Shopper App
 

Does anyone have any knowledge of this app? There seems to be no thread for it. I installed it and was wonderinbg if theres any way I can change the test colors as I am using the meta theme and the text is quite hard to read. Any help would be appreciated. :)

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I just checked this app out yesterday, adn for the life of me I can't figure out how to remove items on the list. Whenever you make a list it populates the list with some default items and I can't figure out how to remove them. Anyone figured this out yet or is it just not possible. Other than that it seems very useful. I like the fact that you can just leave the items in the database and check the ones that you need on a specific trip to make the list. I'm gonna try this out tomorrow when I go shopping and see how it works.

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It is definitely flakey...what pisses me off is I went to install this yesterday and cause of that bloated qt package I ran out of room mid install and it threw me into a reboot loop and I had to reflash, lost most of my document, most of my covers in canola...EVERYTHING...was in the process of reorganizing and hadnt made a new backup....so i finally get my tablet restored, been up since 4am sat morning and come to find out this app apparently isnt worth a flying **** at a rolling doughnut....needless to say Im a little upset. LOL

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I've just tried this app out for the first time. I like the idea of a shopping listg app, but this one is a bit user unfriendly. I can't see how to edit existing entries. The toolbar icons are small and unclear. And what's the status bar icon for? I can see some potential, though.

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Well . . . it is version 0.5.5. . . .

As with most applications in Maemo, tap'n'hold can be quite revealing.

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And that's why I only write for myself.

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@munky261
It's mine - I wanted a shopping list app and to play with the N800.
I'm not a huge forum guy but I hang out on irc and the mailing list if you have questions.

Sorry your machine had problems installing it though :eek:

Right now you can't easily change the colours - I did try using Qt stylesheets but had some performance issues so they are hardcoded for now. I think Qt 4.5 may help in this area.

If you like try running it from the commandline as:
shopper -stylesheet style.txt
see the attached style.txt css file.


@sceptre15
yeah - writing some help is on the list - I asked my wife but she was too busy...
As GA says - you can click and hold. I will do some help soon - promise :)

The app was an exercise in C++/gtk/Qt - not ui design. Happy to improve it of course but this is the very first public release. Release early, release often :)

I was quite pleased with the finger scrolling and the gesturing though; I'm also happy that 0.5.6 works in portrait if you have the right xserver/kernel.

@pelago - Completely agree - I've already scaled up the icons in 0.5.6. The status icon comes up when I use a Qt notifier - can't get rid... yet. It's a pain.

Anyhow - sorry it's not perfect yet; I'll keep working on it and I'm receptive to positive suggestions for improvements or code :cool:

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Thanks for the app lbt, and I'm glad you can take criticism, good and bad. Regarding the finger scrolling, it feels a little off to me, I think because the item directly under your finger doesn't 'stick' to your finger, if you see what I mean.

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Yes - it's a lot better with a big list but Qt doesn't quite provide the API to make that easy :)

Heh - you should have tried version 0.5 - or maybe not!

Plus there are 2 conflicting things - if you touch and move more than 30 pixels in < 0.1 sec then it's the start of a gesture.
If you touch and *then* move, it's a scroll.

Plus there seems to be an 'extra' X11 or Qt move event which means the last move has zero velocity - made the kinetic very bad.

Honestly I don't think I should have both mechanisms running at once - but I managed it and it works quite nicely. A scroll is more a finger "touch then move", a gesture is more a finger "touch as you're moving".

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lbt, the extra move event.

describe it please - it sounds like qt is being affected by the same thing other apps fall into when using the pressure sensitive driver, ie
when drawing a stroke sometimes you do not get the final pressure=0 mouse event to indicate mouseup.
it only occurs when the cpu is busy with other things.

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Im definitely looking forward to more development on this, has got great potential to be very useful. One thing that might help would be to have a home page for the app with screenshots and a general guide on use and how to use the different functions.

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This app along with other qt based apps aren't installable on my tablet as it can't find any of the qt libraries. I have extras set, but not extras-devel. Are the qt libraries located in their own repository or were they simply never added to extras? This appears to have been fixed. As the old Saturday Night Live punch line goes..."never mind".

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When I try to use Shopper it does not appear to save any entries, even if the save on exit option is checked. I create a new file, add some entries, exit the application. Start up again, but no changes are recorded. I get an error when I try to open a file "error accessing 'file:///home/user/home/user': file not found".

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Well, first off, there's a new version in extras-devel.

* Added support for landscape/portrait rotation - see http://wiki.maemo.org/Rotation to enable it
* Increased icon size to be more finger friendly, also adjusted scrolling to 'stick to paper' for pelago
* Added finger scrolling to the category manager
* Some improvements in scaling the fonts
* Gui tweaks: added strikeout when out shopping and notes boxes have lines
* Fixed QVariant bug spotted by Andrew Olmsted
* Added basic website and some help text to garage http://shopper.garage.maemo.org/
* Lots of code tidying by Erik Hovland

Now, @khaug are you exiting by clicking the x in the top right corner? I think there is a bug in Qt4.4 :( I'm digging. Meanwhile could you exit using file/quit and see if that works.

