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Reggie 2008-06-26 02:23

RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Is it safe to update rtcomm in Diablo (on red pill mode) to get Yahoo, MSN, etc on IM?

I was wondering why the updated rtcomm wasn't included by default.

combatdoc 2008-06-26 02:36

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
I dunno why it wasn't ready for diablo, but i installed the rtcomm beta and it works just fine. Didn't seem to affect anything negatively.

GeneralAntilles 2008-06-26 02:41

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Probably Nokia didn't get around to talking with AIM/Yahoo/MSN about it. ;)

Actually, the easier method is to just install the Collabora Telepathy plugins from the Collabora repo listed on gronmayer. No fiddly rtcomm beta installation required.

Reggie 2008-06-26 02:44

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
I followed the original instructions at http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org and all went well.

Thanks all!

paps 2008-06-26 18:26

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 195968)
Probably Nokia didn't get around to talking with AIM/Yahoo/MSN about it. ;)

Actually, the easier method is to just install the Collabora Telepathy plugins from the Collabora repo listed on gronmayer. No fiddly rtcomm beta installation required.

I just installed the collabora repos, but I have a technical issue. I tried adding the sipphone.profile and icons by extracting them from the rtcom-profiles_0.4.tar.gz

I copied the files over to a tmp on the internal card and used easyroot to put the files into the user/share/... folders. I have the profile for sipphone.com, but the icons aren't showing up, any ideas?

-Nevermind, turned the tablet off last night, everything was working perfectly when I turned it on today.

phutterman 2008-06-26 19:56

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Those plugins are really handy. I didn't know about them for quite a long time, and they don't (as far as I've noticed) come up often when people ask how to use their AIM/Yahoo/etc IM accounts on their tablets.

sungrove 2008-06-29 05:16

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 195968)
Probably Nokia didn't get around to talking with AIM/Yahoo/MSN about it. ;)

Actually, the easier method is to just install the Collabora Telepathy plugins from the Collabora repo listed on gronmayer. No fiddly rtcomm beta installation required.

I'm assuming you mean the Collabora Haze repo. Correct?

I like your method, but it's unclear to me which of the files in Collabora Haze ( if that's it) to install.

I did install " account-plugin-haze" with the result that I got Yahoo as an option for linking to an account but it doesn't end up actually establishing a link to my account.

So, what else do I need to install there to get it to work?

The Beta installer software is not working for me. Ap manager says I'm missing packages. ( doing a search on Gronmayer finds some of the packages I need are not there)

Funny, it worked fine to install RTCOMM when I used the restore utility on my first Diablo flash.

Neil

GeneralAntilles 2008-06-29 05:23

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sungrove (Post 197223)
So, what else do I need to install there to get it to work?

Whichever of the telepathy plugins down farther in the list you want/need. Probably just telepathy-haze, but the descriptions tell you which services they provide.

sungrove 2008-06-29 06:16

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
The direct installation of the plugins apparently works well if you already have a large library of dependencies installed.

I tried your method Generalantilles.

Unfortunately, it ended up being a long discouraging process of installing dependency after dependency since often you need to install one or a group of them before you can install another and so on.

Hmm, ?!($#*&%)( oh well.

Edit: When I reflash back to Chinook I can then use the RTCOMM beta installer software to successfully install RTCOMM. But when I go back to Diablo, RTCOMM will not install for me.

Neil

Munk 2008-06-29 08:15

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Sungrove, I have the name of the one you want to install. Just like me you installed the first one but you need to put the second one in as well.

account-plugin-haze 0.1-1 0.1mb
telepathy-haze 0.1.4-0collabora1 1.0mb (this one too)

Once I installed the second one all of my Yahoo attempts showed up under "Accounts". Seven times !! :D

GeneralAntilles 2008-06-29 08:52

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sungrove (Post 197237)
Unfortunately, it ended up being a long discouraging process of installing dependency after dependency since often you need to install one or a group of them before you can install another and so on.

Had you considered adding Chinook Extras to your Diablo install? . . .

sungrove 2008-06-29 18:27

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 197257)
Had you considered adding Chinook Extras to your Diablo install? . . .


