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bradless 2008-05-28 15:12

txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
is it possible to text message to peoples cell phones with the nokia n800?

rittf800 2008-05-28 15:17

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
yes. phonelink.

fredoll 2008-05-28 15:47

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
via your bluetooth phone ;)

joepagiii 2008-05-28 15:56

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
or go to the website ie verizon.com and send a text thru there

dlhuss 2008-05-28 16:00

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
just google. there are tons of web-based sms sites.

in germany i've used gmx.net (an email provider) - but my mobile contract is so cheap i don't use it any more.

You can use skype too, but I'm not sure if the client on the N800 has that built-in (don't have my N800 with)

joepagiii 2008-05-28 16:31

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
http://www.google.com/sendtophone also you can send thru pigdin using the aol im client...

bradless 2008-05-28 17:52

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
thank you so much, the inly one that doesnt realky work is phonelink because i dont have a cell phone :P

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-28 17:55

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Gizmo5!

joepagiii 2008-05-28 17:56

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 186656)

huh hant tried that yet...thanks ga...:)

johnkzin 2008-05-28 22:15

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joepagiii (Post 186619)
you can send thru pigdin using the aol im client...

I've noticed that this doesn't work with all providers, though.

to those who want more info:

If you add an AIM buddy whose name is "+XXXYYYZZZZ" (for the US, i don't know if you can use country codes), then you can send IM's to that buddy, and it ends up being an SMS message to that phone (XXX = area code, YYYZZZZ = local part of the phone number). You can do that from Pidgin, Adium X, and AOL's own client (and probably other AIM compatible clients).

However, the reply address that the phone user gets is temporary, so they typically can't initiate the conversation ... they can reply to you, though. So, it's not a true two-way implementation (unfortunately).

I know it works for T-mobile and Verizon phones.
I know it does NOT work with MetroPCS phones.

klogdog 2008-12-18 10:09

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
using googletalk (the embedded messenger for n800) you can add phonenumbers as contacts and get true two way communication. The process is simple but I think it only works in usa for now. Add/edit a contact and add field select googletalk bubble. Type in +1xxxyyyyyyy@sms.talk.google.com (replace x and y w/ area code and phonenumber) and your done. Start the chat and it will say 'contact unauthorized' ignore this and text away. Be careful if your friends don't have a plan itt will cost them each time you press enter. Enjoy!

p.s.

don't forget to tell your friends who you are they may not recgonize your email address!

johnkzin 2008-12-18 14:41

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
You can do that with AIM as well. Just create a buddy whose sn is +1xxxyyyzzzz

The problem is: what they receive is a SMS from a temporary number. They can't always just send to that number out of the blue. So, most of the time, they can't initiate the conversation.

So, IMO, it works, but it isn't really a full solution for SMS/MMS.

What would be nice is if Skype's SMS service worked with their "Skype-IN" number, so that the phone number they assign you could also receive SMS/MMS messages, and queue them up for you to receive when you connect to Skype. This wouldn't be free and universal, but it would at least allow you to use any Skype device as a full voice/SMS/MMS solution.

munky261 2008-12-19 10:45

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
for whoever you want to text or send an mms to set this in the contacts email address according to what phone company they are using , this is the easiest way and they can reply as well.

VERIZON:

XXXXXXXXXX@vtext.com
XXXXXXXXXX@vzwpix.com


ATT:
xxxxxxxxxx@txt.att.net
xxxxxxxxxx@mms.att.net


TMOBILE:
xxxxxxxxxx@tmomail.net (cant send picture messages)

klogdog 2008-12-21 04:22

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
ok so I guess I was misunderstood. You CAN have a friend initiate a conversation when using the googletalk method. Example: Your friend wants to text you about a party. They enter the message and send it. It pops up on your n800!

arashed31 2008-12-21 04:45

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
I use Pidgin + AIM. I use it to text my friends all the time. When a person recieves a text from me it looks like this:
"<user name>: (using AOL IM) <actual message>"

To the recipient they just see a six digit number. I can only recieve messages if someone is replying to one that I've sent. I am almost sure that a person can initiate the conversation, but sometimes i will not recieve the message. Also if someone sends a message and I'm not online they will recieve an automated reply saying so.

allnameswereout 2008-12-21 05:51

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 250829)
for whoever you want to text or send an mms to set this in the contacts email address according to what phone company they are using , this is the easiest way and they can reply as well.

VERIZON:

XXXXXXXXXX@vtext.com
XXXXXXXXXX@vzwpix.com


ATT:
xxxxxxxxxx@txt.att.net
xxxxxxxxxx@mms.att.net


TMOBILE:
xxxxxxxxxx@tmomail.net (cant send picture messages)

This is for USA.

People get a personal e-mail address at their provider here. This is forwarded to SMS. It is in a standard format @provider.ccTLD (e.g. nl or co.uk) with the phone number in it before the @ (not with +, just the regular number which works nation-wide).

Also, there are some free SMS providers on the Internet (existed even end 90s where they were driven by advertising). Some programs were frontends which use(d) these websites, partly evading some advertising on the website. But the SMS also contain advertisments.

My provider also allows a few free SMS a day to be send from the personal homepage, and besides that also some standard texts (e.g. "where are you?").

