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BrentDC 2009-02-20 22:29

Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Update: Version 0.3.0 is now available for download, new features in this version are:

* Switched to hildon.banner for information/warnings/errors
* Now has Open button in settings dialog for easy file navigation
* Now uses hildonhelp for builtin help
* Simplified About Dialog
* Added Donations sub menuitem
* Initial release of Quick Clip Viewer (beta)
* Now packaged with dpkg-buildpackage

You can download this version from here.

Original post below.

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Today I am happy to announce the release of Quick Clip 0.2. If you've been following along with Quick Clip's development, you'll know that I've been actively working to make it more robust and user friendly.

If you are unfamiliar with Quick Clip, here's a brief rundown:

Quick Clip is a statusbar plugin for the Nokia Internet Talets and maemo operating system that easily allows you to save off text data. Whether the text be something you want to jot down, or contained in a webpage, Quick Clip automates the whole process.

It just takes a couple of clicks to save off a peice of information. And best of all, with Quick Clip's easy to use interface and easy data categorization ability, you'll never misplace that information you wanted to save.

That said, there are quite a few new features in this release:
  • You can now specify whether the Options/History menu appears on the top or bottom of your target files
  • There is a whole new "Manage Files" dialog; gone is the editable wordlist in Notes. You can now use the Manage Files menu item to easily add, rename, sort, and delete your target files.
  • I also considerably cleaned up the code (there still is a bit more work to do), so things should run quicker and cleaner.
  • I've also heavily worked on making the installation more seamless. I don't think there will be all the upgrade problems we had last time.
  • Quick Clip is no longer a beta, but a full blown release
But there are still a few limitations/things you should be aware of:
  • When using the Manage Files dialog, deleting or renaming files doesn't do anything to the files you have stored in memory. It just executes the appropriate action to Quick Clip's interface to those files e.g. if you have a file called "a.txt" in memory, and you rename it to "b.txt", then clip text in to "b.txt" this will happen: Quick Clip's link to a.txt will be removed, and b.txt will be created and the selection will get clipped into it. Thus, you will have any data prior to renaming a.txt still in a file called a.txt and any new data in a file called b.txt.
  • Quick clip has still not been uploaded to the Maeno Extras repository, so dependecies will still have to be satisfied manually.
For more information, screenshots, etc., check out my blog.

Or directly download it here: Quick Clip 0.2

(thanks Andrew for the FTP account).

GeraldKo 2009-02-20 22:40

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Haven't played around yet except a quick couple o' clips, but it installed fine and so far seems fine. Thanks again for a really valuable program. (I use it already all the time.)

wazd 2009-02-21 00:19

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Maybe it would be interesting to you to read this: http://tabletui.wordpress.com/2008/1...own-series-10/

BrentDC 2009-02-21 01:14

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wazd (Post 265993)
Maybe it would be interesting to you to read this: http://tabletui.wordpress.com/2008/1...own-series-10/

Yeah, I was thinking of adding some sort of clipboard buffer functionality...but I think that is not Quick Clip's main purpose.

Quick Clip focuses on data retrieval and permanent storage, while that was more advanced clipboard functionality.

Definitely interesting article, though, I'll certainly consider some of the suggestions.

BrentDC 2009-02-21 19:37

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
For those of you wondering why the help document wasn't updated, there's a reason: I'm going to try to integrate the help into hilldon-help, instead of the launchable pdf like now. Not only will this cut down on install size, but it'll allow context-sensitive help to be easily accessible via a little '?' in the upper right of each dialog. I'm just hoping I can get it to work in Python (the documentation is in C)...

This'll be released in the .21 update in a few days.

briand 2009-02-21 22:03

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
...and when might we expect to see it in Maemo Extras (and/or Extras-devel) ? ;)

BrentDC 2009-02-21 22:56

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by briand (Post 266159)
...and when might we expect to see it in Maemo Extras (and/or Extras-devel) ? ;)

Yes, definitely! It is just there are a few roadblocks: Although I have a working Linux computer, it is a 64-bit system, and I can't coax scratchbox to install on it. Do you even need scratchbox to upload to Extras? I don't know, the maemo.org instructions involve a Linux computer, so I'm assuming it's a prerequisite.

Second route I could go is using Khertan's Py2deb...But I hear you can't use postinst/preinst scripts w/ that, and my program needs those to install properly. There are a lot of questions involving uploading to extras, so I definitely need to do a lot more research (I still don't understand the whole process).

On the plus side I see the "debmaster" position has been filled, so I may have help.

allnameswereout 2009-02-22 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 266173)
Yes, definitely! It is just there are a few roadblocks: Although I have a working Linux computer, it is a 64-bit system, and I can't coax scratchbox to install on it.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ght=scratchbox
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ght=scratchbox

BrentDC 2009-02-22 15:26

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Thanks for the links allnames! I did a Google search, but not a customized ITt Google search. That second link is *very* helpful; really, thanks a lot!

albright 2009-02-24 00:50

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
this is a great program, almost indispensable

One small thing: I think the icon does not fit into
the style of the other status bar icons. They are all
very plain, geometric designs. Quickclip's color and
"realistic" picture is jarring IMHO.

