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MicroChip123 2008-08-13 11:15

N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
I bought my n800 about 2 months ago and it was the best £150 I have ever spent. But a month ago one of the stylus started to scratch the screen very badly so I started using the spare one. Now the same has started happening on the spare one, after looking at them the damage on the tips it is identical for both. I think the tip is scraping when it is in the stylus holder.
What are my options to fix this?
Can I just get a new screen protector and put up with it?
Get a new stylus (I can’t find any for sale anywhere)?
Fix the scraping in the holder?
All of the above?

Your help will be much appreciated as I am using my ds stylus.

jackdoor 2008-08-13 20:38

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
I think ive got the same problem scratches are appearing for no apparent reason, does anybody know if theres a way to remove light scratches?

geneven 2008-08-13 20:45

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Have you removed the original screen protector that comes with the device? If you haven't, it's possible that you are seeing scratches on it rather than on the device.

Karel Jansens 2008-08-13 21:36

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If the scratches are on the screen and not (as geneven suggested) on the factory applied plastic, a true screen protector often does miracles in hiding blemishes on the screen.

I strongly advize against any "chemical" solutions out there (pastes, oils, whatnot) as they essentially sand your screen down. This is not a good idea when your screen is a touchscreen, as there are oh so many ways this can go tits up.

More so, if the touchscreen doesn't have a top (antiglare) layer, the odds of success are stacked against you. With Newtons e.g. it was possible to sand down scratches with furniture polish by essentially removing the entire top layer, which served as antiglare and tactile texture; I don't think the nits have such a layer.

MicroChip123 2008-08-13 22:25

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
the scratchs are on the original screen protector that came with the n800
so are you sugesting that i get a new screen protector and put up with the scratching?

Karel Jansens 2008-08-13 22:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroChip123 (Post 213487)
the scratchs are on the original screen protector that came with the n800
so are you sugesting that i get a new screen protector and put up with the scratching?

I've had a protector on my N800 practically since the day I bought the tablet in early 2007. It's still the original protector and there's not a scratch on it. Granted, I'm probably slightly more anal about the screens of my gadgets than the typical user, but still... I'd call that a pretty good record for protectorkind.

The "protector" that came with your tablet, isn't. It's just there to protect the screen in transit, it was never intended to be "used", so to speak. At best, it will be usable (for various values of "usable") for a couple of months of light use.

geneven 2008-08-13 22:46

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I have permanent scratches on my real screen, which I am sorry about, when I remember to be. They really aren't that bad. But I wish I had gotten a real screen protector. Now it's too late.

Screen protectors seem to have varying degrees of usability and ease of application, so you might search for information on which are recommended. I remember seeing threads on that subject.

By the way: It is really difficult to scratch the real screen, and I think that real screen protectors are also difficult to scratch. I had to go the limit to scratch my screen. I think it involved dripping some honey-like foodstuff on it, which I quickly wiped off, but which bonded with my much-worn lower right secton of the screen.

MicroChip123 2008-08-13 22:54

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
thanks for your help
but i still have 2 stylues that the tips are damaged and they are scratching the screen
(i am using my ds one but it does not go in the side holder)
can you buy them anywhere in uk?

speculatrix 2008-08-13 22:57

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fives months of moderate usage and the factory-fitted screen cover is now visibly marked, but if I turn the back-light off it's not too bad. I'm about to buy a proper screen protector for it.
I've always fitted SPs to my handhelds - palms, zauruses etc. they're a silly price for just a sheet of sticky-backed plastic, but you'll kick yourself if you don't fit one. Wife has a palm tx and didn't bother, and she's got a nasty biro mark in the middle of her screen now. sigh.

geneven 2008-08-13 23:05

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MicroChip:

Have you read Moby Dick? That's what searching for a stylus replacement is like -- only a few tablet users have gotten them, and they are now walking with peg legs.

If I were you I would forget thinking that you have a stylus problem -- your stylus is succeeding in scratching cellophane, basically. Just get a real protector and then complain if the stylus is scratching it; it shouldn't.

Karel Jansens 2008-08-13 23:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by speculatrix (Post 213497)
they're a silly price for just a sheet of sticky-backed plastic, [...]

If that sheet of plastic goes for more than a year without a visible scratch, the price somehow doesn't seem that outrageous anymore. I've tried DIY protectors, but never managed to get more than a few weeks of useful life out of them.

I now use a Schutzfolien24 protector, but I still think the NuShields are the best and they now (finally) have Nokia models. NuShields don't have adhesive backs, but cling to the screen all by themselves. They also have great writing feedback, which -- due to the abysmal HWR of the Tablets -- is obviously of limited use.

bfleury 2008-08-14 00:11

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The "factory provided" screen cover actually isn't a screen cover at all, just a cheesy piece of "shrink wrap" like you peel off of many things these days. Get a real screen protector, like the Boxwave Clear Touch. As for your styli, any dirt or grit on the end will do a number. Take a good look under a hand lens - if there are any small imperfections causing the problem it should be possible to buff them down.

megabyte405 2008-08-14 04:14

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I have the boxwave anti-glare for my N800, and not only does it work well, I think it improves the stylus and finger experiences - it feels emotionally safer to touch the screen, and the screen (since it is no longer glossy) "sticks" less to your desired pointing object.

