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gokuman56 2009-06-14 05:12

aircrack won't work
 
i downloaded and installed aircrack-ng and aircrack-ptw and cannot figure out how to use it. it says it is installed on the apps manage for nokia n810. please help me

gokuman56 2009-06-14 05:16

Re: aircrack won't work
 
it's apps manager not apps manage

Thesandlord 2009-06-14 05:17

Re: aircrack won't work
 
dude, you really have to research some before posting. They wont work well with the internal wifi chipset and drivers.

gokuman56 2009-06-14 05:20

Re: aircrack won't work
 
i already saw that but i just wanted to make sure that that was totally true. see even the yahoo messenger voice and video chat worked out on meebo. i asked many other people and they said it couldn't be done. but it works, thanks so much for that

gokuman56 2009-06-14 05:21

Re: aircrack won't work
 
anyway is there any way you can see pictures in the default mail client for nokia n810?

JayOnThaBeat 2009-06-14 05:59

Re: aircrack won't work
 
you know you can edit your posts to add more info.

JayOnThaBeat 2009-06-14 05:59

Re: aircrack won't work
 
that way you don't have a bunch of short posts

JayOnThaBeat 2009-06-14 06:00

Re: aircrack won't work
 
one after another.

:D

Thesandlord 2009-06-14 06:57

Re: aircrack won't work
 
I see what you did there...

My mail has pictures. I did not do anything special. Gmail via IMAP on Diablo.

icbolsh 2009-06-14 07:42

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gokuman56 (Post 296510)
i already saw that but i just wanted to make sure that that was totally true. see even the yahoo messenger voice and video chat worked out on meebo. i asked many other people and they said it couldn't be done. but it works, thanks so much for that

Okay I know this is off the subject...but how did you get video to work through meebo. I am interested. Currently I can only get to work through a SIP client. I would love to have it work through something that more people have like yahoo messenger.

gokuman56 2009-06-14 10:47

Re: aircrack won't work
 
go on google and search for meebo
login with your yahoo messenger account and you can video chat from tokbox located when you double click a contact

hawaii 2009-06-14 16:14

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Actually, aircrack-ng works just fine on the N810. It won't do packet injection, since the CX3110X does not support it, and the OSS driver doesn't have a mac80211 patch.

It will however crack just fine.

gokuman56 2009-06-14 17:14

Re: aircrack won't work
 
can you tell me the steps in cracking a wep key using aircrack. can you show me step by step. thank you

JayOnThaBeat 2009-06-14 17:42

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gokuman56 (Post 296618)
can you tell me the steps in cracking a wep key using aircrack. can you show me step by step. thank you

It won't work unless you attach a secondary usb wireless card that is capable of packet injection.

The steps are out there, you just have to look.

gokuman56 2009-06-14 17:46

Re: aircrack won't work
 
ok, thanks

JayOnThaBeat 2009-06-14 17:48

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hawaii (Post 296601)

It will however crack just fine.

How so?

..

qwerty12 2009-06-14 18:06

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 296625)
How so?

..

By loading a dump produced by Kismet into it.

JayOnThaBeat 2009-06-14 18:21

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 296630)
By loading a dump produced by Kismet into it.

..."loading a dump"

:D

qwerty12 2009-06-14 18:35

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Hey, it's what the extension on the said relevant file is! :P

Rider 2009-06-14 21:13

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gokuman56 (Post 296618)
can you tell me the steps in cracking a wep key using aircrack. can you show me step by step. thank you

Very easy:

1. Click on the aircrack icon
2. Choose "crack all APs" from the list
3. Wait a few minutes
4. Select one AP from the list of cracked APs
5. N800 starts connecting
6. Download all the illegal stuff you need

jself 2009-06-14 23:16

Re: aircrack won't work
 
3. Wait a few minutes

What?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_cracking
The average home computer could take anywhere from hours to days to gain access through weak system frames

qwerty12 2009-06-14 23:48

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Sarcasm.

(Nonsense goes here to pass 10 char. limit)

Thesandlord 2009-06-15 00:23

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Don't always believe wikipedia. I have seen packet injecting systems crack networks in less that 10 mins...

gokuman56 2009-06-15 02:34

Re: aircrack won't work
 
i cannot find the icon, where can i find it?

hawaii 2009-06-15 22:03

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Fragmentation attacks can crack 104bit RC4 WEP keys in much less than 10 minutes.

By the way, gokuman56; just stop now. Nobody is even taking you seriously.

gokuman56 2009-06-15 22:08

Re: aircrack won't work
 
ok thanks i will

jackdoor 2009-06-19 09:48

Re: aircrack won't work
 
I have seen somewhere that cracking can be done without an external adapter,
but it will just take longer because the n8x0 internal wifi does not support packet injection.
Does anybody know how to use aircrack without using an external adapter.

hawaii 2009-06-19 19:08

Re: aircrack won't work
 
yes. Use Kismet to put the card into RFMON. Lock channel onto the desired AP. You can also use airodump-ng to pick a specific BSSID instead, give it an output file and let it capture packets. When you've got enough, fire up aircrack-ng and run it against either the airodump-ng capture file or the Kismet dump file.

Provided, you have enough IV's - you will get the key. I've done it on my own 104bit key on my own network. It takes a while, due to the hardware of the N810 - I can break a random 104 bit key in less than 5 minutes on my laptop.

jackdoor 2009-06-19 20:08

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Thanks Hawaii, that 5 minuet cracking on your laptop is very impressive,
I assume that it is a laptop running a Linux distro.

JayOnThaBeat 2009-06-19 23:41

Re: aircrack won't work
 
I'm currently testing aircrack-ng on my pc on my own network (yes, really) just to see how well it works.

Anyway, it was collecting IV data (or whatever) very slowly until I went online with my N810. Now, I've gotten ~9000 IVs in about a half hour... the previous half hour, I only got ~400.

So, is it safe to assume that the program works better the more activity is on the network?

Also, based off the figures i just described, does it seem like its running ok? In the beginning, it seemed like it it was god-awfully slow.

hawaii 2009-06-20 02:06

Re: aircrack won't work
 
@jackdoor; yes. Running Debian. I run Debian on every workstation I have at home, apart from 2 XP machines used for testing and firmware updates of my various devices (zaurus, phones, NIT, radio scanners, etc...).

@JayOnThaBeat; Yes, it does depend on the amount of data collected. Each IV 'leaks' information. The more IV's collected, the faster you will be able to retrieve a key - since the IV keyspace is so small, they get re-used and you can guess succeeding bits.

JayOnThaBeat 2009-06-20 03:31

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hawaii (Post 298083)

@JayOnThaBeat; Yes, it does depend on the amount of data collected. Each IV 'leaks' information. The more IV's collected, the faster you will be able to retrieve a key - since the IV keyspace is so small, they get re-used and you can guess succeeding bits.

... well my question/comment was whether or not the level of activity on the network was related to the number of iv's gathered.

i'm filing your response under DUH.

luca 2009-06-20 13:49

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 298094)
... well my question/comment was whether or not the level of activity on the network was related to the number of iv's gathered.

Of course, the number of iv gathered depends on network activity.
The "trick" is to generate network activity using aireplay-ng, but for that you need an adapter supporting injection.

hawaii 2009-06-20 15:44

Re: aircrack won't work
 
Well, yes. You need to capture encrypted data packets in order to get an IV off each. If there's no traffic on the network...there are no packets being transmitted or received.

ARP packets have a fixed length, and it just so happens that each ARP request the AP re-broadcasts, gets a new IV. This is how you can run out the IV key space.


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