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dont 2008-06-04 17:55

Linus is talking to me?
 
This MUST have been discussed before, but I can't find anything about it.

I have just re-flashed OS2008 on my N800 and now I get a spoken message from Linus Torvalds as part of the start-up sequence:

'My name is Linus Torvalds and I pronounce Linux as Linux'

I also just cloned the install to an SD card using Penguinbait's install-tool and when I boot from the SD card I don't get this message, I only get when I boot from flash.

It is kind of spooky.

Texrat 2008-06-04 18:01

Re: Linus is talking to me?
 
I have never encountered that... never heard of it, either.

sjgadsby 2008-06-04 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dont (Post 188681)
Quote:

My name is Linus Torvalds and I pronounce Linux as Linux

That sound file's fairly well known in the Linux world, but it's not part of the Internet tablet firmware, and it shouldn't play as part of your startup unless you've customized something (or installed something that did some customization).

Have you installed anything since reflashing? If so, what?

IcelandDreams 2008-06-04 18:12

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:)
Happens to me too. I was certain that it was related to the SD clone since it started after that. Funny that it happens when I boot to the normal flash. I've heard that recording many times elsewhere but only recently on the NIT.

sjgadsby 2008-06-04 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dont (Post 188681)
I also just cloned the install to an SD card using Penguinbait's install-tool...

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcelandDreams (Post 188688)
Happens to me too. I was certain that it was related to the SD clone since it started after that.

Well then, it sounds as though this may be a little audio warning from penguinbait that the tablet is booting from internal flash.

dont 2008-06-04 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IcelandDreams (Post 188688)
:)
Happens to me too. I was certain that it was related to the SD clone since it started after that.

I am relieved that I am not the only one!

I don't have much installed on my N800 as I was just starting over again:

RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.51-3_PRCOMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
becomeroot
openssh

then I installed Penguinbait's install-tool (several times because my SD card was acting up).

Maybe Penguinbait laid a little easter egg?

But I think I heard this before I tried cloning to SD.

penguinbait 2008-06-04 18:40

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When you install using my install-tools package

It adds my favorite wav

If you boot to flash, it will fsck all available ext2/ext3 partitions on all available SD cards and play wav when complete. The wav that plays Linus, pronouncing linux.

Additionally you can see the fsck output in /tmp/fsck.txt (might be /tmp/fsck.tmp My memory sucks)

The wav is located in /root/.linus

This was so I did not have to manually run fsck each time I crashed, which is often, since I am always doing things, I probably should not be :)

I thought it would be handy for everyone else, I did document it in the post :)

IcelandDreams 2008-06-04 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 188700)
I thought it would be handy for everyone else, I did document it in the post :)

I must have pulled a slashdot because I didn't read that part. But I assumed right when I did hear it. I met Linus once and that is his voice.

2nd favourite has to be "My name...José Jiménez"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%...nez_(character)

:p

BoxOfSnoo 2008-06-04 20:56

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This reminds me how far things have come in a few years. I've called it Lye-nucks for years because when I started using it, I didn't have a sound card. Yeah, they used to be luxury options back then.

I know the "official" way (which has changed since the sound file was recorded, notice?), but since his name is Linus it was a logical step for a mute computer.

gemniii42 2008-06-04 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 188700)
I did document it in the post :)

Most of us are male.
From several sources of rules for men:
"Christopher Columbus did not need directions, and neither do we"

Most of us only read all the documentation if we think there is a good chance that somewhere it will say forget all the rest of the instructions.

Benson 2008-06-04 21:23

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Originally Posted by BoxOfSnoo (Post 188745)
I know the "official" way (which has changed since the sound file was recorded, notice?)

I'm not sure what you mean? It's pronounced as in the sound file; that's canonical, and unchanged to my knowledge. What do you think it changed to?

Benson 2008-06-04 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gemniii42 (Post 188757)
Most of us are male.
From several sources of rules for men:
"Christopher Columbus did not need directions, and neither do we"

Most of us only read all the documentation if we think there is a good chance that somewhere it will say forget all the rest of the instructions.

I'm a man, but I'm also a geek. One of the rules for geeks is:
Read documentation:
  • obsessively
  • in proportion to technicality
    ---and---
  • in inverse proportion to practical utility
Yeah, it drives some people near to me mad. They give me a nice present, and I spend a half-hour in the manual before I finish unpacking it. (If the manual contained assembly instructions, I skimmed them, or skipped entirely, but I know how to reconfigure, rebuild, or anything else.)

BoxOfSnoo 2008-06-04 21:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 188759)
I'm not sure what you mean? It's pronounced as in the sound file; that's canonical, and unchanged to my knowledge. What do you think it changed to?

