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blackheart 2008-07-07 14:26

Diablo...worth updating?
 
I am just wondering...is it worth it to update to diablo? I mean...I heard it crashes and all that....but is there any chance of completely screwing up the device(Man, I sound like a noob<wait, I am a noob>. I come from iPod touch where any single jailbreak could be fatal). So, I would like some feedback from the people who updated successfully(and unsuccessfully, I am sorry guys) about Diablo. Is it worth updating?


Thanks!

Few days left until I get my n810!

fmo 2008-07-07 14:53

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
No problems with the apps I use but I had to use the Chinook repository for Extra.

codeMonkey 2008-07-07 17:01

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
I updated, but it still has some bugs that need to be fixed! - Just like chinook had the odd one too. Definitely worthwhile updating though, if only for the ease of updates from now on - WiFi-updatey-goodness!

callanish 2008-07-08 09:18

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
I had lots of apprehension about installing Diablo because I'm not exactly bursting with knowledge had things gone pear shape, but I was actually surprised at how smooth it all went. This is also coming from someone that restored their full backup from chinook and found no issues with Diablo. Have I been one of the lucky ones; I don't know. What I do know is I had a lot of anxiety before the update, but now I'm just kind of relieved and hope I never have to do a firmware flash again now that Diablo has an all new way of providing us with upgrades.

Gorgon 2008-07-08 11:11

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
You look to be in the same boat that I was in. I am a n00b with tablets and received mine only a day or so after Diablo was released. Since you don't have any backups to restore from Chinook and you're getting a fresh N810 then you should be good to go. The first thing I did after opening the box was to download the updater to my PC and flash Diablo to it. The user experience out of the box was great since I really only played with Diablo. A fresh tablet updated straight to Diablo is quick and stable and I've not had a single browser crash on the device. Put your concerns aside and enjoy the tablet when it arrives. :)

Keep in mind that many that have been complaining of crashes appear to have restored a backup and something in that backup is causing an issue. Your fresh tablet will be fine.

rbrewer123 2008-07-09 03:57

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
I upgraded from chinook and restored from my backup. It did pretty well. The browsing speed seems definitely improved, which by itself was worth the upgrade for me. I agree with the others that since you won't have any old settings to lose, it's best to upgrade right when you get the device so you don't waste any time reconfiguring.

maxio 2008-07-09 06:46

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
No tethering with bluetooth cell has me really disappointed

nikolajhendel 2008-07-09 07:22

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
lots of phones work with bluetooth - I use it all the time. The breaking point is whether the phone supports DUN.

Gorgon 2008-07-09 14:06

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxio (Post 200792)
No tethering with bluetooth cell has me really disappointed

Tethering is supported and works fine on my N95 8GB.

virx14 2008-07-09 14:13

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
I did not notice any problems with tethering after I upgraded to Diablo. Using AT&T Motorola V3xx if it matters...

zehjotkah 2008-07-09 14:15

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
for me the time how long the battery last has reduced...
therfore: reflashing chinook. to make chinook as smooth as diablo just go into red-pill-mode und update the operating system in program manager.

Benson 2008-07-09 15:30

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
I seriously doubt that upgrading to Diablo via unsupported and hackful SSU from Chinook will have any difference in battery life.

For my (anecdotal) evidence:
I used:
  • Chinook on internal flash: Good battery life.
  • another Chinook on the SD: Good battery life.
  • pseuDiablo on the SD: Good battery life.
    (There was not, among these 3, any discernable difference in ordinary usage; I didn't do any actual tests with reproducible load, though.)
  • Debian on the SD: I never used it long enough without rebooting to draw any conclusions.
Now I've got:
  • Diablo (released) on internal flash: Good battery life.
  • Chinook on the SD (clone of the previous Chinook/internal): Good battery life.

I don't see any substantial difference, and there's no reason there should be. However, almost all of these installations occasionally had severe battery drain, when I accidentally left some process stomping at 100% CPU; metalayer-crawler (until I disabled it on each installation, of course) and the browser were the most frequent offenders.

IcelandDreams 2008-07-09 20:55

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
I'm pretty sure that my gradually decreasing battery life is due to age and not the OS. I grew up being told that batteries should be nearly drained before charging and thus the fewest charge cycles. Come to learn that these batteries prefer charging every chance you get. No complaints about that.

The easier app upgrades and lack of any major difference elsewhere has me voting yes, love it. Diablo didn't fix the things I was hoping for but it didn't break anything I've noticed so I'm not unhappy with the flash.

hmm, make that a vote for updated, but it still has some bugs that need to be fixed! Still looking for XMPP fixes and the mystery A2DP function.

salida 2008-07-10 16:11

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
i like diablo. some bugs have to be fixed.
i would like to see more option.

more option (with GUI) on how i like the menu
more option on how i like the wallpaper
more option on how i like the theme
more option on how i like the icons...

i love customizing ...but give us the options

JeffLuszcz 2008-07-12 06:24

Re: Diablo...worth updating?
 
Just upgraded my n810 last night.
Saved my settings / apps, reflashed to diablo and installed my settings / older apps as prompted by the upgrade process.

Some hiccups along the way. For example all the original mp3s, desktop patterns and document files reappeared (not too much of a surprise) but I ran out of space when reinstalling my apps.

Some weirdnesses involving the Modest app wanting to be upgraded ubt failing (I've fixed that now)

Some weirdnesses with application hangs (I had to pull the battery twice now)

The GPS with AGPS does seem to work MUCH better for me.

Reinstalled Debian, works okay once I installed the extra hildon packages which seemed to get lost in the upgrade. Symptom was that the IceWM window wouldn't go to full screen.

Things seem a little wonky still, I find the repository management and application upgrade process pretty clunky.


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