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skatebiker 2008-12-24 08:58

Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
I see lots of posts about 43-7 update but nothing in it what it really offers. When I read posts of people hours trying to fix problems caused by a firmware upgrade, is the update worthwile ?

In Oct I updated to 36-5 flawlessly (with no noticeable improvements) but now I am reluctant.
What does 43-7 offer ?

bunanson 2008-12-24 09:17

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
[QUOTE=skatebiker;252226... When I read posts of people hours trying to fix problems caused by a firmware upgrade...QUOTE]

Not any more, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...d.php?t=25673; and a complete package, with bootmenu and clone, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...230#post252230. And one got to keep their old system if they so choose, dual boot Diablo and Chinook; see previous thread.

I skipped 36-5 because of SSU.

bun

qwerty12 2008-12-24 09:29

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skatebiker (Post 252226)
Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?

Yes.

Also, by not being on the latest firmware, if you choose to file a bug; it probably will not be counted unless you can prove it happens on the latest firmware. I don't, personally, see what you get by using an older version anyway.

skatebiker 2008-12-24 09:53

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
The only reason is that I read many posts from people screwing up their tablet by updates and spending hours to restore things.
How did you update ?

qwerty12 2008-12-24 09:57

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
I was actually lucky this time, this update succeeded for me fine when I updated from the application manager but I have had it fail on me in the past (but I think that was Nokia's fault as they did not do the packging properly then - i.e the user guides stuff).

Jaffa 2008-12-24 09:59

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
I've never had any real problems with the SSUs. 99.999% of users - who don't faff with bootmenu, SD-booting, random hacking of the system libraries (replacing Busybox, for example) - won't have problems either.

Remember two things:
  1. People are more likely to post with problems than with "it worked"
  2. The group posting here are self-selecting power users who are more likely to have tinkered under the hood, as above.

skatebiker 2008-12-24 10:19

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
In the meantime I updated it flawlessly from the App Manager.

fpp 2008-12-24 11:24

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 252235)
I've never had any real problems with the SSUs. 99.999% of users - who don't faff with bootmenu, SD-booting, random hacking of the system libraries (replacing Busybox, for example) - won't have problems either.
Remember two things:
  1. People are more likely to post with problems than with "it worked"
  2. The group posting here are self-selecting power users who are more likely to have tinkered under the hood, as above.

Ditto. My N800 went through all Diablo SSUs without any problems.

Unfortunately, to date none of them have solved the battery life bug, which Chinook didn't have...

fragos 2008-12-24 19:50

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
All the N810 SSU upgrades have been flawless. I haven't messed with the tablet at a system level other than a few scripts. I would think the more vanilla your system the better SSU will work.

n9mjg 2008-12-25 15:40

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
I am yet another user who has NOT had problems with the SSUs.

qgil 2008-12-25 15:56

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 252249)
Unfortunately, to date none of them have solved the battery life bug, which Chinook didn't have...

Which bug is that one? URL please.

sachin007 2008-12-25 17:22

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
With the amount of memory limited to just 256 mb for installation of apps... i would think everyone would be happy to open the hood and look for alternatives like boot from sd and boot menu etc...

So do not assume that most of the it users will not look at alternatives like boot menu etc .. until nokia itslef fixes that.

pycage 2008-12-25 17:29

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n9mjg (Post 252497)
I am yet another user who has NOT had problems with the SSUs.

Same here. I never had any trouble with an SSU.

GeneralAntilles 2008-12-25 17:32

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 252513)
With the amount of memory limited to just 256 mb for installation of apps... i would think everyone would be happy to open the hood and look for alternatives like boot from sd and boot menu etc...

That's a compressed 256MB, so more like 512MB of real storage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 252513)
So do not assume that most of the it users will not look at alternatives like boot menu etc .. until nokia itslef fixes that.

Nobody is "assuming" anything. Unsupported is unsupported. End of story.

Anyway, bootmenu and SD booting don't really cause problems, they just add steps to the update process. The real problems tend to result from developers not being mindful of SSU, users screwing around at the lower levels of the system when they don't always know what they're doing, and Nokia occasionally assuming a few too many things about initial update conditions.

Really, SSU works perfectly for the vast majority of people.

fpp 2008-12-25 19:37

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 252503)
Which bug is that one? URL please.

A good summary of many users' experience since Diablo came out :
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=25683

burnte 2008-12-26 06:44

Re: Do firmware updates (e. g. 43-7) really improve ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skatebiker (Post 252233)
The only reason is that I read many posts from people screwing up their tablet by updates and spending hours to restore things.
How did you update ?

This SSU went perfectly for me. Every one before forced me to do a reflash but this one was smooth sailing. I think Nokia has worked out the big bugs in the SSU system this time. I'm happy.


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