[Debian] Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Ok, sorry about the topic.. I couldn't resist. (for those that don't know - (almost) every app in KDE starts with K).

So... You downloaded and installed Deblet (you know.. that totally awesome debian for your tablet?) and you saw the great post made by b-man and your first thought was "Gosh.. that's cool and all... but I want my KDE!:(".

Well.. here you go (I assume you are root for all commands listed):


Are you someone who wants stuff to just work ??? Don't want to deal with bugs or quirks and report them to the developer(s)? Then normally KDE 3.5.9 would be for you. It is the 'stable' KDE version. Unfortunately; and I will warn you now - KDE was not designed for a screen this small..and this really gets in the way. But that won't stop you now, will it?;)

First things first...we need to prepare our debian's apt for getting KDE.. so the file you want to edit (use your faorite editor; vim, nano, emacs, whatever) is /etc/apt/sources.list. If you accepted all the defaults during Deblet's installation (or you don't know what SID is..) then you have lenny - and you MAY be good to go... but check anyway:

Lenny
SID -for those that enjoy the unknown...
Now that apt has some new repositories to get all our goodies from...

Woohoo! More programs! Ok.. moving on:

For BIG KDE
Wow that was long, eh? Yeah... kde in debian doesn't have an 'easy' all-in-one package like gnome.. But kdebase does get most of it... I just added missing pieces. This will take approximately 409 MB of space. This will also install Samba for you; and it will ask (during installation) for a SAMBA config like WORKGROUP, and whether you want samba to pull WINS information from DHCP... this is windows stuff; if you don't know what it is - accept defaults.. if you do; you'll know what you need to answer :).

For baby KDE
Whew.... that was easier.. and will only take a whopping 216MB (or so) of space! Of course the downside... the easy network tools didn't load for these - so network setup will be more difficult.

Now we wait.... When it is done you may see an error while installing a package called 'fam'. If so this is fine.. the start/stop daemon didn't work because the system isn't fully booted. Before we fix this we need to first fix KDM so those without a keyboard can see their desktop!

The file we are looking for is:
/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc

Now this file is HUGE... therefore I won't cause an already insane post to be longer... these are JUST the changes:

Note: Changes are bolded. All these options are IN THE FILE ALREADY... you do not need to add any of them.. just find them and change them. Replace the "user" with the name of your Deblet user. Remove any # signs at the beginning of the line of these values.

Reboot your tablet and you should get directly into KDE - you will know because KDE launches a 'Setup Wizard' (n800 users see the big red note on the bottom)

Now once you are fully booted you need to open a 'Konsole" window and run the command:
This will finalize the installation of that package now that /dev/pts is available. (you won't get this error if you used qole's Debian Chroot to initially get to your debian in maemo; because he mounts the /dev/ devices for you.)

And thats it for KDE 3.5.9 .... Enjoy.

Warning N800 users: Even tho we bypassed the kdm login.. KDE still launches a "Setup Wizard" the first time a user logs into kde. You can click the X to close it.


First.. let me make this clear... I recommend you do not install KDE 4.1.0 on your tablet. It is slow, bulky and just a pain to use. It took me 3-5 minutes to launch the built-in file manager Dolphin.. and unlike OpenOffice that works once it's loaded; it still took half a minute just to click on anything inside the dolphin. It's just slow. BUT - If you must.. then you will be needing My Apt Repository. You will also need to add the experimental repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
Once that is added it should be as simple as
Your kde4 file to edit will be in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc I believe and the options will be the same as above. Other kde4 optional packages are:

So How is it?

Ok; I was a little harsh on KDE and I'm starting to warm up to it now that I am going through all the threads here

Qole thought Gnome's Dialogs were bad? AT LEAST screen rotation woks right. I have attached a screenshot of the screwup KDE does. The task bar; if left on the bottom covers half the screen. So you have to put the bar on either side or the top. AND to top it off the wallpaper doesn't rotate with you!!!

Now.. none of the screens in KDE fit our tiny tablet either - but a nifty trick in KDE is if you hold down the Menu key (the top one on the left side of the screen on an n810) while dragging a window - it will move the whole window... this allows you to view the entire configuration screens without messing with rotation.

Also.... if you haven't been following along then you may have missed the cool trick about GTK... add the following to your /home/user/.xsessionrc file and right click will work for GTK applications.
And make sure it is installed:
Now.. Gnome is entirely built on Gtk; so this hack effectively enables right click for all normal Gnome apps;and many third party GTK apps... BUT...KDE is based on QT... and I have not yet found a hack like this for QT; which essentially means that none of the KDE apps have a right click. (however; GTK apps like epiphany will still work).

