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munky261 2009-04-08 17:36

Digia @web Browser
 
Has anyone installed this yet...cant get it to install as I dont see it in the repositories, yet it's listed on maemo.org and has a green install button. Im hooked on tear but would like to give this a couple days in court.

lm2 2009-04-08 18:16

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
ditto.....

munky261 2009-04-08 18:30

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I just disabled all repos except for the one needed by @web and it gave me a package not found error, same if I do it in xterm. I really want to try this, looks very spiffy and polished on their little demo video. I emailed their support on their homepage to see what the problem is and if they can email me the .deb (which somehow I doubt they will do)

mikkov 2009-04-08 18:40

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
The problem is that they added downloads entry but didn't put the actual .deb anywhere.

munky261 2009-04-08 18:48

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Im wondering if this will be a trial version, as their homepage says about the phone version.

munky261 2009-04-11 02:49

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I sure hope this isnt a pay app if they cant even get the damn thing out when they say its availible. I emailed them again to ask if they can just send me the .deb for it and havent got a response yet.

fast1 2009-04-11 07:01

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
nope i can't as well

lucag 2009-04-12 21:47

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I tried to install it, but my internet tablet says that is impossible to find the package..
Any solutions?
thanks!!

GeraldKo 2009-04-13 00:48

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucag (Post 279205)
I tried to install it, but my internet tablet says that is impossible to find the package..
Any solutions?
thanks!!

Well, Friday I emailed them at
support.product@digia.com per the maemo.org link to "Report a bug against this application."

There's no reason they shouldn't get more of these emails. :)

munky261 2009-04-13 06:34

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I emailed them, and told them the problem and got a reply the next day, then I asked if they could just directly email the .deb to me and havent recieved a reply on that yet.

lucag 2009-04-13 10:13

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Ok, so we must wait...

munky261 2009-04-13 11:01

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Ill tell ya, if a company wants to generate buzz and good business with a new mobile browser, this is a piss poor way to start things off.

Cathoagn 2009-04-14 12:15

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I emailed them a couple of days ago about the problem.

First I got a reply in finnish saying "Sisällöt puuttuu" (in english, according to online translation, "content missing" ;) ), but today I got another email from their support:

"We have to put the package to extras-devel because we use Qt. We are currently fixing this with Maemo.org"

So let's wait and see ...

Cathoagn

GeraldKo 2009-04-14 15:29

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Quote:

We have to put the package to extras-devel because we use Qt. We are currently fixing this with Maemo.org. The package should be available in a couple of days.

Best Regards,

Digia Product Support
dated April 14

(my bold and underline)

munky261 2009-04-14 17:08

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
so, it is supposed to be in extras devel? I just checked and couldnt find it.

BrentDC 2009-04-14 17:25

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 279540)
so, it is supposed to be in extras devel? I just checked and couldnt find it.

It is not there yet (the extras-devel build cauldron confirms this), but as GeraldKo said, it should be in a few days.

mikkov 2009-04-14 17:41

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentDC (Post 279542)
It is not there yet (the extras-devel build cauldron confirms this), but as GeraldKo said, it should be in a few days.

non-free packages do not show on build cauldron list

BrentDC 2009-04-14 18:31

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 279548)
non-free packages do not show on build cauldron list

Really? Well, apt-get install digiaatweb confirms this! :)

jandmdickerson 2009-04-14 20:41

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Has anyone tried their Youtube browser called "@scene"? The link for info is http://www.digia.com/C2256FEF0043E9C1/0/405001937

Looks like you need to be running QT 4.5

If anyone has a video then please share the link.

mikkov 2009-04-15 17:38

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
digia@web is now available from extras-devel. Note that the .install link at maemo.org/downloads does not work

Description says:
Quote:

Copyright 2008-09 Digia Oyj. This release is for Digia Oyj internal use only. Distribution of this software outside Digia Oyj is prohibited.
:)

lm2 2009-04-15 17:42

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Please do post first thoughts here...

munky261 2009-04-15 17:51

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I tried to install, but it gave an error of:

conflict with application packages: libqt4-test (4.4.3-1maemo0)
libqt4-core (4.4.3-1maemo0)


Anyone got any ideas?

lm2 2009-04-15 17:54

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Installed fine for me (I don't think I've got those inconsistent packages installed).

But app crashed twice in a row trying to load new york times homepage.

From the quick look I got, I can't imagine abandoning tear for this. But I do like the quick magnifying scroll bar on right (once you hit the icon on the bottom).

munky261 2009-04-15 17:55

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
i looked in installed apps and dont even see those as being installed

munky261 2009-04-15 18:05

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I tried to install using apt-get in xterm, said 19 mb of archives need to be d/l but whats that 32 mb about below it??