All in all, there isn't a perfect solution, and setting up a SMS gateway isn't cheap. But if you think of it, and think of IMs as very cheap (and more advanced) then SMS is overpriced. Yet, feature-wise it does what it has to.

munky261 2008-12-21 07:52

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Im still just not understanding the googletalk method. Say i open up the chat client , what do i type in to text someone and they can reply back. Im in the us by the way if it matters.

dkwatts 2008-12-21 12:14

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
ADD 100% free unlimited incoming + outgoing sms/text messaging to your tablet:

1. In Control Panel, open Accounts
2. Click New/Edit to create a Google Talk account with your google account credentials
3. In View Contacts, add/edit a contact
4. In field field "google talk", type
+1xxxyyyyyyy@sms.talk.google.com
(replace x and y w/ area code and phonenumber)
5. Select contact & start the chat (or start chat & select the contact)
6. Ignore the message "Contact is unauthorized. Unable to guarantee that messages will be delivered."

Text away. Each time you press enter, normal texting rates apply for your contacts.

From your mobile phone, txt my N800 @ 406.205.0523
(it's 100% free unlimited for me from google)

Enjoy!

johnkzin 2008-12-21 14:05

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by klogdog (Post 251345)
ok so I guess I was misunderstood. You CAN have a friend initiate a conversation when using the googletalk method. Example: Your friend wants to text you about a party. They enter the message and send it. It pops up on your n800!

ok... what do they send to?

assumptions:
  • you have never sent them a message this way, so they can't use any sort of reply functionality
  • their sms service only allows them to send actual sms (ie. to a number, not anything that looks like an email address, etc) (metropcs does this if you don't enable your phone for email, for example)
  • your gmail is example@gmail.com
  • your phone# is +12345678900

so, to what do they address their sms message to ensure that it gets to you in google talk?

allnameswereout 2008-12-21 15:52

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 251424)
ADD 100% free unlimited incoming + outgoing sms/text messaging to your tablet:

1. In Control Panel, open Accounts
2. Click New/Edit to create a Google Talk account with your google account credentials
3. In View Contacts, add/edit a contact
4. In field field "google talk", type
+1xxxyyyyyyy@sms.talk.google.com
(replace x and y w/ area code and phonenumber)
5. Select contact & start the chat (or start chat & select the contact)
6. Ignore the message "Contact is unauthorized. Unable to guarantee that messages will be delivered."

Text away. Each time you press enter, normal texting rates apply for your contacts.

From your mobile phone, txt my N800 @ 406.205.0523
(it's 100% free unlimited for me from google)

Enjoy!

???

For which countries does this work ....

Frank Banul 2008-12-21 16:03

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 251454)
???

For which countries does this work ....

US cell phones only right now. Obviously the tablet location is not restricted.

Frank

johnkzin 2008-12-21 16:44

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 251424)
ADD 100% free unlimited incoming + outgoing sms/text messaging to your tablet:

Seeing as how my tablet doesn't have a GSM nor CDMA radio in it, I don't see how I'd do this...

klogdog 2008-12-22 06:02

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
get an n800 wimax edition? :) Don't worry about the what ifs john. dkwatts thanks for the easy to follow summary. oh and I have had sucess w/ the following carriers.

at&t

sprint

verizon

johnkzin 2008-12-22 14:25

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by klogdog (Post 251646)
get an n800 wimax edition? :)

Maybe when they actually make one :-)

quipper8 2008-12-22 15:54

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 251424)

From your mobile phone, txt my N800 @ 406.205.0523
(it's 100% free unlimited for me from google)

Enjoy!

From my experience with this service, you will not be able to just tell someone that number and they will be able to send sms to you, you have to initiate with them first by sending them an sms from your gtalk.

Since you have never sent me a gtalk sms message to my phone number, if I tried to sms you from my phone I would get a reply that there is no account at that number.

I also do not think there is any guarantee that that will always be YOUR sms number and that it may change at some point and/or be different between you and different parties, but not quite sure about that yet.

All that said, I find this service better than the AIM sms service I had been using.

johnkzin 2008-12-22 16:43

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 251734)
From my experience with this service, you will not be able to just tell someone that number and they will be able to send sms to you, you have to initiate with them first by sending them an sms from your gtalk.


Which, if true, makes it no better than what AIM does.

quipper8 2008-12-22 18:48

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 251750)
Which, if true, makes it no better than what AIM does.

It is better in the sense that once you have established contact with someone, they can continue to use the same number.

Also, in that same established sense when someone sends sms to you and you are offline, it will be queued for you once you are online.

I think it is better than AIM in those two regards.

Also, the cruft that gets sent to your recipients is a few less characters with gtalk than what AIM sends

johnkzin 2008-12-22 19:33

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 251788)
It is better in the sense that once you have established contact with someone, they can continue to use the same number.

Are you sure about that? From what quipper8 said above, it doesn't sound like it's guaranteed that the number will be yours forever. Which means that, like AIM, you might only be able to use it for a little while, but it's not known exactly how long you can use it (I've seen the AIM number still work after a few days of inactivity). If that's the case, then it would seem to be equal between the two services.

The Google number at least looks like a real phone number, though. But I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing (someone might try to actually call it -- I wonder what sort of confusion that might cause).

Quote:

Also, in that same established sense when someone sends sms to you and you are offline, it will be queued for you once you are online.
Does that only work if you're using gmail? I know Google Talk will queue your messages in your Chats folder on gmail, if you're not online... but I don't know if you can get those without logging into Gmail.

Quote:

Also, the cruft that gets sent to your recipients is a few less characters with gtalk than what AIM sends
I didn't, in my test, notice it being significantly less obnoxious.

klogdog 2008-12-29 05:49

Re: txt/sms messgeing on n800???
 
so I don't see what the problem is. It works. To answer your question it does not require you to log into gmail for a convo to be brought up. I have had no problem with friends replying to me yet.


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