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[Canola] "Off topic?" Carman news! Now closer to Canola, EFL based and more!
Hi Guys,
Sorry for this Off topic :) but the new version of Carman is getting so close to Canola that I think it belongs here as well :) http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/d...pcoming-update Let me know what you think :) Fully opensource, as it already was in august more or less the release ! Marcelo |
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really good to hear that carman is getting (more) development time. I have found that there are a few bugs in its current version and hope they are addressed in the next version.
the roadmap shows that GPS integration is forthcoming, and that will be a nice thing to see. The UI looks pretty snazzy, and even in its current form is easy to navigate. what i do wonder about is the ability to create a vehicle-centric profile and use vendor specific error codes without having to code them out in an XML file. is this kind of functionality a possibility? |
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Ohhh Handful, you tease! God I'm excited - when....?
Looks stunning. I take it that it all integrates using GPS. Will the maps app be in the final release? What maps does it use? Wayfinder or Google etc. I like the trip report feature, reminds me of Nokia's sports tracker, which I use on my cycle rides. |
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Brendam, I am inviting Eduardo, the lead dev behind carman in the forum, so he will be able to answer precisely your questions :)))
Marcelo |
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Well, we cannot use google maps :) licensing problems you know, so openstreet maps is the default. BUT it's just like maemo mappers if you know what I mean :)))
It indeed have this similarity with the sport trackers and in the future we want to be able to add even more (actually is already working) like real time communication between peers over Gtalk accounts :) Marcelo |
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Update: The expected release date is August (second or third week) We expect to have it on the website working, tested and ready to be used at that time. Also fully opensource.
Marcelo |
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Weird, it seems like this should've hit Planet. Perhaps a problem with the feed?
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General : I am actually most of the time not posting on the planet, : /
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Carman's looking pretty sweet! Definitely would be interested in this. By the way, would it be compatible with bluetooth devices such as this?
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp |
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Red: I can almost swear that we do have some of those here on the development team :) I think it's the bluetooth one. (that was the goal, you use some OBD2 to bt converter.. and we connect to BT to do the app) Again I am just waiting for the tech guys to joing here to answer better.
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Wow! Thank you!
Sad that N810 doesn't have an acceleration sensor, so you could release the ultimate driftbox (www.driftbox.com). Or can we use a N82 over bluetooth to get acceleration data into N810? (like ExtGPS) This would be awesome if Carman supports acceleration data from a Nxx phone over bluetooth and work like a driftbox with GPS logging... |
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With regards to the price, most of the car enthusiasts I know use ScanGauge II, which costs the same as the OBDKey with Bluetooth module. The benefit of using Carman on a tablet would be more extensive logging and analysis. I think it'd be a great tool to optimize driving habits for increasing gas mileage. |
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Hi folks,
since version 0.6 carman supports Obdkey. In this new version we focusing on the EFL UI and on the data comunication daemon. The version 0.7 will have 3 new modes: - Gauge (already available in the current version, but with a better graphics and interaction) - Map view - integrated with GPS - Trip report (see the obd recorded data crossing it with geo location data - OBD x time or distance X geo location data) - Follow ( using pidgin to exchange geo location and obd data with a buddy) - nice to see where your buddy is ;) We are working hard on it and we expect to have a release soon. |
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folhabranca,
you're saying that i can now see what my air/fuel mixture ratio is based on altitude, given the same speed and engine load? now those are datasets... i digress... i have the elmscan 5 bluetooth device. the data that is reported by carman is done so in a serial fashion. that is to say, one sensor is updated and then another, and so on. are there obdii devices that allow for a more parallel operation that will allow updates to occur in a more real time fashion? is the serialized data collection a functional limitation of the elmscan device or that of carman? i am really interested in getting a device that more closely shows the data in real time, as i figure its the elmscan and not carman. i may have an elmscan 5 BT up for sale in the near future... |
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Hi Brendam,
Eduardo is going probably to answer you in more detail, but as I was aware of this detail since the beginning I can talk about it :) It's indeed serial, and you need to get the values in sequence, but the improvements made by eduardo and the team (Folhabranca is his nickname) is giving now 100ms reading time, what you will give you aprox. 10 values / second, and those can be of different sensors. As altitude and others comes from gps you will be able to have ~13-14 values / second :) I believe it's a good data set! This delay was really annoying and now I think it's much more improved and responsive :) ADDING : screen for the Follow feature This is really nice feature: Imagine being able to set routes based on your friend, not a place? Well we actually are not going to deploy routes live tracing now, but it can be done easily. http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/w...2008/06/20.jpg Marcelo |
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i have a few posts ( here and here ) that go into a bit more detail about the vendor specific engine codes and the functionality that would be really neat in carman. i would love to hear from eduardo or his team on the feasibility of implementing a more user friendly way of showing those codes and their description.
