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inetken 2008-12-09 17:06

Goodbye my dear N800 (?)
 
Well, if the person comes through with the cash today my N800 will be sold (otherwise it's going on ebay). I love that little unit but I need something new and I don't have the foggiest when or what's in store for the N900 (or whatever it's going to be called). I'm not going to be fooled like Palm when I bought my Zire 71 (my third Palm Pilot) and waited for a successor to the Palm Lifedrive that never emerged.

My only complaint was when I needed a keyboard when I was on vacation and had to send an e-mail. Yes, I could have bought a keyboard or N810, but the anticipation of a N900 prevented me from upgrading. The N800 is a great unit, near perfect for what I need (i.e. I like to have a separate cell phone). Loved all the additional software (ssh, rdesktop, mplayer, games, Palm emulator, Canola, etc.) Now I'm using my iPod touch for video's and internet access. Next I have to decide which Linux netbook I'm going to purchase.

Khertan 2008-12-09 18:10

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... sorry ... there is better whinning ... i couldn't deliver you any awards ...

inetken 2008-12-09 18:43

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Quote:

... sorry ... there is better whinning ... i couldn't deliver you any awards ...
No whinning (not my intention), no real complaints, just don't like being left up in the air. I sort of keeps tabs of this forum, but rather than wait and see what's in store, I'm moving on. Do you think by Nokia not announcing "N900" it would cut into N810 sales? I don't know, I don't know if Nokia just doesn't announce future products. Who knows, maybe I'm screwing up by going iPod/netbook and will wish I had waited for the "N900" when it comes out. I'll deal with that when it happens.

killdeer 2008-12-09 19:27

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Cool story bro.

I'm still the owner of a Zire 71 and waiting for a successor to the Palm Lifedrive.

danramos 2008-12-09 19:54

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I've been holding on to my Amiga 500 all this time and I'm STILL waiting for that new Amiga to come out. :)

qole 2008-12-09 21:08

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danramos: I had the Amiga 2000HD with Genlock. It was better than the 500.

Also, you can always run AmigaOS 4.1 (in stock!) on the Sam440EP.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...migaOS4.1b.png

fpp 2008-12-09 21:08

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Well, the batteries in my Psion 5mx are running low, so they better hurry up with that new model already !...

nikolajhendel 2008-12-09 21:33

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just give us an amiga emulator - I hope omap3 has enough firepower to emulate at 100% speed.

inetken 2008-12-09 22:12

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 248251)
I've been holding on to my Amiga 500 all this time and I'm STILL waiting for that new Amiga to come out. :)

Well I have a Tandy Model 100 that still works. :) Dang, I'm old.

BTW, I'm not holding on this time, just sold the N800. No unhealthy emotional attachments for me:D

danramos 2008-12-09 22:56

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 248274)
danramos: I had the Amiga 2000HD with Genlock. It was better than the 500.

Also, you can always run AmigaOS 4.1 (in stock!) on the Sam440EP.


hahah! I know.. just joking around. :) God, I used to love playing with the NewTek stuff on the Amiga 2000 at one of my old jobs. It was WELL ahead of its time by massive leaps and bounds.

But then, to revisit the topic, similarly there are a lot of people holding onto their old Amiga's and STILL waiting and waiting for Gateway (now bought by Acer, I think?) Amiga computers... and waiting.. and waiting. The OS appears to still be going through some upgrades but even that has hit some snags with legal issues. Man... why can't they let the Amiga just BE an AMIGA and release a computer with an OS, already? Sheesh.

By the by, since we're talking vaporware, when is the next Nokia coming out again?

qole 2008-12-09 23:09

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 248301)
By the by, since we're talking vaporware, when is the next Nokia coming out again?

I hear it will be released a few weeks before the Pandora.

danramos 2008-12-09 23:13

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 248307)
I hear it will be released a few weeks before the Pandora.

Will Duke Nukem Forever be released by then?

qole 2008-12-09 23:20

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Duke Nukem Forever will be an exclusive free game on the first 500 Pandoras.

Texrat 2008-12-09 23:25

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I don't get it. You say it works for you, but you're willing to sell it NOW and wait on the Nxxx?

...

danramos 2008-12-09 23:45

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 248312)
I don't get it. You say it works for you, but you're willing to sell it NOW and wait on the Nxxx?

