Anyone from Silicon Valley ? which store could let me browse N810 or itouch ?
 

Hi,
I'm a newbie in this forum, and have been trying to search around for similiar question. This forum is superb and extremely well organized. It has got tons of info and it is quite overwhelming.
I am trying to get a internet device, narrowing down to N810 or Itouch. I saw there are numerous thread to discuss the two devices, but I wish there is a store that can let me browse / play around the devices, that would be more convincing for me. I'm located in San Jose, CA, USA. The stores like circuit city, best buy, target wrapped up the itouch, no demo set. I couldn't find N810 ! I may have to purchase online. Anyone knows where I could browse the devices ??

I have some questions, hope to get answers from the experts :
1) the finger scrolling on itouch for internet web pages seems impressive, I saw recently, the N810 is able to do finger scrolling, is this N810 new apps/feature come close to that of Itouch ?
2) I am looking for some simple (educational) games such as simple matching, learning alphabets, counting, could anyone let me know which devices of N810 or Itouch has those games ? The games are more for my 4yr old kid.

Thanks !
Richard

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I haven't substantially worked with iPhone/iPod Touch, but as far as I can tell from others' evaluations, browsing is similar in speed on both platforms, but different in feel. The iStuff has somewhat more fluid scrolling and especially zooming, but the N8x0, while less fluid, needs much less scrolling and zooming, because it has 2.5x the pixels. Some people prefer one, some the other. (I, as you might guess, prefer the N8x0.) Trying them both before deciding is probably best; hope you can find one to try.

As for available applications, you can check out http://downloads.maemo.org for descriptions and screenshots of many (but not all) available apps. I'm not watching the edu-games market, but I have seen that there are some out there.

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Thanks Benson for replying. The scrolling I came across is from the Canola http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aQ62...eature=related
The maemo download seems interesting. I wish there are more games like Numptyphysics.

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don't know of any brick and mortar stores with n810, but there are plenty of videos online that will show the n810 in lots of detail doing lots of different things.

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If there is a Nokia Showroom by your place, then that is your best bet of playing with it hands-on.
I first saw the N810 at the Nokia Flagship Store in NY and actually held it and played with it a while before buying it.

As for the iTouch - just to to a Apple store and you can find a unit to play around with.

Ps : Whoops just checked the Nokia page http://nokia.us/A4411001
and sorry, there are only 2 stores in the whole of USA ? Incredulous !

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Thanks Nilchak,
That's a bumper.
It's quite easy to find a apple store near me. But not Nokia. There are tons of carrier stores like AT&T, VERIZON that carries Nokia but all are phones !

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There used to be a Fry's Electronics in Milipitas or Freemont on Mission Court. If the clientele is like it was in 1989-91, I'm sure on a Sunday morning every third geek who walks in will have an iTouch or an N8** (pro'ly both :D ).

People are friendly and mighty proud of their gadgets so they might let you try one out...

I got my first WinSocket from a guy I met there while we were standing in line on a Sunday... back in the day.

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Thanks YoDude,
I just been to a nearby Fry's, but couldn't find N8X0, itouch is wrapped up and locked in window display (like as if it is a piece of gold), wonder how this would encourage sales.
Maybe someone in Silicon Valley who are selling their N810 could let me browse their MID ?

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If you're travelling, you should find one at TigerDirect outlets.
See http://www.tigerdirect.com/retailstores/index.asp and http://www.tigerdirect.ca/retailstores/indexca.asp

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I live in Fremont (and have a friend with a N810 in San Jose), and there are NO stores that carry the N810. Only online...

Apple stores carry the iPod, so no problem there

There is a educational suite available on the tablets. Its really huge though, and I forget what it is called.

<shameless plug>

Also, you can try out ezschool.com. All our games work on the small tablet screen, and they are designed for the younger crowd.

http://www.ezschool.com/Games/index.html

Oh, and please say if you think anything should be made better / if there are any problems!

Re: which store could let me browse N810 or itouch ? download games ?
 

You can try the iphone at AT&T Wireless stores. The itouch is exactly like an iphone without the phone.

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I find there are a lot of electronic stores that carry the N810, most third party cell phones vendors. Well, in NYC anyway. I don't know if they'd actually let people play with it and see how it work.

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possessedskier, the itouch doesn't have a camera.

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or GPS

But it has a better processor and graphics! (than iPhone)

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I had my first chance to play with an iTouch last week at an HMV Music store (in the UK) where they are on display for anyone to play with.

Wow! The screen, the scrolling, the multi-touch, the general attention to detail is fabulous. My first thought was - how will I ever go back to the N800 after this?

But then I got home and got out the N800. That large screen, a highly-functional web browser, yep, how could I ever have thought that the iTouch could come close...

Then I received a 32GB card that I had ordered a few days before. I copied across my 29GB music collection then discovered that the N800 media players don't handle a big collection like that very well. Oh well, I bought the N800 as an internet tablet, not as a music player.

So yeah, if you're in the market for one of these you really should try them out first if you can.

Regards,
Roger

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What program were you using? Curious as I put what I thought to be a rather large collection of music (~2GB) on the external SD and used XMMS to play them with no problem. Just added the entire music directory.

So I'm just curious as to what happened with your large collection. Perhaps metalayer crawler went nuts?

Re: which store could let me browse N810 or itouch ? download games ?
 

Pro'ly has to do with directory size. Break-up your directories if they are over 2GB in size.

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Thanks sondjata and YoDude. I just copied across my iTunes music files (none of them are DRM). Canola won't play the m4a files. Media Player plays them OK in random mode, but if I select "Songs" and start to scroll, it soon crashes (maybe 3500 songs in the scrolling window is too much) - so I don't know how to find a specific song using Media Player.

Nor can I find a way to locate a specific song in MediaBox, except by going into the album. But that doesn't work for me because part of my collection is albums like "25 Years of Rock'n'Roll: 1972" and MediaBox doesn't display enough of the title for me to see whether it's 1972, 1973, 1974 etc.

I'll try XMMS though. Thanks for the suggestion. Failing that, I might even end up using q335r49's "vi hack music player".

Anyway, I'm not complaining. 32GB cards didn't even exist when the N800 was on sale, and I didn't buy the tablet as a music player. I'm just observing that the process is more seamless on an iTouch.

Regards,
Roger

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Thesandlord,
The ezschool website is cool, just what I want for my kids, it is mostly online. Can the N810 run those online games ? It seems to run with adobe flash 9. How's the touch screen with those games ?

Correct me if I'm wrong, the new 2nd gen itouch is still not able to run those flash 9 easily right ? I saw some patches or work-around that says enable itouch to run youtube and flash video, it doesn't seems direct and might not be 100% proven right for all websites ? There are so many flash 9 websites !

It would be nice if there is a N8X0 club in town to showcase the devices (Nokia, Itouch, archos ..etc).

Thanks,

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Yes, the N810 can run all (most?) of the games. They are not very flashy, so no problems with speed!

iPod touch does not play flash. That "hack" seems to be really bad, and its only on jailbroken devices, and probably only video... One of the biggest problems with iPod.

In fact, can you even jailbrake a 2nd Gen touch?

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Hi Roger,
Comparing the single touch function (single selection), which do you think is better (more sensitive) ? The single-touch (resistive) N800 or the Multi-touch (capacitive) Itouch ?
Thanks,
Richard

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Agreed. A very sad thing. A prime indicator of why Nokia's share is declining here.

There used to be Nokia Experience stores, including at least one near me (Dallas area) but they were all closed about 2 years ago. Go figure.