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Pretoriano 2008-06-25 10:00

Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Wayfinder maps updated to maps of 2008, finally!! Can anyone confirm this? I saw this with a diablo fresh install.

mikkov 2008-06-25 10:17

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Yes, all maps are marked as version 2008.1

mathew.chacko 2008-06-25 10:21

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Does this mean we have to re-download the regional maps?

Pretoriano 2008-06-25 10:23

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Yes, you have to

mikkov 2008-06-25 11:30

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I downloaded 2008.1 Scandinavia map, but I can't find any missing roads or errors fixed in Finland.

Some errors are:
- missing runway from Helsinki-Vantaa (built in 2002)
- missing railroad from Kerava to Lahti (built 2006)

and couple of smaller errors. Did they just change version numbers or are there any real improvements?

Pretoriano 2008-06-25 11:34

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Well, the maps now are bigger in MB, spain for exemple, 192MB-244MB. Surely there are improvements. And i saw that all (i think) are now bigger.

andrewfblack 2008-06-25 11:36

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You know not all roads make navigation maps. Some may never make a map.

mikkov 2008-06-25 11:43

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Actually Google Maps have exactly the same errors. Looks like Tele Atlas is just slow updating their data.

bongo 2008-06-25 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 195530)
I downloaded 2008.1 Scandinavia map, but I can't find any missing roads or errors fixed in Finland.

Some errors are:
- missing runway from Helsinki-Vantaa (built in 2002)
- missing railroad from Kerava to Lahti (built 2006)

and couple of smaller errors. Did they just change version numbers or are there any real improvements?

it looked the same with germany map until i removed the old one

spooley 2008-06-25 12:31

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
With Daiblo instaled, I noticed that new maps were available for the UK and Ireland: 2008.1 as against my older 2006.7.

One warning: the 'favourites' seem to be associated with individual maps, rather than global across all maps. Switching from

UK-Ireland TA2006.07 143MB

to

UK-Ireland 2008.1 164MB

lost all my favourites! Fortunately, I had not deleted the 2006.07 maps and was able to find where the favourites are stored.

cp /media/mmc2/map/mapdata_UK-Ireland2/favourites.txt /media/mmc2/map/mapdata/favourites.txt

made all my favourites available with the new maps.

(Does anyone know the format of that file, by the way? I'd like to import a lot of locations from other GPS devices.)

I have notcied some changes/mprovements in the actual map data: e.g. the new A30 section in Cornwall near "Victoria Roche GBR" is now present. (I drove that section a couple of weeks ago with the 2006.7 map, and Wayfinder got rather confused as I was driving through fields!)

Simon.

Alpha4 2008-06-25 13:17

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Does it show side-road (roads adjoining route) names now?

Suppose I'll find out in a while - download of new map is v-e-r-y
s-l-o-w.

NIT Map always put my house location at top of road, not middle where it actually is. Mind you, Google maps is off too. If I do hybrid view (sat photo and map graphic combined) they are out by about 300-400 yards. Nokia N95 Maps are the same.

Some data screwed somewhere I reckon.

ttate90303 2008-06-25 13:35

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Yeah speaking of downloading slow. Is there any way to download it to a desktop then transfer the new maps?

bunanson 2008-06-25 13:39

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I know it is obvious, one has to click the refresh button to see the NEW maps.
USA East 732 > 785 etc. all maps are larger except Singapore, remains 1 Mb ;).

Edit: mistakes. I think it just getting bigger maps, not more maps. My mistakes.



bun

mrlanrat 2008-06-25 14:10

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Are these the same maps and are they updated?
http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...B/wfnavigator/

ttate90303 2008-06-25 14:43

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlanrat (Post 195601)
Are these the same maps and are they updated?
http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...B/wfnavigator/

Don't know about the US East/West, but the Canada one is still the older version (it was the smaller of the 3 to download and I looked at the version.txt file in the zip package).

alephito 2008-06-25 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlanrat (Post 195601)
Are these the same maps and are they updated?
http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...B/wfnavigator/

There is no Hawaii, México, Brazil and Malaysia in the list, so I suppose is not updated.

sirfelix 2008-06-25 18:01

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Those Navicore maps (including the US maps) are still from 2006.10
I'm also looking for a way to download the new maps via PC because it takes forever to DL via N810. Any ideas?

prk60091 2008-06-25 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlanrat (Post 195601)
Are these the same maps and are they updated?
http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...B/wfnavigator/

i assume that they are
if you try to download them you will see that those servers are being hammered just like on my n810- it says 2 hrs 13 min to complete 700+MB download

alephito 2008-06-25 19:18

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Maybe they are old but they are in the same server than the new ones.

sirfelix 2008-06-25 21:05

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Can the server be accessed via FTP for downloading to a PC? If so, what is the path?

