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VDVsx 2009-02-21 12:35

What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
What ports/apps you will like to see in the current tablets or in the new powerful upcoming devices ??? :D

sjgadsby 2009-02-21 13:01

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 266050)
What ports/apps you will like to see...

I'd like a good HP48GX emulator.

debernardis 2009-02-21 13:46

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
I'd like somebody to port to python a script which extracts the channels list from the Italian Rai-TV site and allows to show the selected channel in mplayer.
The original script, in bash, is available in http://www.slacky.eu/wikislack/index...za_silverlight.

Why is it needed? Because those *****s from the public national TV recently encoded all real-time and on-demand streams in a M$ Silverlight container. No-one - er,.. no penguin likes to load mono and moonlight to see simple streams. The script solves the problem - but needs dialog among its dependencies and that is not available in maemo repos. And, I think that coding it in python would give a nicer gui look to the thing.

Thanks, anticipated ;)

Karel Jansens 2009-02-21 13:54

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
SIAG Office.

I think this must be the tenth such thread I've seen and answered to.

debernardis 2009-02-21 14:09

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 266058)
SIAG Office.

I think this must be the tenth such thread I've seen and answered to.

No, it's only the third time you do :)

Last year I tried to compile Siag Office from http://siag.nu using the mud builder, and the resulting deb-packaged binaries did run in scratchbox/xephyr, but gave some errors concerning fonts on the real tablet, and I couldn't figure out how to fix that.
I'm sure that it would be a breeze for someone experienced.

JoeF 2009-02-21 14:48

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Audiobook player with automatic bookmarking and playlist capability.

hypno84 2009-02-21 15:26

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quantum GIS would be nice

yerga 2009-02-21 15:38

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Pyjama:
http://nögel.de/pyjama/
https://launchpad.net/pyjama

It's to stream music, similar to Vagalume, but it's using Jamendo. You know, copyleft music.
It's written in Python + GTK, so it should be not very difficutl.

sachin007 2009-02-21 15:43

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
P2p streaming tv like tvu player or tv ants.

BoxOfSnoo 2009-02-21 17:33

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Java.

Release the scratchbox stranglehold.

BrentDC 2009-02-21 17:54

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
A working version of TrueCrypt (yeah, I know Truecrypt 4.3 is already ported, but there are lots of bugs...).

Twyst 2009-02-21 18:25

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
For the pen testing package I saw in the maemo garage to finally be completed.

GeraldKo 2009-02-21 20:48

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 266102)
A working version of TrueCrypt (yeah, I know Truecrypt 4.3 is already ported, but there are lots of bugs...).

A working, simple, GUI version of TrueCrypt that's .deb-installable.

GeraldKo 2009-02-21 20:49

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeF (Post 266068)
Audiobook player with automatic bookmarking and playlist capability.

(Panucci with GPodder doesn't cut it?)

yukop4 2009-02-21 22:43

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
a music recording app for internet radio that records the stream direct and not thru the speakers

GeraldKo 2009-02-22 00:00

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yukop4 (Post 266170)
a music recording app for internet radio that records the stream direct and not thru the speakers

I haven't used it yet, but isn't that what Streamripper does?

BrentDC 2009-02-22 01:22

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 266147)
A working, simple, GUI version of TrueCrypt that's .deb-installable.

Well the simple Python frontend accomplishes #2 and #3; it is already deb-installable, just needs polishing.

#1 on the other hand is a mess :(

JoeF 2009-02-22 04:19

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 266148)
(Panucci with GPodder doesn't cut it?)

Not in its present form. It doesn't do playlists so you can only play one file at a time. You have to navigate to the file you were listening to each time you start it up. It does bookmark, and it is probably OK for a podcast (single file), but it is not appropriate for an audiobook which is usually lots of little files. (If you have ever lost your place in an audiobook, you will quickly see the reason for lots of little files).

gazza_d 2009-02-22 11:54

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
A port of HFPhttp://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=18868 which works with the N8x0s audio system. compilation works, but gets upset with the audio.

FM radio, and better internet radio support in Canola (mediaplayer is far better, but far uglier!)

RobbH 2009-02-22 14:21

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Yabasic (http://www.yabasic.de/) and/or wxBasicscript aka PuppyBasic (http://noforum.de/wxBasicscript-docu...ript/index.htm).

Two options for wannabee programmers who lack the initiative, energy or capacity to learn a real programming language. :D

BrentDC 2009-02-22 16:02

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbH (Post 266251)
Yabasic (http://www.yabasic.de/) and/or wxBasicscript aka PuppyBasic (http://noforum.de/wxBasicscript-docu...ript/index.htm).

Two options for wannabee programmers who lack the initiative, energy or capacity to learn a real programming language. :D

Python is probably easier to learn than both of those and is definitely more powerful. I learned Python in 30 minutes. Seriously.

Edit: here is the extremely informal tutorial that I learned Python from: http://www.sthurlow.com/python/lesson01/

That teaches you the syntax + basics, then all you need is the Python Reference + PyGTK reference + the Dive Into Python tutorial for explanations of the advanced stuff.

