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Karel Jansens 2008-12-02 21:04

3G-to-Wifi
 
http://www.slashgear.com/huawei-d100...twork-0224894/

Just in case anyone was interested. It only works with 3 Mobile tho'...

fpp 2008-12-02 21:28

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Another way is to use a 3G+Wifi phone with a software router like Joikuspot on S60 or its WinMo equivalent. I do it on my E51 just for fun sometimes :-)

TA-t3 2008-12-09 14:27

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Heh, I did the same thing with a USB dongle and a wi-fi router with USB 2.0 :D

allnameswereout 2008-12-21 16:24

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
JoikuSpot is essentially some kind of proxy IIRC.

If you can run the WLAN chip in AP mode its dead easy to do this with some firewall rules (NAT) provided the OS can do this. Nothing fancy about this...

ertszi 2008-12-21 18:04

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Here in Finland we have this thing called mokkula (3g usb dongle)
We can connect to internet whit mokkula many ways. PC being the traditional way.

Similar device that 3 mobile has (Huawei D100):
http://www.dna.fi/Yksityisille/Matka...lakkaD100.aspx

Router that supports USB- and PC Card devices TeleWell TW-3G-USB
http://www.telewell.fi/english/tuotteet2.php?tuote=16
3G OR Flash-OFDM list of devices http://www.telewell.fi/supported_hw.pdf

Wippies HomeBox similar to FON (moded A-link ADLS box)
http://forum.wippies.com/wiki/Homebo...stallation_ENG

Still none of these are portable so mobile phone whit bluetooth or wlan is the best partner for Nit. Unless somebody figures out how to Nit could host Huawei e169 like many linux distross already do for example Ubuntu:
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-858032.html

Lord Raiden 2008-12-21 19:11

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7093705543.html

I think you'd be better using this. I've already been exploring this as an option, and so far it's been quite nice. :)

fpp 2008-12-21 19:53

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
So it's already the first half of 2009 where you live ? :-)

allnameswereout 2008-12-21 21:39

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
DIY PCEngines alix.6b2 AMD Geode, miniPCI express (e.g. for 3G), miniPCI (e.g. for WiFi), on-board serial (RS232) and 2x 10/100 ethernet. Nice boards, good price, low power for x86, and hardware cryptography (AES-128) :cool:

Texrat 2008-12-22 03:42

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Raiden (Post 251498)
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7093705543.html

I think you'd be better using this. I've already been exploring this as an option, and so far it's been quite nice. :)

Ooo... that's getting close to my mobile server wish...

Lord Raiden 2008-12-22 15:03

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
lol. Glad you think so texrat. As soon as they're available (in a few weeks I believe) I'm going to be putting in a request for one for testing. Should have my 2c available on my site shortly afterwards. Of course, I may have a nice preview of the unit even before then if they show up at CES like I expect them to.

allnameswereout 2008-12-22 15:56

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Yes, consider me interested into that as well.

JaikuSpot (S60) costs 15 EUR.

WMWifiRouter (Windows Mobile) costs 23 EUR.

They won't be nice to the battery of your cell because you use both 3G and WiFi. They both can only do ad-hoc. They only do unencrypted and WEP. No WPA whatsoever.

FWIW, Wayfinder updates work.

tz1 2008-12-31 16:10

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Raiden (Post 251498)
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7093705543.html

I think you'd be better using this. I've already been exploring this as an option, and so far it's been quite nice. :)

I think I mentioned elsewhere that I use a Cradlepoint PHS with EVDO modem. You can't buy the above device yet but probably soon, and it has integrated 3G (instead of an external modem - upside is it is smaller and runs longer, downside is that you can't change carriers).

Evdoinfo / Evdoforums has good coverage of EVDO (and 3G in general)

The Novatel Mifi (the device in the link above) thread:

http://www.evdoforums.com/thread11008.html

verumgero 2009-03-11 13:32

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

The Novatel Mifi (the device in the link above) thread:

http://www.evdoforums.com/thread11008.html
Someone just mentioned the mifi in a different thread and so I did a search and really didn't find much. Am I the only one who is pretty pumped about it?

Lord Raiden 2009-03-11 18:38

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
I'm hugely pumped. The question though is how long it'll be before Novatel can get someone to bite on this.

And PS: To the OP who mentioned about the mifi being locked to a single carrier, the sucker is powered by Linux, which means it'll take about 2 minutes for a good Linux nerd to figure out how to unlock it, or else reflash it with a new IOS that allows carrier portability. ;)

johnkzin 2009-03-17 13:27

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Re: Mifi

According to this article, Sprint (in the US) will have it in 2Q 2009.

