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Reggie 2008-06-25 03:03

[Canola] Canola and Diablo
 
What's needed to run Canola in Diablo? Anything to fix on the base repository link?

penguinbait 2008-06-25 03:12

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 195377)
What's needed to run Canola in Diablo? Anything to fix on the base repository link?


I added
http://repository.maemo.org/extras
chinook
free non-free

I installed open ssh, but I did not try canola. Its in the list though?

hfw01 2008-06-25 03:40

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
I have Canola installed with Diablo, and it seems to be behaving fine. Don't forget to backup your settings before flashing.

-hal

mrlanrat 2008-06-25 06:13

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Adding chinook extras did it for me.

nikolajhendel 2008-06-25 07:22

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Canola works like a charm on diablo.
installed canola + tuning plugin + upnp plugin + youtube plugin.

Everything works as before

handful 2008-06-25 22:33

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Guys, For now unfortunately you need to add the chinook repositories.
We are trying to fix this, but this is indeed not as easy as it should be, and we only new of the release today like everyone else : /


MArcelo

crabolsky 2008-06-26 02:01

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 195893)
Guys, For now unfortunately you need to add the chinook repositories.
We are trying to fix this, but this is indeed not as easy as it should be, and we only new of the release today like everyone else : /


MArcelo

Ive tried manually adding the chinook repo. and then adding the canola repo, but it fails to update. WHat is the easiest way to add repositories? The link earlier in the post doesn't go to a download page. It goes to the maemo extras parent directory.

GeneralAntilles 2008-06-26 02:08

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crabolsky (Post 195947)
Ive tried manually adding the chinook repo. and then adding the canola repo, but it fails to update. WHat is the easiest way to add repositories? The link earlier in the post doesn't go to a download page. It goes to the maemo extras parent directory.

What Canola repo? The only repo you need to add is Chinook Extras.

crabolsky 2008-06-26 02:14

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 195952)
What Canola repo? The only repo you need to add is Chinook Extras.

I meant the canola base repository (as shown on the canola website)

At any rate I worked out the problem. I just didn't name the repo properly. For anyone wondering... Here is the correct add:

Catalog name: maemo Extras chinook
Web address: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/
Distrbution: chinook
Components: free non-free

:)

Benson 2008-06-26 02:16

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
The name doesn't matter. Glad you got it working, whatever's different.

TokyoDan 2008-06-26 05:56

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Adding chinook extras did it for me too. But the App manager displayy "canola-tuning" and "canola-tuning-plugin". Which one should I install?


Quote:

Originally Posted by nikolajhendel (Post 195454)
Canola works like a charm on diablo.
installed canola + tuning plugin + upnp plugin + youtube plugin.

Everything works as before


GeneralAntilles 2008-06-26 06:12

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoDan (Post 196021)
Adding chinook extras did it for me too. But the App manager displayy "canola-tuning" and "canola-tuning-plugin". Which one should I install?

canola-tuning-plugin

handful 2008-06-26 17:33

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
The Canola-tuniing plugin is the latest one, which integrates INTO canola, the older (canola-plugin) is kept on the list just to provide the browser Feed handler to easy your life if you want :)

Marcelo

munky261 2008-06-27 08:23

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
i just installed canola on diablo...is there a reason there is no "videos" option on the main screen?

handful 2008-06-27 13:34

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Hi Munky,

No theres not : / I flashed 2 n800 of mine installed Canola (just enabled the extras with chinook as repo) and everything worked fine.

Can you provide more info? What other software you installed..etc?

Also : if you can run on xterm with -vvv it can shows why the video plugin is not loading.

Marcelo

munky261 2008-06-27 14:24

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
pretty long list...needless to say, it wasnt anything i didnt have before any ideas what could cause it to try to narrow the list down?

handful 2008-06-27 14:40

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
if the plugin is not loading, there's a [ERROR] line, can you try grepping or narrowing down by it? If you can send me via private messagr or email even the whole list is helpful!

handful AT gmail

Marcelo

b-man 2008-06-27 14:53

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
I'm getting the same problem, no video icon :(

b-man 2008-06-27 14:59

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
1 Attachment(s)
here's an error log file i created:

handful 2008-06-27 17:30

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
B-man : can you tell me which other apps / repositories you have on your diablo device? I need to know that because 4 flashed devices, only activating extras (with chinook as distribution) all installed Canola perfectly with upnp, youtube and last.fm.

I am not able to reproduce this bug ;/ I need more info from you guys...

Apps,
Repositories you may have

BR

Marcelo

JayJay 2008-06-27 23:20

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
I'm having Canola problems too. Yesterday everything was fine. I had all the Canola plug-ins installed, and everything worked. Today, when I clicked on Canola, it said "Canola - loading" and then it did nothing. It refused to start. I tried to reinstall it, but it still wouldn't start. So, I reflashed Diablo. I tried to install it again, and now it started, but this time there's no video icon, like the others have said. There's also no icons for internet radio and podcasts. I reflashed again, and installed Canola first without installing or changing anything else, I didn't use a backup either. Same problem. How is it that it was working fine yesterday, and won't work today?

handful 2008-06-28 02:14

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
JayJay:

Simple : some files must be going into the official diablo packages, and are conflicting now. that's why I created the post saying about that it's a little bit more dangerous than it seems to go straight to diablo. As you can see on Maemo's Guys posts they are aware that are not applications on diablo's repositories, we are rushing to compile CAnola with Diablo's SDK but we need the other components, so we are rushing with Python also but Mplayer and some others we are not "maintainer"s than we also need to wait for people to update.

: /

MArcelo

TrueJournals 2008-06-28 02:34

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
It seems that there was an update to python today that screwed everything up. Python was put in the actual diablo repository, but it doesn't include glade anymore, and judging from what's happening with Canola, that's not the only thing that's missing.

