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moshing 2008-08-28 22:22

can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
i remember readding a thread that suggested it wass posxlble to turn a tablet into a pc, but i cannot find that thread now. can anyone point me in th e right diirection or let me know that it was all a dream and this webbsite has made it into my dreams?

going off on a little tanjent, has anyone ever had a dream that a website apeared in?

thhanks innocence advance

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ddw

fatalsaint 2008-08-28 22:31

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "into a pc".. it is a PC.. a PC with 400mhz ARM processor and 128MB ram.... but:

You can hook up external Hard Drives.. can even make it Mobile
External Keyboards and Mice also work..

You can also make it a server

And there is preliminary support for going to a monitor

Does any of that help?

smackpotato 2008-08-28 22:38

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
i think it was thoughtfix who did some stuff with the 770, but the n810 is more or less self contained comparble to the eee pc or apple air.

moshing 2008-08-28 22:40

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
what i mean by turning it into a pc is to have the start buttom in the bottom left hand side and fog it to operate like my home pc.

Decade 2008-08-28 22:55

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
No.

Because it runs a pretty open distribution of Linux, the Internet Tablet can be used as a Linux PC, but it can't run Windows or other software compiled for x86 processors like what are in most desktops and laptops.

For that matter, it also can't run closed Linux programs that are available only for x86 processors.

moshing 2008-08-28 23:01

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
i must have been surfing this site internet a dream. thanks. i was sure that someone had made a tablet 'look' like a pc

fatalsaint 2008-08-28 23:10

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Well yes you can make it 'look' like a PC.. you can load debian and modify gnome to 'look' like Windows XP...

That doesn't mean it'll actually OPERATE like your Windows PC... thank heavens...



It'll be better :D

eliagp 2008-08-28 23:12

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
You probably saw a youtube video that played with rdesktop.
http://tabletblog.com/2007/01/770-fu...dden-hack.html it was a joke of sorts but it can be done to a point. You need to have an actual pc connected to your tablet (can't use the pc while you do) and you better have a bt keyboard. Otherwise you can use a vnc server, wich takes control of your pc, but letting you use it anyhow. (rdesktop looks Way better) Hope it was what you'de read.

ghassane 2008-08-28 23:41

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moshing (Post 218761)
i must have been surfing this site internet a dream. thanks. i was sure that someone had made a tablet 'look' like a pc

Thoughtfix was joking and saying that he installed windows xp on it but at the end, he clearly says that it's only a remote connection to a Windows PC, that can be done with rDesktop.

eliagp 2008-08-28 23:55

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
oi, just what i said.......... ^^. rdesktop works GREAT on my home network, but accesing my pc from the intahnet has been far more of a challenge. not sure if its the router, but even with ports open its a no-no. logmein works, but its way slower, and lets face it, uglier.
:D hints and tips will be gladly taken.

ghassane 2008-08-29 02:34

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eliagp (Post 218782)
oi, just what i said.......... ^^. rdesktop works GREAT on my home network, but accesing my pc from the intahnet has been far more of a challenge. not sure if its the router, but even with ports open its a no-no. logmein works, but its way slower, and lets face it, uglier.
:D hints and tips will be gladly taken.

+1 Same problem here too :(. No connection from outside my LAN.

danramos 2008-08-29 03:08

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moshing (Post 218761)
i must have been surfing this site internet a dream. thanks. i was sure that someone had made a tablet 'look' like a pc

When you say 'PC', you need to remember that it means 'Personal Computer'. Any personal computer is a PC. Mean what you say, say what you mean and all that. If you're asking something, it's confusing if you didn't say what you really meant.

If you mean running x86 software and OS's (like Windows).. as-is, no.. it won't do it. People HAVE managed to get Windows 3.11 running on the tablet using DOSBOX (very, VERY very slow).

People mentioned rDesktop, but yeah--that's not really running on the tablet.. you're just remotely controlling a Windows box over the network.

If you mean simply LOOKING like a Windows interface, there is the Windows Vista theme that you can install to get the sort of look and feel of Windows Vista. There was also a similar old Windows XP theme too.

