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Sprint 4g CDMA / WiMax Card!

http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/2...49987/-1/rss01

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Goodbye Xohm, hello Sprint 4G.

Just over a year after inventing a new word for its WiMAX plans, Sprint Nextel Corp. has decided on a name that is easier on the tongue, and eyes, for its next-generation network aspirations.

Sprint Nextel will be serving up its own mobile WiMAX products and services, branded “Sprint 4G,” in its retail stores, the carrier said. And the first dual-mode, CDMA/mobile WiMAX modems will be commercially available as early as the end of this year. The move marks the end of the Xohm brand, which the carrier launched in August, 2007.

Sprint Nextel is offering the mobile WiMAX services under a mobile virtual network operator agreement with the new Clearwire, which recently closed on its formation that included the WiMAX assets of Sprint Nextel and the “old” Clearwire. Sprint Nextel controls 51% of the new Clearwire venture.

The first dual-mode, CDMA/mobile WiMAX modem under the Sprint 4G brand will be commercially available in Baltimore by the end of the year, said Melinda Tiemeyer, spokeswoman for Sprint Nextel. The carrier launched mobile WiMAX services in Baltimore in September under the carrier’s now-shuttered Xohm brand; the launch preceded the closing last week of Sprint Nextel’s mobile WiMAX joint venture with Clearwire.

Sprint Nextel’s “4G” portfolio eventually will include handsets and modems, Tiemeyer said. Further, she said Sprint 4G offerings will include products that can switch between the carrier’s established CDMA network and the mobile WiMAX network Clearwire is building throughout the country. The current Xohm offerings in Baltimore include a desktop modem, an ExpressCard modem and a USB card modem. All of the current devices are mobile WiMAX-only.

‘Clear’wire

Clearwire representatives were not immediately available to comment on the carrier’s planned mobile WiMAX devices. Last week, Clearwire announced it will offer mobile WiMAX services under the new “Clear” brand, which will replace Sprint Nextel’s Xohm service name. Clearwire also announced its accompanying marketing tagline, “Let’s Be Clear.” The service will run on the same mobile WiMAX network as Sprint 4G, with both services possibly being offered in the same markets.

Clearwire is also expected to dip into the MVNO space by reselling traditional cellular services using Sprint Nextel’s CDMA network. Clearwire also offers Voice over Internet Protocol voice service in some of its current pre-WiMAX service areas, but has not commented on whether it would expand the VoIP offering to its mobile WiMAX markets.

Partners contributing the more than $3 billion to the new Clearwire mobile WiMAX buildout are Comcast Corp., Intel Corp. through Intel Capital, Time Warner Cable Inc., Google Inc. and Bright House Networks. As part of their investment, the companies have the option of offering both mobile WiMAX and traditional cellular service using Sprint Nextel’s CDMA network under an MVNO arrangement. Clearwire also said it will receive an additional investment of $10 million from Trilogy Equity Partners in the coming months.

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WiMax isn't 4G. LTE is 4G.

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4G is anything marketing says it is...

and yes, i hate marketing...

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 247301)

WiMax isn't 4G. LTE is 4G.

Sure it is.

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I just like the dual-bandedness.

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I'm missing the deal/promo aspect.

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Originally Posted by tso (Post 247311)

4G is anything marketing says it is...

and yes, i hate marketing...

No, it isn't.

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Many companies have taken self-serving definitions and distortions about 4G to suggest they have 4G already in existence today, such as several early trials and launches of WiMAX, which is part of the formal ITU standard for 3G. Other companies have made prototype systems calling those 4G. While it is possible that some currently demonstrated technologies may become part of 4G, until the 4G standard or standards have been defined, it is impossible for any company currently to provide with any certainty wireless solutions that could be called 4G cellular networks that would conform to the eventual international standards for 4G. These confusing statements around "existing" 4G have served to confuse investors and analysts about the wireless industry.

Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 247374)

No, it isn't.

Next thing you'll be telling me is that IEEE 802.11n has not yet been approved ... :p

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 247374)

No, it isn't.

Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

a article on wikipedia will not stop this from continuing, sadly...

hell, i keep seeing umts and hd*pa talked about as 3G, super-3G or even turbo-3G...

gag me with a phone...

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 247301)

WiMax isn't 4G. LTE is 4G.

No he is completely right. WiMAX does not desginate 4G status, WiMAX is merely a wireless transmission medium. On the other hand XOHM is 4G WiMAX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xohm

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Originally Posted by Andyschism (Post 247420)

No he is completely right. WiMAX does not desginate 4G status, WiMAX is merely a wireless transmission medium. On the other hand XOHM is 4G WiMAX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xohm

There is no "4G WiMAX".

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Many companies have taken self-serving definitions and distortions about 4G to suggest they have 4G already in existence today, such as several early trials and launches of WiMAX, which is part of the formal ITU standard for 3G.

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There is no formal definition for what 4G is; however, there are certain objectives that are projected for 4G. These objectives include: that 4G will be a fully IP-based integrated system. 4G will be capable of providing between 100 Mbit/s and 1 Gbit/s speeds both indoors and outdoors, with premium quality and high security. [1]

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Still not convinced? Don't think anymore. Read the last bold line. WiMAX won't even reach the minimum requirement of 100 mbit. Therefore, according to ITU it doesn't fullfill to be qualified as 4G. Whatever speeds their network can reach internally doesn't matter for the definition either. What matters is what customers interact with (with eventual bottlenecks).

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 247435)

Whatever speeds their network can reach internally doesn't matter for the definition either. What matters is what customers interact with (with eventual bottlenecks).

What are you quoting? Can I see the source?

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Same source as before, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

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Thank you. So what technologies are out that meet the defined 4G status?

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Wow, a battle of conflicting Wikipedia pages. What the world has come to ...

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Originally Posted by mullf (Post 247649)

Wow, a battle of conflicting Wikipedia pages. What the world has come to ...

This is how all wars will be in the future. Armys of editing robots will brace themselfs against legions of revision droids in a battle that even the gods would be envious of. :D

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lets just hope they dont feel like editing out humanity...

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Dont worry its just a thought.

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Perhaps they'll be able to post their battles in the corrrect forum.

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Originally Posted by Andyschism (Post 247645)

Thank you. So what technologies are out that meet the defined 4G status?

You're welcome. AFAIK, none. LTE will.

ITU defines these standards. According to them, EDGE is 3G. WiMAX too. Well, if you compare them with each other. Or HSPA+ with EDGE. WiMAX delivers good speeds (better than current HSDPA/HSUPA), and is all-ip.

So while ITU uses strict guidelines for these definitions it doesn't mean everything. Calling WiMAX 4G is wrong though. Some call the 'better'/'newer' 3G standards like HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+ 3.5G, and call EDGE 2.5G or 2.75G. Also confusing, but in a way descriptive.