I had Canola working just fine earlier today, I updated my python, and now the video and UPnP icons are missing. Also, going in to music or photos, there is only one icon.

handful 2008-06-28 02:40

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Yeah, you're right :

"
There are many people doing this work silently right now, including Nokia developers helping out. You can follow the progress here and ultimately in your device every evening."

This is from Qim Gil announcements, so you know that people is indeed uploading pieces by pieces... that's why things will break : / sorry.

Marcelo

JayJay 2008-06-28 03:13

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. :)

handful 2008-06-28 03:53

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
: ) I think it's trauma after all those problematic launches :))))

But let's hope things will be ok soon :) I think Diablo is way better than the others :)

Marcelo

wartstew 2008-06-28 17:45

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
After upgrading my N810 to Diablo, Canola now only show 3 items in the root menu: Audio, Pictures, & Settings.

So gone is Video, and all inside.

Any ideas about what didn't get installed/upgraded/configured correctly?

TokyoDan 2008-06-28 21:37

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
I did the upgrade and Canola is perfect so far, although I haven't used it Yet. I installed the following plugins, canola-tuning, upnp, youtube, and also the one for ogg support (this. by the way. allowed the installation of Audio Tag Tool which I couldn't complete successfully before due to lack of ogg library dependencies). The only thing I didn't do (the second time I re-flashed) was restore applications because the first time I did that it screwed up my system and I ended up with TWO identical application menus on the main screen. So I re-flashed and installed everything one at a time. Could that be the source of all of our problems - restoring applications during the flash-install of Diablo?

Nutz 2008-06-28 22:26

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wartstew (Post 197094)
After upgrading my N810 to Diablo, Canola now only show 3 items in the root menu: Audio, Pictures, & Settings.

So gone is Video, and all inside.

Any ideas about what didn't get installed/upgraded/configured correctly?


I can see the video icon, but Canola can't see any video files (it can see music) - I'm streaming from my XP laptop and the sream is coming via Windoze Media Player - it worked fine before

TokyoDan 2008-06-28 22:45

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
On my N810 with Diable and canolo 2 I searched for a Amy Winehouse video, found it and it's playing fine now.

handful 2008-06-28 23:41

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
wartstew : please read the previous post in this same thread. The problem is related to the new way diablo / maemo are going to work, and some packages are being changed in the servers in several components. So we cannot guarantee a stable build now.

BR

MArcelo

overfloat 2008-06-29 01:22

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
I noticed one more bug - i cant control the volume when playing an mp3 using the touch screen anymore, when i press on the volume bar it drops to zero. I can increase the volume with the zoom buttons though - anyone else experiencing this?

handful 2008-06-29 04:06

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Over: we are not even looking into "bugs" because there's not a Diablo build. So only when we officially compile with Diablo, with Python's final version for Diablo and so on we will start accepting bugs from it.

Marcelo

*PS : again : things will "change" "out of nothing" because software versions are being uploaded to diablo's repos. So please be aware that the experience will be this.. a mix of emotions :)

Marcelo

overfloat 2008-06-29 10:30

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Sorry, i used the incorrect terminology, instead of 'bug' i meant 'incompatibility'

handful 2008-06-29 14:41

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Over: No problem :) Just telling you that what you have installed is by no means, a Diablo version of canola :) it's a "hack" :)

Marcelo

beatniks3 2008-06-29 18:37

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
i feel like such a newbie, but i have tried to download the extras needed to run canola in diablo from the links in the beginning of the post but i can't seem to figure out what or how to download the extras. could someone dumb it down for me?

thanks much

handful 2008-06-30 04:47

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Beatnik: you don't " need " to download.
Just go to your application installer. Then in the menu, search for application catalogues.

You're going to see one "extras" or " maemo extras" that is disabled. click on it to edit it, and enable it.. you just need to add the name chinook to the distribution input.

Save, refresh and then try again

BUT: remember what we have been saing : this is not a recommended diablo version, it's a hack, and diablo packages are being generated for all applications and components, so you WILL face problems.

Marcelo

TokyoDan 2008-06-30 14:12

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Man This is ****ED UP! I'm going to sell my N810 and buy something that is ORGANIZED like an iPhone 3G! I always wondered about this "open source" stuff and also wondered if it wasn't a crock of **** with a bunch of undisciplined hackers adding layer upon layer of shitty and buggy software. Well this is swayiing me towards thinking that the disciplined way of apple and their upcoming app store is the way to go. Makes things a lot easier for both users and developers.

beatniks3 2008-06-30 14:18

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 197548)
Beatnik: you don't " need " to download.
Just go to your application installer. Then in the menu, search for application catalogues.

You're going to see one "extras" or " maemo extras" that is disabled. click on it to edit it, and enable it.. you just need to add the name chinook to the distribution input.

Save, refresh and then try again

BUT: remember what we have been saing : this is not a recommended diablo version, it's a hack, and diablo packages are being generated for all applications and components, so you WILL face problems.

Marcelo

thanks i'll give that a try, i will keep in mind what you say about it not being recommended. i have a cloned chinook os on sd with working canola so i would just be experimenting with trying it with canola in diablo.

JayJay 2008-06-30 14:43

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoDan (Post 197666)
Man This is ****ED UP! I'm going to sell my N810 and buy something that is ORGANIZED like an iPhone 3G! I always wondered about this "open source" stuff and also wondered if it wasn't a crock of **** with a bunch of undisciplined hackers adding layer upon layer of shitty and buggy software. Well this is swayiing me towards thinking that the disciplined way of apple and their upcoming app store is the way to go. Makes things a lot easier for both users and developers.

Go ahead. Enjoy the two year contract that comes with it.


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