I was just thinking it was about time for me to buy a Cradlepoint Router... but 2Q might be close enough for me to wait to see if Verizon or AT&T gets the Mifi as well (because then I can get work to buy it and pay the monthly fee on it).

Lord Raiden 2009-03-17 17:00

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
johnkzin: lol. Sneaky. :D

But yeah, that's good news. Hopefully the data plan on that is good, otherwise it'll just be a waste of time. :(

johnkzin 2009-03-31 12:22

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
According to this, Verizon _will_ be getting it as well. But no release date given. (it does have a VERY brief user manual though, and appears to require windows or mac for doing the device setup via the Verizon management software)

If Maemo and Google Voice play together really nicely, then the mifi could (effectively) turn your N810 into a mobile phone, if you're so inclined. I'm tempted to start working with Google Voice on my N810 (which I haven't used since Sept/Oct when I got my G1), just to see how well that all comes together.

SD69 2009-03-31 12:30

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 276024)
According to this, Verizon _will_ be getting it as well. But no release date given. (it does have a VERY brief user manual though, and appears to require windows or mac for doing the device setup via the Verizon management software)

My concern is that VZW throttles the throughput speed. They currently limit BT tethering on their EVDO phones to 480kbps.

johnkzin 2009-03-31 12:38

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
The apt comparison here isn't what they do with BT tethering, but what they do with their data cards. Do they throttle their USB and Express-Card devices to some particular speed? And if so, what speed?

Lord Raiden 2009-03-31 16:36

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
You're complaining about 480kbps? Pfft. My DSL connection isn't much faster than that. Besides, when you're on the go you can't expect blazing speed across your wan connection. So 480kbps is fine with me. What I'm most concerned with is the bandwidth cap. While 480kbps isn't a problem, a limit of 5-10 gigs would kill me, because I could hit that in a few days. :(

EDIT: Ooo. The MiFi has a swappable battery. Hmm. That could hold some interesting potential. You can also plug it into a power source and recharge on the go. Nice. :) Now the only other question I have is how long it'll take before someone figures out how to unlock this so we can go anywhere with it. :)

SD69 2009-04-01 00:01

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 276029)
The apt comparison here isn't what they do with BT tethering, but what they do with their data cards. Do they throttle their USB and Express-Card devices to some particular speed? And if so, what speed?

Why do you think that is the apt comparison?

johnkzin 2009-04-01 00:07

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 276254)
Why do you think that is the apt comparison?

because it's essentially a cradlepoint router with the USB modem or express card built in.

SD69 2009-04-01 00:51

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 276256)
because it's essentially a cradlepoint router with the USB modem or express card built in.

I meant to say that they might limit the speed of the WiFi connection.

SD69 2009-04-01 02:57

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Raiden (Post 276101)
You're complaining about 480kbps? Pfft.

No. What I don't like is that, in addition to other anti-competitive policies designed to foster a closed network, they take various action to discourage or outright limit tethering to devices that they haven't approved for use on their network.

Lord Raiden 2009-04-01 03:09

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
You mean they limit devices they haven't figure out how to use to rob you blind. *rolls eyes*

johnkzin 2009-04-01 03:11

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 276307)
No. What I don't like is that, in addition to other anti-competitive policies designed to foster a closed network, they take various action to discourage or outright limit tethering to devices that they haven't approved for use on their network.

Considering Verizon isn't GSM...

how do you get a device onto their network without their approval? aside from hacking into their (IMEI?) database to insert your device's IMEI number into the list of approved devices?

SD69 2009-04-01 03:19

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 276314)
Considering Verizon isn't GSM...

how do you get a device onto their network without their approval? aside from hacking into their (IMEI?) database to insert your device's IMEI number into the list of approved devices?

You don't. What's your point?

johnkzin 2009-04-01 03:33

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 276317)
You don't. What's your point?

I read your statement backwards (thought you were referring to them limiting the speed of "phones" that they hadn't approved to have on their network, not "laptops/pdas/nits/etc."). Sorry.

Lord Raiden 2009-04-01 05:49

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
No, you don't hack in and get your IMEI onto their network. What you do is get your phone or 3g device unlocked, and then you get them to register it as an existing device on their network through the normal means. :)

johnkzin 2009-07-28 14:39

Re: 3G-to-Wifi
 
btw: there's now a NAM 3G GSM version of the Mifi (no word yet on which carriers will pick it up, and whether it's AT&T/Canadian vs T-Mo-USA, and whether or not it'll have European 3G, and how many GSM bands...etc.).

Novatel Wireless Announces MiFi 2372 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot Optimized for North American HSPA Broadband Networks


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