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bradpitcher 2006-06-12 17:49

email application
 
Is anyone else annoyed with the built in email app? It's driving me crazy! I set it up to access my gmail with pop. First off, it downloaded over 300 emails for some reason even though I only have four in my inbox and less than that unread. Then, since these are old messages, I wanted to mark them read and archive/trash them. I can't find an option to "mark read" and when I go to archive/trash an email it tells me it's going to delete it from the server! Eventually, I gave up because that is just plain unusable. What gives? Are there any third party apps yet that work with 2006?

bsterix 2006-06-13 07:53

YES! This mailclient is terrible! Slow! ...
I am looking for alternatives, but did't find anything till now.

Pine: Works nice, but has no automaticall POP3 maildownload (e.g. every 5 minutes)
Sylpheed: Great performance, but still "pre-Alpha" (i hope it gets better with os 2006, when the "owner" patches it to Nokia 770)

blazer 2006-06-13 09:32

Sylpheed, once mature, is the best. It has a small memory footprint, decent speed and works with SSL, IMAP-Folders, attachments etc. It has some bugs: You may not minimize it (wont show up in the tasklist), has some menues not hildonized and is not yet ready for Maeomo 2.0 / OS 2006.

I really need this app, so unfortunately I have to wait with the upgrade untill it is available for the new firmware.

Stickarm 2006-06-13 11:34

Actually, I've found the email client to be greatly improved in the 2006 OS beta. The thing I most dislike about it at this point is how there doesn't seem to be one an option to keep mail from multiple accounts seperate -- everything just gets dumped into a single inbox.
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradpitcher
I can't find an option to "mark read" and when I go to archive/trash an email it tells me it's going to delete it from the server!

That's strange, I remember seeing an option for marking mail read/unread (although I guess I could be misremembering) and when I delete messages I get a dialog box asking if I want to delete the mail from the server as well as from the handheld or only from the handheld. Maybe these features are only available for IMAP4 accounts? ...That would be a pretty strange situation, if true.

aflegg 2006-06-13 14:32

blazer: I'm hoping to pick up work on Sylpheed when the bleb.org server's back. (Hopefully this evening...)

bradpitcher 2006-07-01 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickarm
That's strange, I remember seeing an option for marking mail read/unread (although I guess I could be misremembering) and when I delete messages I get a dialog box asking if I want to delete the mail from the server as well as from the handheld or only from the handheld.

I've played with it on iT2006 final now and I'm certain there are no options to mark mail read/unread. And the dialog box you speak of that gives you a choice only comes up when you are deleting mail that has already been read. If it hasn't been read, a dialog comes up warning you that you are deleting email from the server and gives you "OK" and "Cancel" options.
This is really getting ridiculous. How is this usable? Am I way off base with the intended usage of this application? Please, someone uses email on the 770 describe to me his/her daily usage patterns.
And please someone chime in and tell me I'm wrong. I want nothing more than to be wrong right now. I would be perfectly satisfied using the web client if I could get notified of new emails, but AFAIK that doesn't exist.

andras 2006-07-01 21:44

I agree that a better email client is needed. It's been a long, long, long time since I coded with any regularity, so I'm not going to be much help with Sylpheed, but I can tell you that I'm waiting anxiously for it. The existing mail app is very poor. I consistently use 5 email addresses, and have a couple more support mailboxes that I need to check once in a while, and the current app is just not flexible enough. I have to say that I'd rather have a port of the Symbian Series 80 mail app from my 9500 on this than the one that comes with it.

Aflegg - is there anything us non-coders can do to help you out? You mention server issues - can we help there?

Thanks,
Andras

NeilFord 2006-07-01 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradpitcher
This is really getting ridiculous. How is this usable? Am I way off base with the intended usage of this application? Please, someone uses email on the 770 describe to me his/her daily usage patterns.

A straight and honest answer to your question, though I suspect it may not be of much use.

Everything gets forwarded to a GMail account and I use the browser. No trying to keep seperate mail clients in sync (laptop, 770, etc).

But then I use email as a way of receiving information and requests, if I need to respond away from my desk I usually use the phone (it's usually a client requiring help).

So I don't use the sipplied 770 client and was quite pleased to see if gone from the taskbar in OS2006.

- Neil.

aflegg 2006-07-02 07:42

andras: just a case of finding time at the moment.

bsterix 2006-07-02 08:09

It seems the mailclient in OS2006-Final is worse (slower!!) than the OS2006-Beta.

wki 2006-08-01 16:02

aflegg: Have you got any idea, when you will find some time for Sylpheed again. We know, it's hard to find some extra time, but all the ggod new things in OS2006 are fine and just lacking a good email app.
Thanks in advance for your efforts.

bradpitcher 2006-08-01 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilFord
Everything gets forwarded to a GMail account and I use the browser. No trying to keep seperate mail clients in sync (laptop, 770, etc).

I really like this kind of usage as well. The only problem is I would like to have near immediate notification when I receive email. I sent an email to the people who do gmailmon for the 770 to see when we can expect an it2006 version. I never used it before, does it play a sound when you receive emails?

emory 2006-08-01 20:19

I can't help you there, since I think noises for email is an interuption I can't afford.

Gmail does have Atom feeds. Put your Inbox feed in the Desktop feedreader.

aflegg 2006-08-02 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by wki
aflegg: Have you got any idea, when you will find some time for Sylpheed again. We know, it's hard to find some extra time, but all the ggod new things in OS2006 are fine and just lacking a good email app.
Thanks in advance for your efforts.

I'd been half hoping Modest would make an appearance and dazzle us all, and - as with all open source software - it's a case of scratching an itch: at the moment I've no itch to scratch (although the backlog of unreplied to email is mounting up).

Sorry for the delay: I'll try to find time soon.

Cheers,

Andrew

fresta 2006-08-02 13:18

Is there a way to view more IMAP folders than the default ones in the email reader? I have lots of other folders on the server, just being able to read the inbox, outbox, drafts and sent messages is very inadequate for me. My server has a M$ Exchange interface on the web which sort of works but it is a real pain to use on any computer. The Nokia 770 is no worse than any other in this respect.

SD69 2006-08-02 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradpitcher
The only problem is I would like to have near immediate notification when I receive email. I sent an email to the people who do gmailmon for the 770 to see when we can expect an it2006 version. I never used it before, does it play a sound when you receive emails?

I'm playing around and getting used to the app. Minimum autoretrieve period is 5 mins. It does sound off when an email comes in and also the icon changes from grayscale to color. If you don't want sound, then muting the system volume disables the sound (although there is still a faint click).

Also, the autoretrieve works even when the email app is closed which is an unexpected and welcome surprise.

schmolch 2006-08-09 14:18

crap, i dont even get a connection to my gmail-account.
only if i deliberately put an error into the account-setup i get an error, otherwise it just tries to connect forever.
but gmail seems very slow and unreliable for me since many weeks even on my desktop.

good to hear that a sylpheed port is in the works.


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