i really cant wait for the new version to come out, as it makes "shade tree mechanic" diagnostics that much easier. |
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Brenda, he just came here on my table and I told him about your question :) he is coming to answer you better. But this is indeed our goal, to support as much as we can and with the code descriptions can be easy or we can generate a tool or something :)
Marcelo |
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The DTCs description is in the dtc.in file (https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scm...02&view=markup)
This file contains a general error description that can be edited by the user. The UI reads a python gdbm version of this file that is created by this script https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scm...02&view=markup |
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i just read a little more about the "track your friend" option and, aside from the comparative drag racing that it will induce, it seems like a cool little feature. undoubtedly, users of the new version will be chomping at the bit to get a real, fast data-type plan (wimax or cell radio) built into the NIT's to take full advantage of this feature.
this can also help when stranded due to auto failure. one could possibly diagnose the issue, stop at the auto parts store to pick up the needed parts and meet up with the person who is stranded. kinda like a custom "on-star" without the governments ability to hack into it... |
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Yeah brendam,
There's a lot of good, personal and comercial use for that. It would be great to see fleet controlling and monitor on the go, security usages, convoy of friends with live communications so on and so on :) Marcelo |
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Regarding "track your friend," that should be a Canola feature. It sounds more of a Social Networking feature. ;)
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Reggie : yeah, but the track is more for Imagine you're going together to a place where only your friend ahead of you knows the way. The traffic can make you lose each other, so what if your device (Canola+Carman Edition) "Navigates" using him as guide :)
Marcelo |
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to that track your friend point, there is also the possibility of mesh based real-time traffic data, if an open, platform independent architecture could be formed.
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Yes brendan, that would be the ultimate, but then I think it's a little bit bigger than we could handle ourselves... but with carman reamining fully opensource, maybe if a community forms around it can make it happen :)
Marcelo |
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Another case if you are in a certain meeting place, you can query how far are your other 10 friends from you, or who among your relatives are within a 5km radius. ;) |
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Looking amazing. Shame its released in August though, got a long road trip in 3 weeks and would of loved to take it with me. Maybe I can be a beta-tester handful? ;)
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Really looking forward to this, but I have a question: Will this be compatible? http://tinyurl.com/5q2p9p ? The OBD2 adapter they recommend is quite expensive.
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I've been trying to find out about this one here
Not had any success with finding anyone to say yes/no yet though. |
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I have received this kind of product :
Ebay I tried it with carman but I have a connection error, seems that carman is not compatible with diablo. I will give you my feedback when it works. This is a product based on ELM327 and bluetooth so if it works for me, there's no reason why it should not work for you. |
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Thanks for the information.
I tried about 20 times but I still have the connection error. Maybe my key has been broken during the delivery, I should try with a laptop. Looking at carman's garage, it seems that another user is experiencing the same connection problem ( bug #2667 ). |
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There are definitely issues with establishing the connect but when it connects it works continuously after that (until you disconnect). I think the best bet is to hold off until the new version is available.
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Can't wait for that new version.
Hope it will be out at the beginning of August. August is such a long month... :D |
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Having looked at the "roadmap" from the carman webiste I would be very suprised to see a new release in August. The roadmap shows that 0.7 release should have been done in may, and 0.8 is "not started".
No idea how uptodate they are but it doesn't look good. |
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The announce has been made after may.
So I think the roadmap is just not up to date. |
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To keep with this thread what scanners are people using that can be purchased from reliable US sources?
I've got to support: 1996 Saturn 1998 Chevy Cavalier 2004 Honda Civic 2008 Honda Fit and when it comes in 2009 VW TDI Jetta Sportwagen any suggestions welcome. |
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so the folks that are having issues with carman on diablo, how did you get it to finally connect? I keep having a "connection error" messages as well. i deleted the profile from carman and re-created it, to no avail. i even deleted the elmscan 5 bluetooth profile and re-created it.
i can find no logs for carman, and would like to see more on that front in a future version. if i could do any troubleshooting, i might be able to figure out what is going wrong. |
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