BrentDC 2009-02-24 01:18

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by albright (Post 266673)
this is a great program, almost indispensable

Thanks! :)

Quote:

One small thing: I think the icon does not fit into
the style of the other status bar icons. They are all
very plain, geometric designs. Quickclip's color and
"realistic" picture is jarring IMHO.
When I designed the icon, I was using Advanced Power and Advanced Backlight, and many other statusbar applets, so it just kind fit in. Right now, I just disabled all those and enabled the defaults...yeah it sticks out a little, but not bad IMO.

If you see the colors I used were white and red, and those colors are already present in the default icons. I can't help it the Nokia default icons are bland and boring, lol.

BrentDC 2009-03-26 17:34

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
After a longer-than-expected wait, Quick Clip version 0.3.0 is available for download. New things in this version include a much improved help system (now integrated with hildon-help), and a builtin Quick Clip Viewer. Here is the full changelog:

* Switched to hildon.banner for information/warnings/errors
* Now has Open button in settings dialog for easy file navigation
* Now uses hildon-help for builtin help
* Simplified About Dialog
* Added Donations sub menuitem
* Initial release of Quick Clip Viewer (beta)
* Now packaged with dpkg-buildpackage

You can download the new version from my website here.

lm2 2009-03-26 17:41

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Very much looking forward to checking it out. Thanks!

Maybe you should start a new thread with this announcement. Since QC is not in Extras (is it?), many will not know about this new release unless their apps RSS feed shows a new thread.

tso 2009-03-26 17:47

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
the viewer seems to indeed be beta, as i cant get it to launch...

BrentDC 2009-03-26 17:49

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 274843)
Very much looking forward to checking it out. Thanks!

Maybe you should start a new thread with this announcement. Since QC is not in Extras (is it?), many will not know about this new release unless their apps RSS feed shows a new thread.

I posted this to my blog too, which is aggregated on Planet Maemo. I hoping that'll reach enough people. ;)

(once I make sure everything is working well with this version, I'll upload it, or the next release to Extras).

BrentDC 2009-03-26 17:52

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 274846)
the viewer seems to indeed be beta, as i cant get it to launch...

Try restarting your device or enabling/disabling quick clip in the control panel.

If that doesn't work, try "python /usr/bin/quickclip_viewer.py /path/to/a/clipping/file.txt" in the terminal and post what it says.

Thanks.

tso 2009-03-26 18:11

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
no module named mokoui...

tso 2009-03-26 18:17

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
there may also be a issue with opening files, with spaces or similar in its name, from the menu. however it works fine from the terminal.

oh, and the rebound from scrolling the document to the top seems to send it scrolling all the way to the bottom and then rebounding from there, scrolling it part way up again. i would suggest cutting down on these special effects ;)

BrentDC 2009-03-26 18:31

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 274857)
no module named mokoui...

I thought I added that to the depends...guess not. New version will be up in a bit.

TheOne 2009-03-26 18:42

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
The icon's more of a fuller bodied bitmap than the usual line-art but it's a cool design and also lets me place it in between two more normal transparent ones showing the rough boundaries of the three icons at a glance allowing for a quick click on any one of them. I also place the most used icon, Advanced Backlight, at the end of the row in mid-screen for quick access and in actual reality app-update is the last when it pops up.

BrentDC 2009-03-26 18:47

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 274860)
there may also be a issue with opening files, with spaces or similar in its name, from the menu. however it works fine from the terminal.

I'll definitely look into it.

Quote:

oh, and the rebound from scrolling the document to the top seems to send it scrolling all the way to the bottom and then rebounding from there, scrolling it part way up again. i would suggest cutting down on these special effects ;)
Blame the OpenMoko devs! I hate it to, but I can't really do anything about it (but I did add Goto Top and Goto bottom buttons to help).

I uploaded a new version with python-mokoui in the depends line.

BrentDC 2009-03-26 21:04

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 274860)
there may also be a issue with opening files, with spaces or similar in its name, from the menu. however it works fine from the terminal.

I found the bug and just uploaded a new version with a fix. You should now be able to open files with spaces in their names with the builtin viewer.

munky261 2009-03-26 21:22

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where is the icon located so I can make my own?

qwerty12 2009-03-26 21:38

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
[1|user@N800PIMPIN|~]dpkg -L quickclip | grep png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/26x26/hildon/quick_clip-26x26.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/40x40/hildon/quick_clip-40x40.png
/usr/share/osso-help/graphics/quickclip.png
/usr/share/osso-help/graphics/quickclip_up.png
/usr/share/osso-help/graphics/quickclip_down.png