On the other hand.. Penguinbait - being the awesome dude he is has provided a script that should hopefully allow right clicking in KDE.. I have yet to try it and will update when I do. While I still prefer not to have to click a button to change my mouse every time; at least the functionality exists.. so I'll be happy with what I can get.

I still get very annoyed that the wallpaper does not resize when you rotate.. half your screen is just empty space; it's usable - but no wallpaper is on it. I have pm'd penguinbait to see if he has made any other changes to his KDE version on Maemo.. My ultimate goal is to help you setup Debian's KDE to function pretty much exactly like Maemo's KDE.. that way you can have KDE on both; with no learning curve!

Special Thanks: The entire Deblet Team for their awesome work on the Debian OS side of the house. B-man for the motivation to do this. Qole for his input and knowledge; and Bensen and Qole for their chroot scripts and environment. Also Penguinbait for the easy to use DEB's on dual booting and cloning; and all of the KDE work he is doing. And you.. for reading this ridiculously long message :D.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

You may want to indicate that apt sources are set up already usually but maybe document the structure as to add 'experimental' and such - so people don't blindly add additional mirrors and confuse apt :)

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

The default sources.list that deblet provides is only (for sid):

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid main

which leaves a LOT to be desired...default debian provides a lot more repositories than just main. Adding contrib and non-free should not be detrimental and provides access to a good number of new software..

You're right that experimental is a bad idea but you DO have to say -t experimental before apt will even try to load it.. and since I haven't gotten to 4.1 yet that section still needs documentation.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Sweet!!, congratulations man, The next time i re-install deblet i will definitely try this out! :D

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Well... it does not appear 4.1 will be available soon; there are several dependency packages that have not been put into the armel repositories... a good example is kwrite... if you scroll to the bottom it will show you available architectures .... i dont even see arm on many of these... so... while its not impossible - it would require building a good number of dependencies from source. I will keep looking into it but I dont foresee an easy way to do this until someone that is good at making .deb files comes along and ports these missing dependencies to armel.

I did follow all the way through the 3.5.9 setup and it should wok perfectly.. any problems feel free to ask... I will update the 4.1 section when it is possible to do it an 'easy way'.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

I may have spoke too soon... as soon as I hit the 'submit' button I remember apt allows you build source packages on the fly... and kwrite and the others I was looking at are available in the source repo's.... I'm running a complete apt-get -t experimental -b source on all the kde packages now.. i expect this to take some time.. will post when it's done.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

If there's no Debian package for an architecture, there's usually a good reason ;)

I don't expect your build-from-source technique to work; on the other hand, if it does, that would rock. I should just give xmame-sdl a try that way to see if I can get it building...

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Well.. it tooke 18 hours to build kdebase-workspace on that blasted tablet LOL. But it finished just now.. I ran a dpkg -i on them and still have dependency problems (even though the compiles worked fine?) ..

So I still have some trackign down to do... I suspect I may end up having my own copy of every kde4 deb from scratch that I'll have to upload to get kde4 to work with these tablets.

Feel like hosting for me? :)

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Just an Update (not that this thread has really generated any interest.. and this is probably all a huge collossal waste of time :D)..

I finally got kdebase-workspace 4.1 completely installed and all it's dependencies with no problems.. (had to compile the entire kdebase-workspace from sources).

Now I am working on kdebase itself.

kdebase-runtime is already installed when kdebase-workspace worked correctly.

that will give the whole "kde4-minimal" package and the very basics of the kde4 system to being functional.. then I'll start working on all the extras.. like kdegames, kdemultimedia, etc.

Looking through the repo's I'm going to have to be compiling a bunch of those as well... this will take a very long time to get a complete KDE 4.1.. Definitely going to need hosting space..

Does anyone know how to setup an apt-repo?? maybe we can make our own "itT" apt repo and things like penguinbaits deb's, qole's deb's, etc could all be put inside of it..

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Ok.. updated the OP... I finally got the components for kde4-minimal compiled and installed and they all "work"... but I didn't hot link them for two reasons:
A) This thread hasn't really generated any interest :D
and
B) The 4.1 KDE just isn't very usable on our 400mhz ARM. Everything moves so slow... and this is WITH 600mb swap and the 128mb internal RAM... Dolphin took over 4 minutes for me to load it all the way.. and then just clicking on "details" instead of "icons" took 30 seconds to a minute for the screen to update.

It sure is 'pretty'... although I don't like that they are moving towards some kind of red headed step-child cross between MAC OS X and Vista... but some of the graphics are really quite nice.

But what good is a spiffy looking desktop that doesn't do anything?