I think I see how you're getting the "file:///home/user/home/user" problem... it should be fixed in 0.5.7

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Is there any way to command shopper to open a certain list using the command line? I tried... shopper /media/mmc1/Lowes.xml and it didnt open it, just opened the previous list I had up for the grocery store.

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munky, you need a list lister application!

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This is fixed now. :) Thank you very much, keep up the good work!!

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It wouldnt be so bad to just choose in-program but I dont like that style of file choosing, would like the screen that looks like the filemanager to come up and Id be fine, as it is now...it wont let me save a list in the documents folder.

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OK Munky261, I've added cli args to the todo list.
The file dialog is the standard Qt one - it changes in 4.5 and you may want to raise it with the Hildonisation effort.

I'm currently working against Qt 4.5 which has a few bugs to work out :)

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lbt, Did you see the question about is it possible to have shopper open a specific list via the command line? And if so, what would I type?

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Im having a problem with saving my lists when I edit them. I make my categories and put items in then I open the menu, tap file, tap save (already have the list file saved on my external card) , but it seems sometimes it doesnt save the new data if I then close then open back up, cant figure out why it will save sometimes and not others. Have even tried saving as and just replacing the list every time, but I get the same mixed result. Is anyone else having problems witht their data being saved? What might I be doing wrong, if anything?

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munky - sorry, by "cli args" I meant being able to specify the list on the command line. It's not there yet - I loaded Qt4.5 and that is causing other problems so I can't test reliably enough to do another release yet.

My advice: don't use Qt4.5 in extras-devel on the tablet yet unless you want to help list bugs.

As for the file/save thing. I have reported a bug in Qt4.4 and Qt4.5 which 'kills' the application before giving it a chance to save if you use the 'X' in the top left. I personally haven't been able to reproduce this; I will keep trying. Feel free to file bugs at https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?fu...=721&atid=2704 too.

Maybe you could send me a sample list and tell me what you can't save.

(Oh, one thing springs to mind - I suspect apostrophes or other XML like < or > anywhere in the list will kill it <blush>)

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heh lbt, i had a problem with fullstops in usernames :D
are you hand coding the xml or using a library?
if its a library im surprised something like that could occur so think it might be a red herring and you worrying for nothing

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That apostrophe thing makes sense, as a couple of notes have one and they have been the problem items it seems, but would that also cause it to delete the category it is in as well?

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Looks like the apostrophes were the culprit apparently, just re entered all my items and left them out and seems to work fine at the moment. On a separate note, I showed this app to my 74 yr old grandmother an she wants my tablet when I get the new one whenever it comes out! LOL

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numky261, your grandma is a technojunkie, and you misread what she said:

i want your NEW tablet when it comes out, don't palm off your old crap on me i demand opengl 3d rotated goodness for my shopping lists!

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LOL...I have to admit it would be an amusing sight to see her trying to learn the tablet...one time we were leaving to go somewhere and she went to turn the tv of...stood there and clicked the button 5 or 6 times then i looked and said "granma, thats the phone not the remote" and her reply, was " well ****, they shouldnt look alike" LOL

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Wow. When I try to install, it states it needs 19 megs. That's a bit big don't you think?

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bluesubaru : Shopper itself is only 100Kb.

But it needs Qt ... and that's just a tad larger :)

Worth it though ;)

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bluesubaru, I said the same thing, and now that ive gotten used to the app and how it works it is definitely worth it!

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How do I check an item using my fingers? It's hard for me to hit the checkboxes near the items. I tried a left to right gesture but that seems not to work.

I expected a click on an item name would remove it.

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you can use the zoom buttons to make things bigger.. the left to right motion does take a bit of practice.

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thats cool.
I'm not wondering whether you have to train like a Jedi!

"These are not the items i am looking for *swipe*"

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Thats great! LOL

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i just noticed that Shopper 0.5.9-1 is in extras testing now.

QA page for voting:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...opper/0.5.9-1/

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hmm, I forgot the cli args...

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Just wanted to say thanks for the great app, lbt -- most useful!

Incidentally, is the development repository available somewhere? The svn one at Shopper's garage page seems to be inactive. I'd be quite interested in following the development a bit more closely...

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Thanks pna :cool:

Code is here:
http://gitorious.org/lbt/shopper

Don't forget to test, and if you're happy. Vote it "OK"

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Great, thanks for making that available! It's precisely what I was looking for.

Indeed. One slightly odd thing is that I have no icons when using the version from extras-testing (0.5.9-1), or indeed when compiling from source using the sdk (though that is less surprising, since icon paths are hard-coded absolute values).

The problem seems to be that on my N900, /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/shopper/ exists but is empty. Any idea what could cause that?

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yup ... optification?
ls /opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/shopper/

They must have been on my device from pre-optification times :)