Moblin opening up
 

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I still say they end up abandoning most of what they've done so far and switching to a Mer base.

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"Opening up" is the wrong term. "Being adandoned" is what you're looking for. Don't expect anymore Moblin development.

"a Mer base" makes no sense. What you likely mean is "back to Ubuntu", but that really doesn't make much mor sense since Moblin isn't bringing much of interest to the table at this point.

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Why should they abandon it? Moblin 2 is progressing quite nicely according to reports:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...blin_2a2&num=1

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Uhm, yeah, a XFCE desktop. That's .. innovative.

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I don't know why Moblin switched from Ubuntu to Fedora. While present in Moblin, its aspects like optimized quick booting and UXA for Intel graphics cards which are more interesting than Moblin itself. Or drivers for their sound cards, wireless cards (WWAN, WLAN).

All this is traditionally not directly interesting for Nokia or Maemo community so there is not much enthusiasm here. Well, unless Mer gets ported to Atom blahtops.

Meanwhile, WiMAX support arrived in Linux 2.6.29 and a while ago, the Intel graphics cards and wireless cards were interesting because there were open source drivers available but Atheros and AMD had the brilliant idea to join the bandwagon... :) other interesting projects from Intel are LessWatts.org and PowerTOP/LatencyTOP. But they're more necessary for laptops (and desktops/servers) than embedded stuff e.g. Nokia products.

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Actually, "opening up" is correct and objective, "abandoned" is your subjective opinion.

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You think that's why Intel bought OpenedHand and poached Alan Cox from RedHat?

Moving moblin to LF seems to me similar to Nokia making Hildon a GNOME project, not an indication of abandonment at all.

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Or perhaps Maemo being a project sponsored by Nokia instead of a Nokia project.

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Its dead I tell ya...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...in_v2_ui&num=1

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Yeah, no doubt. That doesn't look anything like it's being given up. If anything, it's a lot sexier. I like. :D

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Rather interestingly, the UI seems to be designed for keyboard/mouse, or stylus (or then the screen needs to be very large for finger use). Can somebody smarter describe the intended target devices that Moblin is for? Are there some hardware examples already available?

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Moblin 2 works beautifully on netbooks (just test drove it!) and should cooperate on one of those mystical "MIDs" :)

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Looks like Moblin is back with a vengeance. This is the only netbook style UI that has even remotely tempted me to actually buy a netbook.

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It's always nice to have an alternative, isn't it? ;)

It will, of course, largely depend on the hardware the thing runs on (battery life especially, but also size and weight). But it could be tempting because it's more the desktop-like full-power experience that I look for in mobile devices, while Maemo seems to aim more for the phone-like, casual use cases (in terms of marketing and UI, not in terms of what the OS is capable of).

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Netbooks, netbooks, netbooks (pick any of the several million different models available).

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Meh, if I had Moblin, I'd likely want it on a MID sorta like the NITs, not a netbook.

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This version of Moblin is for netbooks (not smaller screen MIDs). It should run on plenty of different atom-based netbooks.

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btw, do they still use hildon? i found some references to it on pages about moblin published years ago, but the only current system overview i found doesn't mention it specifically.

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related article:
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/r...x-platform.ars
moblin looks very much alive to me.

(sorry, can't answer the hildon question.)

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Looks pretty nice, after trying to use XP and Mac OSX on an S10 recently I like the idea of a dedicated Netbook OS with quick shortcuts for things.

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Probably not. The new UI is mostly based in clutter, and the hildon libs appear now in the deprecated list on the moblin git.

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Is Gnome's Network Manager so horrible? Every other GTK-based "mobile desktop" seems to be developing its own "Connection Manager Daemon".

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Yes, Network Manager is the worst.

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Moblin 2.0 looks great!

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Just watched a video from jkkmobile who tested moblin 2.0 beta on his EEE 900HA (and a MID S5 in the last 5 minutes or so).

Basically looks pretty, but scored low on usability (and not at all on MID in current state). Given it is still beta, so hopefully feedback from end users will help.