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Thanks for the monumental effort. Don't give up. Lots are interested, it's just that the new Diablo update killed everyone's dual boot, KDE, Debian, etc... Once they all including me get it sorted out we will join in. I did manage to move all my easy Debian apps to a new menu I call Debian(see screen shot below). I did it with the advise everyone on Debian team has given me. Now once I get my rotation, mmc speed and KDE loaded and put into it's own menu I can begin gnome Debian and then your KDE(hopefully V4 :) ). TIAAttachment 2317

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

You really wanna try V4 KDE?? It runs pretty horribly when I am booted into it... I can't imagine what it'll run like in the chroot setup...

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Dan: please, where can I get the 'screenshoted' theme? (http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...1&d=1218862037)

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

bubacoo,
I started with Nuvoclear 2 and added Munky261 taskbar icons(see show off your screenshots at http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=5014&page=71, then I went into settings >control panel >panels>applications organize. Getting the apps into your own menu is hard because you have to configure each app to go into your specific menu. My next goal is to get the menu see through so I can see the background image and have the menus float in front of image.

fatalsaint yeah I do. I'm sure you and Qole and the rest of the bunch will speed it up. It's the future of this platform. You guys are on the very bleeding edge of Internet tablets. Can you imagine if and when Nokia ever releases N900 with a faster processor and graphics card! :)

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Fatalsaint I'm ready to try KDE v4. I want to put it on my mmc1 with Easy Debian. Will I be able to view kde v4 in a window like Easy Debian? Also I have 1gb of swap memory and the card is a 16gb class 6. Will using the 48 speed mmc card enhancement and the the large swap and class 6 card help speed KDE v4? Where is repos and is there a step by step for Easy Debian? I'm unclear about steps. TIA.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

No I haven't done a step by step for Easy Debian because I don't use it.. I use Deblet =-(.

There have been several explanations (Qole - might want to make a new thread for "Running an Alternate Window Manager" for your chroot).. I had a basic one here.. and qole has outlined the steps more fully in other posts.. but essentially:

You would take my .deb files (actually Im hoping to have a apt-repo done sometime tonight/tomorrow) and install kde4 in a debian chroot.

Then you would have to copy (still in debian chroot) the /usr/bin/xpice (xpgnome for gnome) (I think that's still the right path; qole?) to a new script called, say, /usr/bin/xpkde4:
or then you would edit that file and find where it launches the window manager.. if gnome it will say "gnome-session", icewm will be "icewm-session". Change that to say "kdeinit4" I believe.

Then copy your /usr/share/applications/hildon/debwm.desktop and edit it to run the new command.

Qole showed how he got Gnome working and what to do .. just change it for KDE.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Don't do it, Dan! There's better ways to spend your time!

Stick to KDE 3. Seriously. Fatalsaint just about gave himself a concussion, banging his head against the KDE4 wall, and after all of that, he said, "don't bother!"

That's good enough for me....

Please! Think of the children!

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Yeah.. 3 times now I keep going back hoping I was over-exagerating...

3 Times I got tired of using it and reloaded. I mean.. since he has 16GB of space and is apparantly not using it.. it's great for a "HAH! Check this out".. but honestly; You gain nothing by using KDE4 .. and in all honesty you lose productivity because it runs, by far, slower than any alternative presented yet.. KDE3, Gnome, IceWM, XFCE, Window Maker.. you name it.

For the most part.. except for the gittery "I did it!" attitude... it simply isn't worth it. But I knew someone was going to want it.. that's why I continued porting all the binaries I could. kdeutils, kdeadmin, kdeplasma, and a few others worked great. But I'm stilly missing a few.. kdegames and kdetoys being among them. And since I'm not using it anymore I haven't put a lot of time into them because they return coding errors; or segfaults in the middle of compiling.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

I have PB's great KDE v3 port and its awesome. Can any of you see if you can get him to port it to Easy Debian or do a similar port to hildon. I strongly believe the future is in a window environment that allows you to seemlessly go between environments like Easy Debian(BTW Qole when will your full blown version come out??? and can you add rotation and speed kernel? Qwerty's is good also that naotime thing that Brontide does). We need to get the mmc cards to do what the Nxx chips can't. I just wish I wasn't such a newbie at all this. BTW what is Gnome? and can it be used inside of Easy Debian? or does it reside outside of Debian? Also does it use a window environment like Easy Debian?
The speed gains I had last time I used the 48 mmc speed with 1gb swap and class 6 card gives me the hunch that this will help KDE v4 increase it's speed. That setup also allowed me to run several apps simulteously. I think it will work. I know it will work. I just need a lot of help to do it right. I'll be a tester yet!
Look I travel all the time for work this is my only hardware. I want a devise I can slip into my pocket and do many many computer stuff with. I just hope that Nokia adds a 3g phone, bigger chips set, graphics card, more ram, hdmi port, two usb ports and two sdhc fullsize cards oh and real GPS chips. TIA

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Dude..you are confusing the hell out of me...

