while you use your tablet.

Also I don't see why Debian should be poor quality.

coffeedrinker 2008-05-24 22:14

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Slackware is the only linux distro I like(d) after coming from freebsd (new laptop (then) wouldn't run it).

Slackware makes so much sense and is so easy, at least to my mind. Still my favorite of all I've tried. Prefer it so much to debian.

I wish it was the dist running on the n800 but it isn't...

geneven 2008-05-24 22:26

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
I've run Slackware and much prefer Debian because of its broader selection of software. I'm running Sidux now and it's also very fast.

slha89 2008-05-24 22:48

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
1+++
for Slackware on N8x0! Then, N8x0 becomes a really Hacker device. It's sooo much easier to compile and build Slackware packages to every other DPKG/RPM distro.
But it's nearly impossible as there isn't the whole source available to recompile it the Slackware way.

mudhoney 2008-05-24 23:17

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maillaxa (Post 185446)
I am pretty sure you never have touched a slackware distro then. There are so many differences, you can't imagine how different it is to use a vanilla slackware distro compared to a poor-quality distro such as Debian.

I've used slackware for many years before I started using debian, which I've only used for about a year now. I'm not sure where you get the idea that debian is "poor-quality". It's cool to see another slackware fan though. :)

It's good to remember that all the extra work you need to go through to make good debian packages is exactly the reason why it's available for so many architectures and devices.

ldrn 2008-05-24 23:19

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 185449)
I am truly curious, can you explain? I have no experience of slackware.

Slackware is more like *BSD than any other Linux distro; it modifies some things to be more BSD-like, but aside from that, tries to keep configuration exactly how the software creator intended. Debian, in contrast, tries to make everything fit together in the debian way -- it's laid out very differently from a linux from scratch system, while I think slackware is similar. It's been a long time since I used Slackware, though!

The other big difference between slackware and debian/fedora and so on is dependency checking; slackware does not do it. Basically, it's much easier to ruin your entire system by installing the wrong thing.

The "quality" comment is either pathetic trolling or a deserved snipe over the recent openSSL fiasco. ;)

maillaxa 2008-05-25 08:05

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ldrn (Post 185604)
The "quality" comment is either pathetic trolling or a deserved snipe over the recent openSSL fiasco. ;)

Both :)
In fact, I do not like the way Debian team is patching all software, I do not like the dependence checking (that leads to installing 1Gb of dependencies to just have a small text editor).

I love the KISS developped in slackware: all is pretty simple and follow as close as possible the upstream development.

sjgadsby 2008-05-25 11:32

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 185593)
I've run Slackware and much prefer Debian because of its broader selection of software.

How's that? With Slackware, you can download, compile, and install whatever you like. I've never found any limitations.

Johnx 2008-05-25 14:12

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
There's really nothing stopping someone from getting Slackware working on the tablet as well as Debian works. You just need two things:
1) A Slackware rootfs compiled for ARM w/ EABI, little endian
2) and a quick look at how I hacked Debian into place the first time for some ideas: http://www.internettablettalk.com/wi...tle=Debian-old

The reason I chose Debian was because of the number of packages already compiled for ARMEL and the fact that I personally like apt.
If anyone does get it working I'd love to hear about it. :)

-John

BOFH 2008-05-30 12:01

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
I'd 2nd Slax been ported to the N8x0, would look to easily port BackTrack on to the N8x0 ;)

I'm currently working with ~5 different Linux distro's {CentOS/Unbreakable Linux/RHEL, Debian, and Slax} and would prefer to limit the number down until I master at least one of them.

slha89 2008-05-30 12:22

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Quote:

I've run Slackware and much prefer Debian because of its broader selection of software. I'm running Sidux now and it's also very fast.
I've run Debian and much prefer Slackware because of its few selection of software, where I know every package by it's given name and what it does.
I don't like to have every feature set/package installed and lost the overview, because of typing 'apt-get install packagename' and forget to be accurate.
In Slackware I must be accurate or nothing works. But after that learning phase I know what I do.

Edit: I think OpenMoko will be better suited for Slackware, because the system is completely open. You can (re)compile every distribution (if you can).

deadmalc 2008-05-30 20:07

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
***cough***
Can I just say all linux distros are linux, it's the whole point of linux.
Use what you like, and if you don't then build your own custom distro, which are great for embedded devices!
I personally like Fedora, but am just as happy with debian,sles,redhat or anything else...as long as you don't make me use emacs ;-)

maillaxa 2008-06-02 05:44

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
emacs is also a very good OS ;)

sjgadsby 2008-06-02 12:43

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maillaxa (Post 187868)
emacs is also a very good OS ;)

Completing the joke:

If only there were a good editor for it.

maillaxa 2008-06-02 20:49

Re: Slackware on the N810 ?
 
lol :)

Although I am jokking, I must admit that emacs is my prefered app (ever).


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