RobbH 2009-02-22 20:56

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 266265)
Python is probably easier to learn than both of those and is definitely more powerful....

Brent, I do not doubt that Python is easier to learn, or that it's more powerful. My point is that I (and, I assume, some others who share my limitations) would not have to learn either of those languages. I've used both of them before, and as a long-time dabbler (I won't call myself a programmer) in BASIC, I am very familiar with the syntax and conventions.

I don't have any illusions of creating great software for distribution. I just like being able to cobble together some code to perform simple tasks for my own use. I do play with shell scripts sometimes, but sometime I want to go further than they allow. I've experimented some with lua, but haven't made much progress.

In my opinion, being able to do simple, personal programming projects is an essential part of computing, and it's something I really miss on the N8x0.

BrentDC 2009-02-22 21:57

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbH (Post 266303)
Brent, I do not doubt that Python is easier to learn, or that it's more powerful. My point is that I (and, I assume, some others who share my limitations) would not have to learn either of those languages. I've used both of them before, and as a long-time dabbler (I won't call myself a programmer) in BASIC, I am very familiar with the syntax and conventions.

Yes, if you're used to a language, it can be hard to change, but...

Quote:

I don't have any illusions of creating great software for distribution. I just like being able to cobble together some code to perform simple tasks for my own use. I do play with shell scripts sometimes, but sometime I want to go further than they allow. I've experimented some with lua, but haven't made much progress.
...this only really reinforces in my mind that you should try Python. It is nearly 100% supported on the tablets, and you can, with a good editor like Pygtkeditor, do all your development on-device. But the best part about Python is that it can be as easy or as difficult as you want it to be. So, you can use Python to create a new web browser (complicated), or use it for simple scripting: it does it all. With zero overhead. This is coming from someone who struggled at Basic and floundered at C.

Quote:

In my opinion, being able to do simple, personal programming projects is an essential part of computing, and it's something I really miss on the N8x0.
You can. :)

darrennewman@sky.com 2009-02-23 01:19

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
I would like to see a port of microblog-purple for pidgin.

http://code.google.com/p/microblog-purple/

gpmartinson 2009-02-23 01:55

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
remember the milk --> gpe tasks or an app(i know there are rumors/of such, but no luck)

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-02-23 02:21

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Blender
Inkscape
Gimp (with an interface for the small screen)

Lets see an iDevice do this...

YARR!
}:^)~

{apt'n

jamiepda 2009-02-23 02:22

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
In a very greedy way, I would like to see good cribbage, euchre, and mille borne games ;)

Thesandlord 2009-02-23 02:29

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 266394)
Blender
Inkscape
Gimp (with an interface for the small screen)

Lets see an iDevice do this...

YARR!
}:^)~

{apt'n


Well, GIMP and Inkscape work right?

And Blender... are you feeling ok today? :D:D

Would like to see a nice game like TapTap Revolution, and offline RTM support.

RobbH 2009-02-23 03:53

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 266316)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Me
In my opinion, being able to do simple, personal programming projects is an essential part of computing, and it's something I really miss on the N8x0.

You can. :)

Sigh.

Yes, of course, you are absolutely correct. I can. IF, when I find I have time to tackle a project, I'm willing to spend a half hour with the tutorial you suggested, instead. And then make slow, painstaking progress, referring to a language manual for every line of code I write.

There's nothing unreasonable about that. But in reality, if I have a half hour available, I'll find something else to do, something that can be tackled in that time. And the project I had in mind will stay on the back burner, until I'm moved to take on the process of starting to learn a new language. Which, frankly, may never happen.

Obviously, that's my own, personal shortcoming. But I'm probably not the only one who's guilty of it. And despite the alternative you've mentioned, I'd STILL like to see, at the least, a usable BASIC interpreter for the tablet. And I think I'm not alone in that.

Either of the two I mentioned in my first post in this thread would make me happy.

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-02-23 12:29

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 266398)
Well, GIMP and Inkscape work right?

I knew that GIMP was working, but Inkscape is news to me! Thanks for that! Anyway, even on my netbook, inkscape's interface suffers from the 'low' 1024x600 resolution. I'm sure these tools run adequately on the tablet, but would need an interface that could compliment the 800x480 screen. This is what I'd like to see.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 266398)
And Blender... are you feeling ok today? :D:D

Hahaha! That's a great question!

You'd be surprised at what Blender can run on. I was using it for modeling (drawing 3D objects) on an old Pentium 200 Mhz computer sans 3D acceleration. Blender itself is pretty light. It also offers several abilities that would compliment this dimiuative environment:

1) The interface layout is completely customisable. You can place your 3D view windows wherever you want, and size them perfectly. On my pentium 200, I was running blender from a 800x600 screen quite comfortably.

2) The interface is 100% res independent! This means that the dialogs with the buttons can be scaled (in addition to the 3D view). This would further the useful space.

3) You can expand the current view to full-window for greater control.

4) You can reduce processor overhead by hiding on-screen objects. You can even hide portions (verticies, faces, and edges) of the object that you're working on for greater responsiveness.