A: 'Easy Debian' does not use a kernel.. enhanced or not. it might come with one.. but it's never active; you don't boot into it.

B) KDE, Gnome, and IceWM are window managers... that is all. They simply organize and manager a desktop for you... by desktop i mean wallpaper; application menu, task tray, etc... it really has nothing to do with what applications run.

C) There is no point for Penguinbait to "port" his KDE3 to "easy debian"... it came on debian before his port to maemo.. If you want the KDE penguinbait uses... follow my instructions for KDE 3.5.9 - not KDE4; KDE4 is entirely different.

D) Gnome is just another window manager like KDE and it runs on TOP of debian.. so Yes - it will run inside Easy Debian as long as you follow the steps to run it's session manager.. Any how to you see for Deblet should work for Easy debian because they are both Debian...

I dont think I fully understood your questions... but hopefully these answers help..

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

I don't know the terminology my bad. :) I just want to have it all in one easy to use setup. I only want to boot in once at startup and then go from my custom menu into different apps from different environments. IceWM is about as far as I want to go as far as window manager and only because I can switch back to Hildon easily. PB KDE is too far in that I'm out of Hildon. That is why I'm keen on putting KDE on Easy Debian. I want to add KDE v4 because I have v3 already. Now if I'm understanding you correctly KDEv4 will be completely separate from Easy Debian. Same goes for your Deblet. I want to install your Deblet last to it test out Debian apps. It seems like it has a more natural environment(like PB KDE) in that Hildon is not really using a lot of power to keep to environments going at same time. Also your Deblet has unlimited growth potential if understanding you. I hope this better explains what I'm after in the long run.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

you're still confused... there is nothing loading deblet is going to give you that easy debian wont provide unless you plan to boot into debian. Debian is debian.

KDE4 is still a window manager just like KDE3 By different I meant it looks and feels completely different ... but it still isn't "ouside" of anything.

with easy debian you only have 2 environments.. Maemo, and Debian.

Everything is going to run inside either debian or maemo..

So you can run gnome and kde on the same debian at the same time. However you won't be able to run kde3 and kde4 at the same time on the same debian because they have packages that conflict with eachother because one is an upgrade to the other.

You can make ANY window manager show up and run just as flawlessly as what you are caling "Easy Debian"; which is actually just icewm... all you have to do is modify the scripts to launch the different window manager and it'll run it just as seamless as your current setup.

There is no reason to load Deblet unless you plan to boot to it.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

So in keeping with what your saying I can eventually have the following setup. MMC2 with Dual boot with partitions for PB KDE, Deblet and KDEv4. MMC1 Easy Debian with Gnome, IceWM and your KDEv3. Is this correct. I just want to map it out before I begin. TIA

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

yes except that PB KDE still requires maemo... so you'll need to clone diablo or chinook to whatever partition you are going to use for PB KDE.

By "Deblet and KDE4" i assume you mean Deblet WITH KDEv4 ..

Then yes.. 3 partition on MMC1; 1 swap, 1 Diablo with PB KDE; 1 Deblet with KDE4

All MMC2 with Easy Debian on it.

In all honesty though.. I wouldn't do that. If you want to boot to debian - just use deblet.. don't use 'easy debian'. You can setup qole's sripts to use Deblet to integrate into the Maemo environment.. So you would have

MMC1 with Swap and Diablo with PB KDE
MMC2 with Deblet and Gnome, Icewm, and KDE4.

There really is no point for a whole debian just for a KDE since PB KDE gives you KDE3 in Maemo... that also allows you more room for both maemo and debian for apps and anything you do while booted into debian will carry over to your maemo debian (since they are the same debian)..

did that make sense?

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

MMC1 with Swap and Diablo with PB KDE
MMC2 with Deblet and Gnome, Icewm, and KDE4.
I need to reverse the MMC's because I need to be able to easily remove, copy and rebuild the Debian side. The Diablo side is stable and can stay put in MMC2. MMC1 I'm use for Camera and so forth and then putting it back in when I want to transfer stuff. I've been doing this for a year and it works great. I have one of those N800 that the back battery plate never sits right and if you remove it the card does not mount properly. Whenever I do a dual boot I need to remove the plate during the process. That's one of the reasons I put Easy Debian in MMC1.
OK so now I need to use Qole's scripts to install Deblet. What thread has Qole's script for installing Deblet and running it like Easy Debian? Then I will need to load KDEv4 and last Gnome. Does that sound right to you? TIA

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Qole's script don't install deblet.

