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searcher 2008-12-04 06:55

RAW images viewed on N800
 
I am going to take my Nokia800 on a trip for the first time along with my camera that shoots RAW images. I have read somewhere that the N800 can't read RAW images.

I haven't tried it but would like to know if anybody has tried it before.
My camera has the ability to shoot simultaneously JPG and RAW.

So do you think that I'll be able to view the JPG images, or it will be blocked like the RAW images:(

superstar 2008-12-04 07:13

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
You can install Debian which it will have GIMP, then just install the URaw pluggin to view RAW files. I have not done this so I cannot confirm but it is worth the try. Let us know if you can...

pycage 2008-12-04 07:16

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
I don't see no reason why it should be blocked by RAW. JPG and RAW will be different files on the memory card.
RAW format unfortunately differs from manufacturer to manufacturer.

superstar 2008-12-04 07:16

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by searcher (Post 246773)
So do you think that I'll be able to view the JPG images, or it will be blocked like the RAW images:(

Yes you can view JPEG files without having to install anything, however you might want to check out Quiver for a good photo viewer.

searcher 2008-12-05 02:11

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
RAW can't be viewed from a regular PC it all depends. I will give it a try, but can you tell me what in the world is GIMP

timsamoff 2008-12-05 02:58

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by searcher (Post 246978)
...what in the world is GIMP

http://www.gimp.org/

Open source competition for Photoshop.

-T.

qole 2008-12-05 05:22

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
The problem with Gimp is that, like Photoshop, it is a full photo editing program. If all you want to do is view photos, it is way overkill.

Debian has some other programs for converting RAW to formats that can be viewed by picture viewers, such as dcraw, ufraw, and rawstudio.

The best thing to do is to search the Debian repositories; Pretty much anything you can find in Debian, you can run on the tablet via Easy Debian.

If you need to download photos from the camera to the tablet, and it doesn't automatically mount the camera like a USB drive, then you will need gphoto2, and that can be tricky to use on the tablet; it is known for crashing the tablet unless used exactly correctly (look near the end of that thread for some tips on using it without crashing the tablet).

searcher 2008-12-05 06:22

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
Actually the only thing that I'm interested is to view the RAW images and then pull the card out and put it away until I get home and upload to my computer, or if I do find a place while traveling I could transfer to a blank CD

I have no intention to do editing etc using the Nokia800

timsamoff 2008-12-05 15:24

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
You should be able to do this just fine. Files are files and you can copy them easily within the IT framework.

-T.

searcher 2008-12-05 19:56

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
I am not sure about that in the Dig photo world RAW images are not easy to be viewed using a standard viewer, like someone said each mfg has its own codes.

Again, my only interest it to view the images, and not to do any type of editing the files are too big, it would take to much time. I'd rather do that when I get home.

qole 2008-12-05 23:31

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
First thing you need to do is find out if your camera connects to the tablet like a drive. Plug it in (you may need to manually put your tablet into host mode) and see if you get the file manager. If not, then you're going to need gphoto2, and things get a lot more complicated.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/...908e66c8_m.jpg

EDIT: The central problem with RAW photos and the tablet is that they tend to be HUGE and can be very difficult for a limited-resource device like the tablet to process.

searcher 2008-12-06 01:28

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
Wow I could have a V8 lol

As a matter of fact, I am planning taking my cable for the first time, since I was hoping to use it if I can get hold of a tv to review the images, but gonna try the way you suggested,

You are very practical indeed. BTW did you read my other posting about the mini keyboard

slick204 2008-12-07 18:02

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
I've used UFRaw and RawStudio (with Cole's Easy Debian) to view and convert raw photos. It is slow though. I just put the memory card from my camera into the external slot on the N800.

Good luck!

qole 2008-12-07 18:15

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slick204 (Post 247575)
...It is slow though...

I've used ImageMagick in Easy Debian to shrink a batch of big 10 megapixel camera pictures down to a more manageable size for viewing on the tablet. It took about 45 seconds per picture to process the pictures for viewing on the tablet. That adds up quickly when you're processing a hundred pictures.

searcher 2008-12-07 19:35

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
Oh thanks, if is going to be too slow then I won't bother because I am going to be on the road, all I wanted was to view the images. I suspect if I shoot RAW+JPEG that I'll be able to view the JPEG images.

Actually, one thing that I have done similar to what you do, is that I convert RAW on my mac, then resized them to email size the upload to the NOkia it takes less mem and still they are displayed very sharp.

Rassilon7 2008-12-07 20:35

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
qole has given you the ideal answer, boot into Debian and run Gimp.

Search google with "Gimp Raw" and you should get some more specific info.

**Don't search google images for "Gimp Raw" you might get something else entirely.

searcher 2008-12-07 20:50

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
thanks guys, I think qole gave me an excellent suggestion, but I think I may have confused you guys. I was referring just to pop the sd card and view the raw images, not interested in converting into jpeg, tiff or manipulate the images just view them.

I need to pop my sd with RAW images now and see how that is going to work.

Rassilon7 2008-12-07 21:08

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
Gimp will let you open the file, you don't have to convert it or edit it.

searcher 2008-12-07 21:09

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
great that makes a difference thanks a bunch

qole 2008-12-08 01:24

Re: RAW images viewed on N800
 
If you want to go with Gimp, superstar gave you the right idea, the ufraw plugin for Gimp.

I just don't think there's anything out there for just viewing RAW, everything converts the raw format first, and then reads the converted image.


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