BrentDC 2009-03-26 21:42

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 274916)
[1|user@N800PIMPIN|~]dpkg -L quickclip | grep png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/26x26/hildon/quick_clip-26x26.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/40x40/hildon/quick_clip-40x40.png
/usr/share/osso-help/graphics/quickclip.png
/usr/share/osso-help/graphics/quickclip_up.png
/usr/share/osso-help/graphics/quickclip_down.png

The one in bold is used on the statusbar.

tso 2009-03-26 21:53

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
ah, just found the switch for the viewer scrolling.

still, i could have sworn there was a non-moko implementation of kinetic scrolling out there for python...

also, the viewer makes quickclip 10 times more useful. nothing like being able to use it as a backup for a long text entry, or a scratch pad for urls :)

and yes, now spaced file names work.

qwerty12 2009-03-26 22:03

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
For Brits who want to be able to use the help, do as root:
ln -s /usr/share/osso-help/en_US/quickclip.xml /usr/share/osso-help/en_GB/

BrentDC 2009-03-27 00:05

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 274921)
ah, just found the switch for the viewer scrolling.

still, i could have sworn there was a non-moko implementation of kinetic scrolling out there for python...

There is, it can be found here. I did look at this one first, but couldn't get a few things working (probably my understanding of it is the problem). So I then found the OpenMoko one, and it's really easy to use plus it is one library that can be used by many applications (instead of a module that needs to be included with each application that uses it). The only downside is the "slingshot" effect...

Quote:

also, the viewer makes quickclip 10 times more useful. nothing like being able to use it as a backup for a long text entry, or a scratch pad for urls :)

and yes, now spaced file names work.
That's great, I'm really glad you like it (and that it is working). :)

BrentDC 2009-03-27 00:14

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 274924)
For Brits who want to be able to use the help, do as root:
ln -s /usr/share/osso-help/en_US/quickclip.xml /usr/share/osso-help/en_GB/

I'll add that to postinst in the next build. Thanks :)

lm2 2009-03-27 00:22

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 274907)
You should now be able to open files with spaces in their names with the builtin viewer.

sorry to hijack, but can someone answer quickly this question I've had for a while: how to cd into folders with spaces in their names from within xterm?

BrentDC 2009-03-27 01:08

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 274957)
sorry to hijack, but can someone answer quickly this question I've had for a while: how to cd into folders with spaces in their names from within xterm?

If the folder is named "folder space", the command is:

Code:

cd folder\ space

tso 2009-03-27 02:48

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
two other options is to wrap the whole path in " " or to write the first part and hit tab ;) (that should result in something similar to brentdc's example)

BrentDC 2009-03-27 03:09

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 274980)
[...] wrap the whole path in " " [...]

Ironically, that is what caused the bug with the filenames with spaces, I forgot to wrap the filename with quotes ;)

debernardis 2009-03-27 05:54

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Chinook compatibility problems:
1) python-mokoui and libmokoui2-0 only in diablo repos
2) libmokoui2-0 depends on libglib2.0-0 (>=2.12.12-1osso10) but chinook repos go up to osso9

:(

qwerty12 2009-03-27 07:07

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 274955)
I'll add that to postinst in the next build. Thanks :)

You can also do it straight from the package :) :

Code:

--- quickclip-0.3.0.orig/debian/rules
+++ quickclip-0.3.0/debian/rules
@@ -44,6 +44,7 @@
 
        # Add here commands to install the package into debian/hello-pymaemo.
        $(MAKE) install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/quickclip/
+        dh_link /usr/share/osso-help/en_US/quickclip.xml /usr/share/osso-help/en_GB/quickclip.xml
 
 # Build architecture-independent files here.


BrentDC 2009-03-27 15:33

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 275013)
Chinook compatibility problems:
1) python-mokoui and libmokoui2-0 only in diablo repos
2) libmokoui2-0 depends on libglib2.0-0 (>=2.12.12-1osso10) but chinook repos go up to osso9

:(

I'll definitely look into it; I may have to make separate chinook and diablo builds, but unfortunately, that may be a while. Keep using .21 :)

mikkov 2009-03-28 09:35

just upload packages to both diablo and chinook extras. problem solved

mikeywilliams 2009-03-28 11:30

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
I'd like to change the preferences so that leafpad is the edit program.
What should I place in the preferences dialog box - the default setting is incomprehensible to my limited knowledge.
And thanks for a most useful program.

BrentDC 2009-03-28 14:52

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeywilliams (Post 275249)
I'd like to change the preferences so that leafpad is the edit program.
What should I place in the preferences dialog box - the default setting is incomprehensible to my limited knowledge.
And thanks for a most useful program.

Code:

leafpad "%s"
That should do it ;)

Just of note, if you click the '?' button in the top-right of the settings dialog, the help specific to that dialog comes up. In there there are a few examples of the syntax required to launch programs, one of which is leafpad.

BrentDC 2009-03-28 16:01

Re: Quick Clip 0.2 Released!
 
BTW, are there any features anyone wants to see added to Quick Clip Viewer? I think mapping the +/- hardware keys to change font size, and a nice find/search implementation is next on the list...but anything else?


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