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A2K 2008-10-27 01:26
Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Got it working.

used cacao + microemulator.

it works perfect on my mobile phone with 70 MHz cpu, but it is too slow on n810.
could not wait anought to load it.

scr: http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3125/scrwd8.png

so, can it be cacao problem or i just need better j2me emulator?

allnameswereout 2008-10-27 03:59
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
What is cacao?

Are you sure you don't want the Mobile version?

mscdex 2008-10-27 05:29
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 236882)
What is cacao?
cacao is a JVM.

JeffLuszcz 2008-10-27 06:22
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
I wonder what it's equivalent speed would be under the "Easy Debian" layer?

pieter_jh 2008-10-27 08:14
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Opera Mini for the N810 would be amazing. The speed of the thing is what makes it so great.

rwijnhov 2008-10-27 08:40
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
This is great news. Any of the specialists here that can help?

meizirkki 2008-10-27 09:51
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
where did you get microemulator from?

aiken 2008-10-27 10:32
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
http://www.microemu.org/maemo/

A2K 2008-10-27 15:37
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aiken (Post 236937)
great link!
i did not know about JamVM working in maemo.

Can somebody create packages with JamVM, Jikes and MicroEmulator?
I just don't have time to configure sdk enviroment.

for running opera mini i used allready compiled microemulator from http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...ckage_id=21993 , but it is too slow (maybe just becouse cacao) and can't be fullscreened.

A2K 2008-10-28 20:30
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
compiled jamvm and jikes for maemo and created packages.

could not get microemulator-maemo sources, cvs does not work (or i just don't understand how it should work).
it is here:
http://microemulator.cvs.sourceforge...icroemu-maemo/
but how to get it?

A2K 2008-10-28 20:39
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
nevermind. got sources. packages will be ready in few hours.

any volunteers for testing?

A2K 2008-10-28 21:13
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
can't build classpath 0.97 - looks it does not support jikes.
will try later with older version.

Jaustin 2008-10-29 21:02
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
I'm willing to test when you get it up and going.

qole 2008-10-29 23:16
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffLuszcz (Post 236898)
I wonder what it's equivalent speed would be under the "Easy Debian" layer?
The problem is that Easy Debian provides Sun Java SE, not J2ME.

If there were some way to run this in "standard" java, that would be cool. But it seems you need this extra JavaME emulation layer... On top of Java (we don't have any hardware Java accelleration), that's going to make this stupidly slow. I mean ssssslllllllooooowwww

Use Epiphany (Gecko) or Midori (Webkit) if you want a fast browser on the tablet and you don't mind using Easy Debian to get it.

qole 2008-10-29 23:59
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Just for fun, I ran http://demo.opera-mini.net/demo.html in the Debian Kazehakase browser.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/...28edf19c_o.png

Opera Mini, running in J2ME, running in Sun Open JDK, running in Kazehakase, running in Debian, running in Maemo. Sweet! :D :D

It isn't the fastest way to browse the net. :p ;)

Can someone explain how to download and get the microemu layer to run from the standard Debian command prompt? Pretend you were going to run it on a regular Linux computer running Sun Java.

qole 2008-10-30 21:53
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Ok, so I figured it out how to do it through Easy Debian. And it isn't actually that slow. But with so many good browsers for the tablet, I'm not sure why I'd use Opera Mini, except just to see what it's like.

I will gladly expand on any of these steps if anyone shows any interest.

(0. Install and download Easy Debian stuff)
1. Download MicroEmulator, untar somewhere (I put it in /media/mmc2/java/microemulator)
2. Download Opera Mini, put it somewhere (I put it in /media/mmc2/java)
3. Start Easy Debian as user by running "debbie" from the command line.
4. Not sure if this is necessary, but I did this:
Code:
CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/media/mmc2/java/microemulator
5. Run Microemulator
Code:
cd /media/mmc2/java/microemulator
java -jar microemulator.jar
6. Choose the "resizable" device to get full screen (no fake phone picture). Open the Opera Mini .jad file. I had to try twice; the first time the install stopped, but the second time it worked.
7. Browse the web on Opera Mini.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/...65e9aba4_o.png

EDIT: Problems that I've found:
1. Really doesn't want to be full-screened. Even the Easy Debian fullscreen hack doesn't fullscreen it; I had to run "wmctrl -a microemulator -b toggle, fullscreen" to get it to go fullscreen.
2. Text entry is weird. I couldn't get it to do the _ character, you can't highlight text, and it can be tricky to figure out where your cursor is.
3. Password fields are not obscured.

Benson 2008-10-30 22:14
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
The (allegedly) awesome thing about Opera mini is not just basic proxy stuff like recompressing images, etc., but also dishing up the whole page, images, etc. through one connection to beat latency. So for those with high-latency mobile connections, it could help.

Of course, there's disadvantages too, both technical and privacy. I'm likely to give it a shot, though.

qwerty12 2008-10-30 22:43
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Wheeee, thanks. I like Opera Mini, after using it on my phone.
Though, I prefer the opera mini mod though:
http://opera-mini.ru/last.html

A version older (3 compared to 4) but vastly superior imo.

gogol 2009-08-16 02:58
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
This is painful. Possible, but painful. Now does this run MIDP apps? As in Google apps?

Joseph_741 2010-04-20 13:42
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Can anybody tell me how to type texts in edit boxes? When I enter text and click "ok" button, nothing happens. I can't even return back to the previous page. It's the end of the world!

qole 2010-04-21 16:22
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph_741 (Post 619378)
Can anybody tell me how to type texts in edit boxes? When I enter text and click "ok" button, nothing happens. I can't even return back to the previous page. It's the end of the world!
I shall save your world from ending! ;)

You need the new MicroEmulator 3.0 snapshot. Get it here:

http://snapshot.microemu.org/microemulator/download/

ToJa92 2010-04-21 16:38
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gogol (Post 312096)
This is painful. Possible, but painful. Now does this run MIDP apps? As in Google apps?
I'm think Opera Mini IS a MIDP app, but I'm not entirely sure...

zabishah20 2010-06-03 10:12
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
@ qole
hi dear. sorry to bother u, but i am just a new guy having less knowledge about it.
would you mind to guide me how to rotate micro emulator in portrait mode?
a brief illustration would be highly appriciated
zabishah@hotmail.com

zabishah20 2010-06-03 10:13
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
@ qole
hi dear. sorry to bother u, but i am just a new guy having less knowledge about it.
would you mind to guide me how to rotate micro emulator in portrait mode?
a brief illustration would be highly appriciated
zabishah@hotmail.com

qole 2010-06-09 23:25
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
zabishah20: This thread was for the Nokia N800 and N810. They had a custom kernel and a widget for rotating the screen. If you wanted to force-rotate the N900's screen, I guess you could use xrandr...

doctorwhiz 2012-04-09 00:01
Re: Opera Mini 4.1 for Maemo
 
pleace is their any handler opera for n900


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