/home/user # apt-get install digiaatweb

Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:

libqt4-test python2.5-pygame libqt4-core

python2.5-bluez python2.5-runtime

libsdl-ttf2.0-0 python2.5-id3lib python-dateutil

python2.5-conic python2.5-Imaging

Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.

The following extra packages will be installed:

libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbus

libqt4-designer libqt4-gui libqt4-network

libqt4-phonon libqt4-script libqt4-svg

libqt4-test libqt4-webkit libqt4-xml libqtcore4

libqtgui4

Recommended packages:

qt4-qtconfig

The following NEW packages will be installed:

digiaatweb libqt4-assistant libqt4-designer

libqt4-gui libqt4-phonon libqt4-svg

libqt4-webkit

The following packages will be upgraded:

libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-network

libqt4-script libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqtcore4

libqtgui4

8 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.

Need to get 19.0MB of archives.

After unpacking 32.9MB of additional disk space will be used.

Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n

lm2 2009-04-15 18:05

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
It even crashed almost immediately on a skweezer'd page. This thing blows. Why even bother releasing it?

Cathoagn 2009-04-15 18:05

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
@ munky261: I got the same error when I tried to install using application manager.
In a root x-term (sudo apt-get install digiaatweb), installation worked fine.

Maybe apt-get is replacing some qt4libs. (Could this be related to having Tear installed? Just a guess.)

munky261 2009-04-15 18:06

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
regarding an earlier post about their @scene youtube app, how do you even install it?

Bundyo 2009-04-15 18:07

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Tear is not using QT4 at all.

P.S. My Digia@Web installed fine. And crashed on the third page I opened in my site which is fairly simple with some Ajax.

munky261 2009-04-15 18:10

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I cant think right off-hand of anything ive got installed that uses qt4.

mikkov 2009-04-15 18:37

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
You need to have about 35 MB of free space before installing if you don't have qt4 packages installed beforehand. Not very fast and crashing all the time.

mikkov 2009-04-15 18:41

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 279845)

8 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.

Need to get 19.0MB of archives.

After unpacking 32.9MB of additional disk space will be used.

Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n

This is not an error but confirmation if you want to install or not.

You have some older qt4 packages installed which need to be updated. Apt is going to download 19 MB of debs which will take 32.9 MB after installing (actually less because internal flash has compresed file system)

btw. I recommed that you install using application manager, because apt will cache debs to internal flash (not the 2GB one)

edit: saw that you have problems with application manager. You can remove problematic packages with apt first

munky261 2009-04-15 20:02

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Wow, what a figgin let down of a joke. This blows more than a two dollar whore having a 50% off sale.

lm2 2009-04-15 20:05

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Yeah, it's like expecting to get an n810 for christmas and receiving instead a tonka truck whose wheels fall off.

munky261 2009-04-15 20:09

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Ok, who wants to join me in writing a collective email to them to tell them how bad their software sucks after dangling it in front of our face then making us wait. Actually, i have a better analogy, its like expecting an N810 and getting a used Sony Mylo.

Frank Banul 2009-04-15 20:47

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Seriously? Bash a new software developer? I bet they'll want to come back real soon. I'm all for constructive emails describing the problems you are having but I don't get the feeling from reading the posts that constructive is what you have in mind.

All IMHO.

Frank

lm2 2009-04-15 20:53

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Frank, your HO are admirable. But you gotta admit that there is something amiss in a developer whose web browser instantly crashes when loading sites like this.

It's almost as if they didn't test it on an actual device. I'm not trying to be pig-headed, but it boggles the mind why such a product was judged fit for release in the first place.

Bundyo 2009-04-15 20:59

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
So not a single buggy software should be ever released? I'm also against trashing a new developer, even if it is a closed one. It won't get better this way.

BrentDC 2009-04-15 20:59

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 279905)
Frank, your HO are admirable. But you gotta admit that there is something amiss in a developer whose web browser instantly crashes when loading sites like this.

It's almost as if they didn't test it on an actual device. I'm not trying to be pig-headed, but it boggles the mind why such a product was judged fit for release in the first place.

It wasn't judged fit for a release; it was uploaded to extras-devel not extras[-stable], and came with this in the description field:

Quote:

Copyright 2008-09 Digia Oyj. This release is for Digia Oyj internal use only. Distribution of this software outside Digia Oyj is prohibited.

mikkov 2009-04-15 21:10

Re: Digia @web Browser
 
I think this is more like a exercise for the future tablets. qt4.5 is currently only in extras-devel and "official" support is only promised for fremantle+1 (aka harmattan).


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