I don't see Chinook Extras on Gronmayer. The only thing I see with the word extras is Maemo Extras and I have that.

Very good news though. This method did end up working for me.

Oddly, I had done what Munk suggested two posts back, but in sort of a one step at a time way.

Like, I installed the accounts pluggin one and then tried to set up Yahoo-didn't work. Then I tried adding the Telepathy-haze one and it still didn't work.
But installing of them both , one right after the other, worked!

But this is where I got lost last night: The install notes in Telepathy-Haze said that it used libpurple0. So, I tried installing that and ended up going crazy trying to add endless dependencies.

( Edit: when I was just now going through my installed apps in app manager, I see that libpurple0 is there! So, apparently just installing the accounts pluggin and the Telepathy -haze pluggins also installed libpurple0)

But it's working for me now.

Thanks guys for the help.

Neil

alephito 2008-06-29 18:32

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sungrove (Post 197362)
I don't see Chinook Extras on Gronmayer. The only thing I see with the word extras is Maemo Extras and I have that.

Just create a new catalog with the following info:

Catalog name: maemo Extras chinook
Web address: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/
Distrbution: chinook
Components: free non-free

gerbick 2008-06-29 19:12

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
What version of RT Comm comes with Diablo anyway? I've installed the beta 2.3 - just added the RT Comm Beta Application Catalog... without even looking at the Diablo version.

sungrove 2008-06-29 19:33

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 197376)
What version of RT Comm comes with Diablo anyway? I've installed the beta 2.3 - just added the RT Comm Beta Application Catalog... without even looking at the Diablo version.


Not sure about this-about whether there is an RTCOMM that comes with Diablo. It appears to simply come with the same software that Chinook had .

Have you tried installing RTCOMM ?

Neil

gerbick 2008-06-29 20:02

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
There's one; otherwise you wouldn't be able to set your Google account via the Control Panel or the Contacts portion.

You can't see it listed in installed programs, unless you enter red pill mode. I just went and installed the RTComm Beta 2.3 version without even looking at the version installed.

It very well could be the same version that came with the pre-Diablo version. I'm just curious if that's the case. Once I've installed RT Comm Beta, there are no updates, so I could think that the Beta is the "newest" version.

seiichiro0185 2008-07-05 10:34

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Hi,

I installed telepathy-haze and account-plugin-haze on my fresh Diablo install from collabora-repo. I can setup my ICQ/MSN accounts fine but they are not connecting. There is no error, the panel-symbol just stays blinking and nothing happens. I get the same result when using the rtcomm-beta installer. Anyone has an idea what I did do wrong?

EDIT: seems as if MSN in fact does connect, but the panel-applet doesn't show the icon in the list of connected protocolls like it did on Chinook. But ICQ doesn't connect, maybe cause of the recent change in the servers/protokoll (see this pidign bug report)?

brontide 2008-07-05 11:18

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paps (Post 196242)
I copied the files over to a tmp on the internal card and used easyroot to put the files into the user/share/... folders. I have the profile for sipphone.com, but the icons aren't showing up, any ideas?

-Nevermind, turned the tablet off last night, everything was working perfectly when I turned it on today.

After installing file in that directory you must regenerate the icon cache manually or reboot.

Code:

gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor

allnameswereout 2008-07-05 14:39

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seiichiro0185 (Post 199555)

EDIT: seems as if MSN in fact does connect, but the panel-applet doesn't show the icon in the list of connected protocolls like it did on Chinook. But ICQ doesn't connect, maybe cause of the recent change in the servers/protokoll (see this pidign bug report)?

Yes, true. Someone has to backport this into rtcomm and you're all set.

One can also run Bitlbee on a remote server, and have Irssi in a screen. Then you can SSH to this server from the NIT (consider using SSH keys or OPIE based on your preferences). You can even automate screen -r, and make a script which SSHs to your remote server. Or use PuTTy port.

qole 2008-07-07 16:52

Re: RTCOMM update in Diablo?
 
Hey all, I posted a fix for ICQ in RTCOMM over here. Note that this is not a Diablo-specific fix, it works in Chinook too.


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