YoDude 2008-06-25 21:35

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Wayfinder should be boycotted by all tablet users!

The only "substantial" upgrade that I have seen since I bought the navigation kit when it was first released over a year ago has been the name change from Navicore and now the addition of a green heart to the logo.

My reasoning for the boycott is not because of the $329 I paid for it only to see the price drop to $299 2 weeks later, or because 6 months after that the reduced my license from unlimited to 36 months, or for the dismal interface, customer service, and general disregard for tablet users; No, the reason for the boycott is simply because its inclusion with the OS is cock blocking any decent companies like TomTom or Garmin from entering the Tablet market by limiting their potential revenue.

Nikem 2008-06-25 22:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 195863)
The only "substantial" upgrade that I have seen since I bought the navigation kit when it was first released over a year ago has been the name change from Navicore and now the addition of a green heart to the logo.

... and I thought updated maps as stated in this thread?

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude
No, the reason for the boycott is simply because its inclusion with the OS is cock blocking any decent companies like TomTom or Garmin from entering the Tablet market by limiting their potential revenue.

:confused: Does Nokia not allow third-party apps? How could they do it? Do you have a quote from someone from TomTom or anybody else, that they would like to offer navigation-sw for the NIT?

YoDude 2008-06-25 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikem (Post 195883)
... and I thought updated maps as stated in this thread?

Um... US East 2006 = 732 MB. US East 2008 = 733 MB... 1 MB of map and a green heart = substantial???

(+ 2.5 hours to download :rolleyes: )



Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikem (Post 195883)
... :confused: Does Nokia not allow third-party apps? How could they do it? Do you have a quote from someone from TomTom or anybody else, that they would like to offer navigation-sw for the NIT?

Sure they do... notice the slang term "cock blocking". What potential market that is here has been diminished by the inclusion of a "free" cripple ware version of a navigation program. TomTom and others use "potential market" to justify expending resources on compatible versions (No quote needed. This is covered in Bidness 101 at Community Colleges throughout the land. :p )

BTW, TomTom would be a relatively easy port as they already have Linux/armel versions for the 4.3" display...

So... Boycott Wayfinder, wake the kids and call the neighbors and have them voice their negative user experiences in this thread, e-mail TomTom with this threads URL, sit back and wait for a decent, USABLE, and full customizable program for around a $100.

bunanson 2008-06-25 22:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 195890)
Um... US East 2006 = 732 MB. US East 2008 = ...

2008 has almost ALL maps increase in size.

2008/2006 (in MB)
USA East 785/732
USA West 726/685
Canada 77/75
Germany 307/297
....


As I quipped in earlier post, Singapore is the ONLY one that the number does not change; probably because she is so pettit :)

BTW, the slow dl is irritating, but not much. I start a dl before lie down, in the morning it is done. What bother me the most is the dl aborted, someimes.





bun

alephito 2008-06-25 22:48

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
And besides the increment in map sizes there are new maps. At least, Hawaii, México, Brazil and Malaysia are new additions.

YoDude 2008-06-25 23:57

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 195898)
2008 has almost ALL maps increase in size.

2008/2006 (in MB)
USA East 785/732
USA West 726/685
Canada 77/75
Germany 307/297
....


As I quipped in earlier post, Singapore is the ONLY one that the number does not change; probably because she is so pettit :)

BTW, the slow dl is irritating, but not much. I start a dl before lie down, in the morning it is done. What bother me the most is the dl aborted, someimes.





bun

I do stand corrected. :) The USA east is not updated on their web site yet and I refuse to download to the device for the reasons you mentioned. Wake up and find an abortion...

But still a wopping 7.2404371584699453551912568306011 % increase in map information, no customer support, and no presence in our community...

I got a green heart on though :D

tso 2008-06-26 00:07

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how much space do vector data and location info take up?

IcelandDreams 2008-06-26 00:22

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I guess if I had paid money I'd be upset too but alas I didn't and so far don't see the point. Old paper maps were suitable for finding my way and this plus the other map apps simply makes those old maps more pocket size. I don't think I need whatever else it provides as a paid feature.