It changed from LEE-nucks to LINN-icks.

Watch the video here :) : http://suseroot.com/about-suse-linux...unce-linux.php

Benson 2008-06-04 22:02

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Except that the .wav says LINN-ucks; the I is skewed a bit towards EE (on account of accent), but is still much closer to I than to EE; as for uks vs. iks, I'm inclined to agree with the author of that SuSE page that they're, in practice, indistinguishable.

I don't know how you, or the SuSE dude, would take that initial pronunciation as LEE-nuks; to me it's plainly LIN-uks, with a bit of an accent. But I guess we (you, me, and Linus) all agree now, so it's irrelevant... ;)

TheGogmagog 2008-06-06 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 188700)
If you boot to flash, it will fsck all available ext2/ext3 partitions on all available SD cards and play wav when complete. The wav that plays Linus, pronouncing linux.
<snip>
This was so I did not have to manually run fsck each time I crashed, which is often, since I am always doing things, I probably should not be :)

I thought it would be handy for everyone else, I did document it in the post :)

Wish I read the whole post, I wrote a script to run fsck and have been running it a second time.

IcelandDreams 2008-06-06 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGogmagog (Post 189324)
Wish I read the whole post, I wrote a script to run fsck and have been running it a second time.

earlier.....
Quote:

From several sources of rules for men:
"Christopher Columbus did not need directions, and neither do we"
I think that proves the point quite well..
:D


"Linux sucks, Windows sucks, Linux sucks less".

suitti 2008-06-06 20:59

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Wow. So, since 1992, i've been pronouncing "linux" correctly. I'd guessed it wouldn't have anything to do with how he pronounces his name. I'm so prophetic.

Maybe that's because i read manuals. For the record, i'm a guy.

There is some evidence that Columbus did his homework and knew the world was 25,000 miles in circumference. But Moses led the Israelites around and around for 40 years because he wouldn't ask for directions.

Texrat 2008-06-06 21:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suitti (Post 189427)
There is some evidence that Columbus did his homework and knew the world was 25,000 miles in circumference. But Moses led the Israelites around and around for 40 years because he wouldn't ask for directions.

LOL at Moses comment.

There's also evidence that Columbus had access to ancient maps that showed more than he was willing to let on. Another rule for men. ;)

krisse 2008-06-06 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suitti (Post 189427)
Wow. So, since 1992, i've been pronouncing "linux" correctly. I'd guessed it wouldn't have anything to do with how he pronounces his name. I'm so prophetic.

Linus Torvalds actually pronounces his name three different ways depending on which language he's speaking:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5IfHm6R5le0

The Finnish pronunciation of the name "Linus" is roughly LEE-noose, and in Finnish the word "linux" would be correctly pronounced "LIH-nooks". (Little bit of language trivia here, Finnish tends to emphasise the first syllable of its words, so for example you should say "HEL-sinki" and not "hel-SINKI").

However, Linus is from the Swedish-speaking minority of Finland, and he works mainly in English, so the situation is a little bit complicated. :-)

penguinbait 2008-06-06 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suitti (Post 189427)
Wow. So, since 1992, i've been pronouncing "linux" correctly. I'd guessed it wouldn't have anything to do with how he pronounces his name. I'm so prophetic.

Maybe that's because i read manuals. For the record, i'm a guy.

There is some evidence that Columbus did his homework and knew the world was 25,000 miles in circumference. But Moses led the Israelites around and around for 40 years because he wouldn't ask for directions.

Actually he is Linus, and he pronounces it Lin-iss, not like Charley Brown's friend Lye-nuss

So it is the same as he pronounces his name.

krisse 2008-06-06 21:31

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Penguinbait is quite right, the "Lye-nuss" pronunciation is an Americanism, it's not used in Swedish or Finnish.

BoxOfSnoo 2008-06-07 02:11

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Except in the video, Linus himself says his name in English is LYE-nuss.

But are you going to believe that joker? Who does he think he is?

sjgadsby 2008-06-07 02:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxOfSnoo (Post 189494)
Except in the video, Linus himself says his name in English is LYE-nuss.

Are you suggesting that because the English version of Linus's name is pronounced differently, persons for whom English is their primary language should pronounce "Linux" in a correspondingly different manner?

Texrat 2008-06-07 05:03

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I'm suggesting everyone have a drink.

penguinbait 2008-06-08 23:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 189531)
I'm suggesting everyone have a drink.

Are you handing out the pints?

BoxOfSnoo 2008-06-09 01:03

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Either way, nice plan.


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