...

I would suppose that the original poster intended it to be less about functionality and more of a sense of feeling somewhat betrayed by the brand and the promise of the device being 'future proof' (i.e. open-source based) that Nokia kept using in their marketing early on. If Nokia can't make a device that uses open source drivers and open standards to communicate with that hardware, they should at least have the integrity to support their product hardware a bit longer. Particularly stinging for recent N810WE purchasers to read about Freemantle.

I've been very, very happy with my N800--but I got the feeling it's getting kicked to the curb by its manufacturer much sooner than it deserves--I'd argue that's it's certainly too soon for the N810WE. To throw Freemantle porting to the community is to offload all responsibility without giving you all of the drivers and the keys to the kingdom in the older generation of hardware. This can certainly feel like betrayal.

Aw well, as I've said before.. no big deal. I've liked my N800 a lot.. but if Nokia doesn't handle this well, it could be a learning experience that benefits someone else who does it better. My feeling could be wrong, and Nokia might make things alright after all.. but right now, it doesn't seem likely. I hope I'm wrong.

Texrat 2008-12-09 23:55

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I didn't detect that cynicism at all there, Dan. I also continue to think too much is made of the Freemantle issue, and that your sentiments along those lines are making you see something in the OP that wasn't there...

GeneralAntilles 2008-12-10 00:05

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 248322)
I would suppose that the original poster intended it to be less about functionality and more of a sense of feeling somewhat betrayed by the brand and the promise of the device being 'future proof' (i.e. open-source based) that Nokia kept using in their marketing early on. If Nokia can't make a device that uses open source drivers and open standards to communicate with that hardware, they should at least have the integrity to support their product hardware a bit longer.

You do know they released an open source wifi driver for the N8x0 some time ago, right? and that the N900 is shipping with an open wifi driver? I'm not really seeing your argument here.

qole 2008-12-10 00:09

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What? Nothing about the use of the term Freemantle?

As for the N800, I'm recommending a "buy" on that piece of hardware right now. Cheap and powerful!

blowfish23 2008-12-10 00:24

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Have you listed it on ebay yet? I am interested in buying it. What price range would you sell it at?
Kevin

inetken 2008-12-10 00:44

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Originally Posted by blowfish23 (Post 248331)
Have you listed it on ebay yet? I am interested in buying it. What price range would you sell it at?
Kevin

Well, I sold it to one of our student researchers for $130 including the Boxwave leather case.

The reason for my getting rid of it and buying something new is I'm not sure what's going on with Freemantle, N9xx, etc. I mainly just used the device and wanted to know what's next. I wasn't going to wait for another Palm type dropping of the line, if that was to be. Speculation and vaporware drives me nuts. Not that I'm on the bleeding edge, the N810 was out when I bought my N800. So, instead of waiting around, I decided I can watch my videos on my iPod touch and do the Linux thing on a Linux based netbook.

GeneralAntilles 2008-12-10 01:08

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Originally Posted by inetken (Post 248336)
The reason for my getting rid of it and buying something new is I'm not sure what's going on with Freemantle, N9xx, etc. I mainly just used the device and wanted to know what's next.

Fremantle. :) Summer 2009 would be a safe bet.

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Originally Posted by inetken (Post 248336)
I wasn't going to wait for another Palm type dropping of the line, if that was to be.

You can already see the current progress in the Maemo 5 pre-alpha SDK, and Nokia certainly aint Palm.

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Originally Posted by inetken (Post 248336)
Speculation and vaporware drives me nuts. Not that I'm on the bleeding edge, the N810 was out when I bought my N800. So, instead of waiting around, I decided I can watch my videos on my iPod touch and do the Linux thing on a Linux based netbook.

What vapourware? Nokia hasn't promised anything they haven't delivered. The pre-alpha's out and we're already well on our way to the next device. . . .

inetken 2008-12-10 02:17

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 248340)
Fremantle. :) Summer 2009 would be a safe bet.

What vapourware? Nokia hasn't promised anything they haven't delivered.

Summer 2009 is too long for me to wait. That being said, it doesn't mean I gave up on the future device. I'm just going on to my next device which happens not to be made by Nokia.

About the vaporware comment. A generalization on my part, a bit unfair at that. I should have said that I just don't want to wait for whatevers next whenever it appears.


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