But I updated the maps anyway just to see what has changed. Still no Iceland, the whole country doesn't exist apparently. Those paper maps, google maps, and sat maps work as well as they always have.

still ain't lost.

sirfelix 2008-06-26 06:15

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Two questions:

1. I don't see any "green heart" icon anywhere. And I have the latest version, I think.
2. Has anyone checked to see if the KM/H vs MPH bug has been fixed while travelling?

lumindigo85 2008-06-26 09:21

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sirfelix (Post 196028)
Two questions:

1. I don't see any "green heart" icon anywhere. And I have the latest version, I think.
2. Has anyone checked to see if the KM/H vs MPH bug has been fixed while travelling?

You'll see the green heart after upgrading the Tablet OS to Diablo.

YoDude 2008-06-26 10:08

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sirfelix (Post 196028)
Two questions:

2. Has anyone checked to see if the KM/H vs MPH bug has been fixed while travelling?


This^ may have more to do with whether "English UK" or "English US" was selected as the language at start up.

***

and BTW the 2.5 hours I quoted earlier was for downloading to the PC from their web site. Turns out the web sites maps were still 2006 versions. After my last post I initiated a download of "USA East 2008" directly to my device @ 9 PM. It's now 6 AM the next day and the download is less than half complete.

cryptoboy 2008-06-26 15:24

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Has anyone successfully downloaded the USA West 2008 image? I tried two times yesterday (and last night). Both ended in 'download failure'. What was strange was that both downloads seem to fail in the middle of the download. I had ~380MB out of 726MB of data written to my internal storage card both times. Just want to see if I am missing something (like a timeout event)???

Also, it is PAINFULLY slow!!!! First attempt took me close to 4 hours to get to the 50% mark!!!

ioan 2008-06-26 17:30

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptoboy (Post 196169)
Has anyone successfully downloaded the USA West 2008 image?

I did. Yesterday. Took about 3 hours to download.

mrlanrat 2008-06-26 17:45

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ioan (Post 196207)
I did. Yesterday. Took about 3 hours to download.

Same here.

Can someone make a bridge with there computer to the tablet? Internet--(network)-->Computer--(wifi)-->Tablet
and run a packet sniffer on the computer to see where the maps are being downloaded from?

lmf 2008-06-26 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlanrat (Post 196218)
Same here.

Can someone make a bridge with there computer to the tablet? Internet--(network)-->Computer--(wifi)-->Tablet
and run a packet sniffer on the computer to see where the maps are being downloaded from?

they're here... ;)
http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer...B/wfnavigator/

alephito 2008-06-26 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lmf (Post 196219)

No, they are not. Those are the old ones.

bunanson 2008-06-27 03:11

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptoboy (Post 196169)
Has anyone successfully downloaded the USA West 2008 image? I tried two times yesterday (and last night). Both ended in 'download failure'. What was strange was that both downloads seem to fail in the middle of the download. I had ~380MB out of 726MB of data written to my internal storage card both times. Just want to see if I am missing something (like a timeout event)???

Also, it is PAINFULLY slow!!!! First attempt took me close to 4 hours to get to the 50% mark!!!

Just a guess, may not have ground. They need 2X the size of space for the download to work. So, for a 786 mb map, you need at least 1.5 G for the dl to be successful. just from experience from dl 2 yrs ago.....

bun

Mara 2008-06-27 12:49

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
I just did download/update USA-East yesterday successfully. I had to delete both east and west maps before to free enough space... (I also have Scandinavia maps installed.)

Now I need to figure out how to download the west maps... Likely I need to copy the east maps temporarily to PC or external memory card...

EDIT: Did download the West maps. I had to move the Scandinavia maps to external memory card to free enough space. After doing that no problems at all.

cryptoboy 2008-06-27 15:13

Re: Wayfinder maps updated!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 196466)
Just a guess, may not have ground. They need 2X the size of space for the download to work. So, for a 786 mb map, you need at least 1.5 G for the dl to be successful. just from experience from dl 2 yrs ago.....

bun

Yep, that was what I was thinking as well. I deleted all map data and started a new download. This time I was able to get the USA-West 2008 image (after 3+ hours). HOWEVER, after it extracted the map data and installed the map Wayfinder no longer worked. When I opened the app it would dispaly the green-heart splash screen and then it would just exit. No error message or anything!!!

So...I maually deleted all map data again, re-flashed diablo (probably not necessary), and started a new download. I won't know for another 4 hours if this worked or not?

Anyone else had similar problems???

bunanson 2008-06-29 07:24

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Map downloaded at 1st shot, 47 min 1am in the morning USA East. Running without any problem.


bun


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