The stupidest move Nokia could make
 

I have been thinking about how I will be one of the first to buy the next NXXX device coming out since it will have 3G.

Im just assumming that it will have cellphone capability however lately it occurred to me that this does not have to be the case. The best case would be a sim slot where 3G would be provided from ATT or TMo network which would allow cellphone calls also.

Nokia could instead though, like OQO, provide 3G capability via a sim card minus cellphone capability.

This would force use to use Skype which is very expensive if everyone you call is not to another Skype user.

This would be a horrible move on Nokia's part and would result in continued slow sales for NXXX.

I mean how can you have such a powerful OS like Memeo but leave out the one piece that would result in millions more units sold.

I guess we will have to see what happens.

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I think you missed a few posts around here, Anthony.

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Why do so many of you assume Nokia wants to dominate the cellphone market with Maemo devices and sell billions of N900s?

Couldn't it be they only want to make the best device for an attractive niche market?

Or couldn't it be they want to keep Nxxx-devices away from the mainstream because it's meant for a time when the market changes completely?

Fanboys need high sales figures. Nokia doesn't - yet.

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I thought a week ago the stupidest move they could make was leaving out 3g? Now, because they didn't make that, something else becomes stupider just to take its place? :confused:

I'd say the mistake you're supposing they might make isn't really it; the mistake is including the WWAN hardware as an integral part of the tablet, not a separate module. If it was a separate module, people could install whatever card they liked, and you'd have to stop trolling find something other than WWAN to troll about.

But just a couple points here, because even trolls shouldn't starve.

• It wouldn't force anyone to use Skype.
  • There are other, and better, VoIP options than Skype.
  • It wouldn't even force anyone to use VoIP -- there are other options, like affordable watchphones with lousy data connectivity (which would no longer be an issue with data on the tablet), or ordinary phones. Or not making voice calls on the go -- some people actually don't have cellphones, you know.
• Skype is not horribly expensive compared to cell rates.

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Texrat, sorry.

Catch me up please. I sneek online at work, do somethin, and then quickly log off so no none sees me online.

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For a start, read the mammoth Maemo 5 thread.

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I don't think I buy that--as I recall seeing your name on some relevant threads (the 'What would you realistically like to see in an N900?' comes to mind immediately). For reference: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...archid=3187289

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"This would force use to use Skype which is very expensive if everyone you call is not to another Skype user."

It costs me $30 a year!! Just for people in North America!

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Man, I feel your pain. Sucks to have such expensive service...

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Benson, you are the biggest troll in this forum. A troll posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]

Benson, this is you. 100%.

For example, your post above:

"But just a couple points here, because even trolls shouldn't starve." (insulting and trolish.)
and
"there are other options, like affordable watchphones with lousy data connectivity" (are you an idiot and a troll?)
and
"not making voice calls on the go -- some people actually don't have cellphones, you know." (yes its clear you must be an idiot and a troll)
and
"Skype is not horribly expensive compared to cell rates." (just do the math bimbo for calling a landline during the week from 9am to 5pm.)
and
"the mistake is including the WWAN hardware as an integral part of the tablet, not a separate module. If it was a separate module, people could install whatever card they liked, and you'd have to stop trolling find something other than WWAN to troll about." (you have developed emotionally no further than my 10 year old son)

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benny1967, are you a solcialist and think Nokia is socialist also ? You think they do not care about profit and just put out devices for fun ?

If Nokia doesnt do something soon about marketshare and profitability they are going to die.

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Probably. They'll die any minute now. Their tiny market share shows they simply don't understand the mobile business and never did.

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Given my experience (three times now) with their lack of post-purchase support for replacing, repairing or making available parts for repairing their products, I, for one, am in deep agreement.

My BH-501 BT headset cracked right where people have been saying they crack all the time. I called Nokia's support number and they told me that they don't warranty physical damage. I had just bought these about two weeks ago and because of a badly designed piece of plastic, they're virtually useless now and Nokia has offered me a 15% discount on $89.95 for a product I had purchased for a less than $65.