MicroChip123 2008-08-14 10:14

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ok reading this i need a new screen protector but on amazon there are lots

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_...tector&x=0&y=0

nu screen protectors are £6 for 2 + £2 shipping to the uk = £8 for 2 screen protectors

so £4 for 1 screen protector thats alot of money but are they worth it

bfleury 2008-08-14 14:30

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Most definitely, that buys a lot of peace of mind! But don't cheese out to save a few bucks, Boxwave product ($12.95) is far superior to those shown on the page you linked. A bit fussy to install, but I've managed a couple of them. Once on, they are invisible, and (VERY important with touch screen) do not mess up the tablet's responsiveness and add no nasty chemicals etc.

jackdoor 2008-08-14 14:58

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Quote:

ok reading this i need a new screen protector but on amazon there are lots

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_...tector&x=0&y=0

nu screen protectors are £6 for 2 + £2 shipping to the uk = £8 for 2 screen protectors

so £4 for 1 screen protector thats alot of money but are they worth it
I would also like to know what screen protectors on that page are worth buying, will the cheap ones do the job?

megabyte405 2008-08-14 15:01

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I got the "nice" one - $12 (effectively 6 sterling excluding vat) for a single protector from BoxWave. I've used it for over a year - it's designed to be usable for a very, very long time, you can even take it off and wash it with soap and water. It's way better than the cheaper protectors I used to get in packs (Fellowes WriteRight, anyone remember those?) for my Palm devices that looked like crap about 10 minutes after you put them on.

MicroChip123 2008-08-14 18:46

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so its a choice between a nu screen protector and boxwave
which one shall i get then?

geneven 2008-08-14 18:50

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Got a coin with heads and tails on it?

jackdoor 2008-08-14 20:23

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
I also wish to have advice about screen protectors, is it worth getting the cheap ones or spending money on a good one and also what one to get.
The link posted earlier has some cheap ones and some higher priced ones but could somebody tell me what one they think is best.
Heres the link again.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_...tector&x=0&y=0

Cross 2008-08-14 20:56

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Hmm, if you are daring... (and CAREFUL!)

You could take those Stylii that you have that are scratching the screen and hold the points to a lighter flame (probably not in the flame but close, and be sure to rotate it in you finger-tips as plastic goes to liquid and will want to drip) just long enough to melt the tip. Give the stylus sufficient time to cool down and set-up that should give you back a nice smooth surface.

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megabyte405 2008-08-14 22:20

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I'd say, get one of the name-brand expensive ones, not the multi-packs. If they're not designed to wear out, they don't, it seems.

Benson 2008-08-14 22:47

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Well, I've only had it on for a few weeks, but I went Boxwave Anti-glare, and am very happy with it.

I'd initially (for about 6 months) been of the who-needs-a-screen protector camp, and mainly had no trouble, but as time passed, I realized I was careless more often than I had thought, and wasn't improving. I moved to the wish-I'd-gotten-one-before-it-got-scratched camp, but finally I went on a spree and bought two new N800s (a refurb, and a very lightly-used), and bought a half-dozen boxwaves; one for each tablet, and some extras. Can't comment on durability yet, but sunlight readability now exists, and everything but the car-keys gouge (:o) is completely hidden; the boxwaves have a silicone rubber backing, which not only allows multiple application attempts, but also fills scratches excellently. The stylus works flawlessly even over the still-visible gouge.

It's never too late!

jackdoor 2008-08-15 09:08

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
Thanks Benson, I decided not to scrimp on the price, but there are lots of screen protectors for around the same price, so im getting the exact one you suggested for my n810.

MicroChip123 2008-08-15 09:39

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
thanks so looking at it i should get a box wave

and for melting my stylus i dont think thats a good idea

geneven 2008-08-15 10:31

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I like the idea of melting the stylus tip, and wish I thought my one remaining stylus needed it.

jackdoor 2008-08-15 10:55

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
Does anybody know how to get boxwave protectors in the UK?

bousch 2008-08-15 16:05

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You can order directly from the boxwave site. I ordered some other stuff from them and they shipped it to The Netherlands.

EDIT: Just saw they have a 3-pack for $27.95 and shipping outside US and Canada is $7 which makes $ 34.95 or roughly GBP 19 or EUR 24 which is not too bad...

italodance 2008-08-19 12:22

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well

go and buy a PSP screen protector

cut it and use it for ur device


i have it about 5 months and it's the best protector:D

Karel Jansens 2008-08-19 12:45

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by italodance (Post 215244)
well

go and buy a PSP screen protector

cut it and use it for ur device


i have it about 5 months and it's the best protector:D

I tried one of those and for some reason my D-pad went berserk until I took it off again. If you're cutting protectors to size, be very precise.

Also, the PSP does not have a touchscreen; I wonder if this makes a difference for the quality of its screen protectors.

italodance 2008-08-19 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 215254)
I tried one of those and for some reason my D-pad went berserk until I took it off again. If you're cutting protectors to size, be very precise.

Also, the PSP does not have a touchscreen; I wonder if this makes a difference for the quality of its screen protectors.

yes it's very precise and standard for me! :)

and be sure just try one! it's very good for IT! Both touch screen and stylus is working very good for me!

go to one of the psp stores and request it for ur IT,just say To cut it For ur Screen size and
precise,The seller can do it for u ;)
stylus and none of sharp things can't scratch it! :cool:

btw with it's (PSP) Textile you can always clean ur device

jnack95 2008-08-19 15:31

Re: N800 Stylus Scratching Screen
 
I would abandon the stylus (you can send it to me as I've lost mine and they are only sold at the same store that sell Duke Nukem Forever) and use a toothpick stuck into a coffee straw (make sure to put a bend into it). It is much easier on the screen and fits into the fabricated slot. Just PM me to get my address.


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