You need to install deblet via the installation instructions at Deblet's website.. linked in my Sig, in the OP, and in numerous threads in Debian :D. The only thing I recommend is after you SVN the installer (as per the website), alter config.py and change nit-env-stskeeps to just nit-env-x .. that way you will install your own window managers since you don't need XFCE.

Before installing deblet, you need to copy the "Easy Debian" /usr/bin/xpice script .. save it into maemo somewhere before you do anything to the "easy debian" side. (from maemo: cp /debian/usr/bin/xpice /home/user). After deblet is installed you will copy that script to /usr/bin in Deblet so that the Launch icons and stuff will still launch Icewm. (cp /home/user/xpice /mnt/deblet/usr/bin).

Once you have Deblet installed you you need to do 3 things:
1)ALTER /home/user/.chroot in maemo and set the variables to the right parameters (the partition you installed deblet too, and the username). Then qole's scripts will mount Deblet instead of the Img file and will launch things from Deblet.

2)You also need to manually install Xephyr, wmctrl, icewm in Deblet... (simple, just apt-get install Xephyr wmctrl icewm). Make sure you are using the latest scripts by Qole in his thread.. he made them "Deblet safe" by not killing the passwd files.. which comes up now

3) Edit /etc/passwd and /etc/group in Deblet.. find the line for user:1000:1000 and change the 1000 to 29999 (both of them).. save both files.. and chown -R user /home/user (if you didn't use the username "user" during the installation of Deblet, replace for your username in these.)

It sounds like a lot when you list it.. but it's really quite simple.. I can help you through PM's if you need.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Thanks.
I'll try to start on Monday when I have some free time. It will also give me time to read through Deblet site and Qoles thread. This is exciting. TIA

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Ok updated the OP....now that my repository is online I went ahead and put the kde4 crap up there... installing kde4 is now easier than installing kde3 thanks to the kde4-minimal package by the debian guys.

If you wanna play with it be my guest just dont complain if it runs too slow for youj :P

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

I just installed KDE 4.1 to my easy debian chroot, and i need to say thai i like it.

Of course it is not so fast as IceWM, Window Maker, or even Gnome, But in chroot it is faster than in deblet.

It takes less than 90 seconds to start with chroot and xephyr.

Fatalsaint said in first post that in deblet, it tooks 3-5 minutes to start Dolphin.
In chroot is starts in 50 seconds.

It is still too slow for unpatient people, but its so cool!

Attn Fatalsaint
 

Hi:
I followed the instructions at the deblet website. However, when I ran cfdisk, in the advanced, I got a "fatal error," had to reboot and the deblet didn't install. Could you help me, please?
Thanks

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Ihad same problem with my deblet installer. Use your computer for partitioing, and use GUI-deblet-installer

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=23051

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

I have been playing around with my KDE 4.1 chroot and guess what, i have 500mb swap space in my internal memory-card, but my tablet never used it.

WTF?

http://deweb.olen.in/evo/no-swap.png
http://deweb.olen.in/evo/no-swap.png

if it's possible to run kde 4.1 whitout swap... What it will be WITH swap.
This is just totally AWESOME!!!
http://deweb.olen.in/evo/kde.3gp

Thank you fatalsaint
Thank you Qole
Thank you Stskeeps
For helping me!

Thanks for EVERYONE who made this possible!!!

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Could you please explain this in more detail?
How do I use my computer for partitioning?
Where/what is GUI-deblet-installer?
Thanks

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I am just learning english, so i hope you can understand what i type.


1. Plug your tablet to your computer with usb cable.

2. If you use ubuntu or other debian based linux you can install gparted -partitioing software by typing "sudo apt-get install gparted" to the terminal.

2. If you use windows use google to find partition editor for your system.

3. with gparted or similar software, you can partition your memory card. First create a small fat partition (50-100MB) then create BIG ext2 or ext3 partition and then create 254mb swap at the end of the drive.

4. install stskeeps software to install deblet. Use "i have already done it" when it asks about partitioing

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

So, can someone explain how to make my tablet to use it? :confused:

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Meiz:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...5&postcount=21


Im gald you like your KDE.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

That doesn't surprise. KDE 4.1 feels a lot slower on normal desktops too! Compared to KDE 3.5.x or Gnome.

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

it is true that kde is slower.

It is just so cool...

Re: "
 

Which partition do I install deblet in?

Re: Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet
 

Well... thats interesting to know... i hadn't actually used KDE4.1 on a full machine yet...