I think I'm finally done with Nokia altogether, now. I ended up picking up a pair of Phillips BT headphones (I've had GREAT experiences with their products overall) today to replace my BH-501 and I'm going trough my favorite shoppings sites to point out my disappointment and to warn people to be careful about these physical defects and Nokia's policies.

If there's any 'stupidest move Nokia could make', it's that they don't seem to care about their brand's reputation for making easily breakable products (again, this is the third item that has damaged under normal--not extreme--use).

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You may be sure I'll take your constructive criticism as seriously as I ought.

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huh ?

whatduh ?

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Personally, I prefer using SIPphone (Gizmo)... MUCH cheaper and since it's standard SIP... over-the-Internet calls are free between any number of carriers.. not just a Gizmo-to-Gizmo only thing like Skype has going.

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I have to check this out. What about calling landlines ?

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Its not free.

Its 1.9 cents per minute.

You can talk all night for free (9PM to 6AM) and all weekend long using Tmobile.

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True, calling outside the Internet (POTS, cellphones, etc.) will cost--but you're not limited to ONLY calling other Skype customers. You can pretty much dial Internet-to-Internet free using SIP protocol to any server that's doing SIP without it costing a dime since your software connects straight to the server you're communicating to as opposed to a common carrier that has to then connect you along even further.

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Calling any landline in the US (even non-Skype landlines) costs me $30 a year. It costs more if you don't pay by the year.

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Quite honestly, i prefer to keep the phone part out of the tablet and just use a cheap cellphone to complement. there are situations, where I wouldn't want to take the much bigger tablet out to answer a phone, or take it with me for that matter. If I go to the mall, i won't be using it so the phone will suffice. Sometimes its plainly dangerous, like answering in some buses within my city (they would take it from in a second), or taking it to places where it could get wet ot dirty.

BTW, calling Benson an idiot and a troll is quite uncalled for. I know that he has always been helping people around here, and using good manners, so please don't make this forums an unpleasant one to roam. If you don't agree with what he says please use arguments against his arguments and not against his person. Even if you think he was being "trollish", aswering in the same matter only looks childish.

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I wholehearted agree with that sentiment. If it MUST contain a radio, at least made it a standardized cartridge or card add-on or something. But it MUST be cheap, open and future-facing in design. I'd rather just use the Bluetooth since it's cheaper and easier to implement, under the circumstance, than a cartridge.

Not to mention he didn't call me anything! I feel insulted. :)

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:D Go to youtube, and post something slightly controversial. that should do. I actually don't mind trolls, but this is the first forum where i have felt really a part of a community, and have been really active, and it gets me on defensive mode. I hope i don't sound too serious. English is only my second language so i tend to sound a lot more serious than what I really mean. :p

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How soon?

I may need to update my resume.

Benny was being sarcastic.

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thanks for the laugh! :D Really, its not like nokia is an inflatable boat, going down just because 2 or 3 guys aren't getting new tablets. Customers usually have power only in big numbers (or in the US, trough a couple of lawsuits)

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No he wasn't!!! NO HE WASN'T! [read: call me names] :)

Sad thing is, it prompted me to rant without intending to be sarcastic, though. But yeah, I know HE was being sarcastic. :P

I, on the other hand, speak English as my primary language and I appear to ALWAYS come off as sarcastic. As posted elsewhere.. maybe it's because I'm American. ;)

Was that sarcasm? WHOA! There I go again! :D

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I hereby name this thread the Troll Thread of the Week.

You know, its highly possible that by the time the "N900" or whatever comes out, a service like GrandCental will become free (Probably with ads), or never come out of Beta. For those who do not know, GC is a service that shadows calls from one "GC Number" to multiple phones (Including SIP). For FREE. That's right, Free landlines and cellphone.

Oh, and don't yea know, OpenMoko is going to take over the market. Its a fact.

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Well, I don't know, apparently landline calls are free in the US? For me Skype is cheaper than anything else (local calls included). I bought credit for 10 euros and it seems to last forever.

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"It's easier to be a jerk to words than to people" xkcd comic. seems appropiate
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/internet_argument.png