5) You can choose the rendering mode. One would likely choose wireframe w/o surface subdivision to keep things zippy. But it is still very useful for basic ops.

Take a look at this mockup I did in the 'What would you realistically like to see in the N900' thread (post 53). The screen was purposely resized to 800x480 to simulate what it would look like fullscreen on the tablet:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...1&d=1193595111

Interface designers can learn a great deal from blender. One interesting characteristic of the interface, is that the customised layout is saved in the project file. This means that regardless of what computer you take your file to, it will always look the same, making it easy to use across systems.

In addition to portable interfaces, the interface, modeller, compositer, python scripting engine, renderer, game engine, ffmpeg video compressor, etc fit in a 14MB downloadable container. Just goes to show how bloated current apps are.

Ok, so you're likely not going to be rendering anything on this little device, but there are still a number of useful tasks that can be accomplished within blender (assuming that it runs well). One of which is modeling (creation of 3D shapes) as well as setting up lighting, writing scripts, simple positional animations, etc.

Seriously. It would be a fun project to port and would certainly make the news. Of all mobile devices, I've never heard of one that you can run a full 3D modeling and rendering app on. This separates the N8xx line from the pack of mobile toys.

Also, as device capability improves (*cough* N900), this project would be all the more useful. Hey, it may inspire Ton & co to build some light mobile functionality into Blender, exploiting an untapped market, or optimise some pieces for smoother operation.


YARR!
}:^)~

Corruptaneus

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-02-26 11:40

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Oh, and blender is designed to take advantage of the stylus.. Port please! :D


YARR!
}:^)~

C is for Cappy

ssam 2009-02-26 11:48

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
good calendar/todo/notes/contact system that is easy to sync with a linux desktop and works offline. I dont want to use a closed third party system like google, but dont mind running my own sever software.

I think most of the pieces exist, GPE/pimlico on the N800, evolution/mozilla on the desktop, conduit etc. but they don't seem to have been brought together.

xopher_mc 2009-02-26 12:30

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
I would love to see alexandria ported to the tablet. Then I can have my book list always with me! :D

Amarantus 2009-02-26 13:22

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Xoscope will turn a tbalet into a portable osciloscope

rcsteiner 2009-03-02 20:21

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 266050)
What ports/apps you will like to see in the current tablets or in the new powerful upcoming devices ??? :D

I'd like to see a lot of the newer stuff backported to the 770 running OS2006. :) I have a pair of them, and with the current economy they won't be getting replaced soon. It's hard enough to pay bills.

An ftp server for the 770 would be nice, I guess. And some easy way to launch shell scripts (so I can quickly run GVM apps) from icons on the OS2006 destop. There aren't as many launchers for the 770, and so far I've not found one that allows for the arbitrary launching of shell scripts. If there is one, please let me know! :D

Benson 2009-03-02 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rcsteiner (Post 268389)
I'd like to see a lot of the newer stuff backported to the 770 running OS2006. :) I have a pair of them, and with the current economy they won't be getting replaced soon. It's hard enough to pay bills.

The economy doesn't hinder upgrading to OS2008HE ;), and you're a lot more likely to get things tweaked (where needed) for OS2008HE compatibility than ported to OS2006. Most of the developers who have 770s seem to be running OS2008HE themselves, and it's less trouble regardless.

(I'd bet even 2007HE, if you can't stand 2008 for whatever reason, has substantially more current stuff available. Still not good odds of new stuff being backported.)

qole 2009-03-02 21:55

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcsteiner (Post 268389)
An ftp server for the 770 would be nice, I guess.

If you have OpenSSH, then you have an SFTP server...

Oh and Gimp's interface is fine on the tablet, especially once you've played with the pallets a bit.

rcsteiner 2009-03-02 22:59

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 268409)
The economy doesn't hinder upgrading to OS2008HE ;), and you're a lot more likely to get things tweaked (where needed) for OS2008HE compatibility than ported to OS2006. Most of the developers who have 770s seem to be running OS2008HE themselves, and it's less trouble regardless.

Probably true, but I've been adding software to my tablet for well over a year, and the thought of adding all that crap back again one .deb at a time after reflashing the tablet (and finding copies of all the weird stuff for the new OS level to begin with) seems a little scary to me.

If my second one was simply a spare, it wouldn't be an issue, but my wife has claimed it for her own Pidgin use so I've lost all say in what software goes on that tablet... :)

In any case, what I do have works well and is stable. I'm loathe to change it just for a few additional ports. At some point, though, maybe I'll acquire a third and use it to play around a little more...

VDVsx 2009-03-02 23:03

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcsteiner (Post 268429)
In any case, what I do have works well and is stable. I'm loathe to change it just for a few additional ports. At some point, though, maybe I'll acquire a third and use it to play around a little more...

Acquire a n8x0 you should found cheap ones now :p

doppers 2009-03-07 20:15

Re: What ports/apps you will like to see in the tablets ????
 
All these are cross platform:
task coach - todo list manager - http://www.taskcoach.org/
keepassx - password manager - http://www.keepassx.org/
truecrypt - file and filesystem encryption - http://www.truecrypt.org/


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