If you mean running the same Linux as on your desktop (Ubuntu, Debian,Red Hat, etc.). You'll need to remember that this device is an ARMEL processor and you would need a copy of that OS with a kernel and apps compiled for ARMEL CPU with those heinously closed drivers to support the Nokia tablet hardware.

moshing 2008-08-29 10:10

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 218766)
Well yes you can make it 'look' like a PC.. you can load debian and modify gnome to 'look' like Windows XP...

That doesn't mean it'll actually OPERATE like your Windows PC... thank heavens...



It'll be better :D

thank you, you have a wonderful way of wording your wisdom.

qwerty12 2008-08-29 10:13

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eliagp (Post 218782)
oi, just what i said.......... ^^. rdesktop works GREAT on my home network, but accesing my pc from the intahnet has been far more of a challenge. not sure if its the router, but even with ports open its a no-no. logmein works, but its way slower, and lets face it, uglier.
:D hints and tips will be gladly taken.

Maybe you could set up a vpn?

brendan 2008-08-29 12:35

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
even though you opened the port 3389 for RDP on the external interface of your router, you have to make sure you forward that port to the computer you want to connect to via RDP. that pc should be set to a static IP, too. not sure if you did that.

also, what ip/hostname are you using from outside your LAN? did you setup a DynDNS name? that makes things easier.

Also double check that the windoze machine you are connecting to is accepting connections on RDP ports, the service is started and no local firewall is blocking the connection.

fatalsaint 2008-08-29 18:04

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moshing (Post 218864)
thank you, you have a wonderful way of wording your wisdom.

Example:
http://gnomestyle.blogspot.com/2007/...ike-vista.html

That makes gnome look like vista... there are similar things to make it look like XP... check the debian gnome thread here and you'll see I made my tablet 'look' like a Leopard MAC OS X using the Mac4Lin tutorials.

But again... 'looking like' and actually 'being' are completely different beasts :D.

If there is enough interest in Debian Gnome looking like XP and Vista I will set it up on my tablet and show some screenshots. Post a how-to if it deviates too much from the already released how-to's (the Mac4Lin did not.. so I didn't find it worthy of Yet another How to).

I hate windows though ... lol. I won't do it unless people ask >.>... I'd feel dirty.

eliagp 2008-09-10 02:50

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan (Post 218892)
even though you opened the port 3389 for RDP on the external interface of your router, you have to make sure you forward that port to the computer you want to connect to via RDP. that pc should be set to a static IP, too. not sure if you did that.

also, what ip/hostname are you using from outside your LAN? did you setup a DynDNS name? that makes things easier.

Also double check that the windoze machine you are connecting to is accepting connections on RDP ports, the service is started and no local firewall is blocking the connection.


Check, check and check. The port is quite open and forwarded to my pc. setup a dyndns account and got the updater. I can enter tversity from the internet, but the remote desktop has been more web shy. No firewall problem i know of either.....maybe some other option in the router? I have been meaning to try with only my pc connected to the modem, but that usually gets my router unstable for a while, so i haven't made time to try.

ghassane 2008-09-10 03:41

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eliagp (Post 222549)
Check, check and check. The port is quite open and forwarded to my pc. setup a dyndns account and got the updater. I can enter tversity from the internet, but the remote desktop has been more web shy. No firewall problem i know of either.....maybe some other option in the router? I have been meaning to try with only my pc connected to the modem, but that usually gets my router unstable for a while, so i haven't made time to try.

+1
I have an account in no-ip, with software updater on my vista desktop. port forwarded but nothing.
Still same problem. Perhaps a problem with Vista? not sure.

eliagp 2008-09-15 18:02

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ghassane (Post 222560)
+1
I have an account in no-ip, with software updater on my vista desktop. port forwarded but nothing.
Still same problem. Perhaps a problem with Vista? not sure.

I use XP. I think the problem is with the router, but again, i can't be really sure,

eliagp 2008-10-16 08:29

Re: can i turn my tablet into a pc?
 
Ok, so I decided to try VPN. It took me all night to get it right and now its working (i think) so....what should I put in pyrdesktop options? not really sure after all the messing around XD.


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