Seriously i am frustrated and cannot wait anymore!
 

The Iphone 3g s is being released in a couple of days. The os 3.0 with many additions which is released today. Then there is the palm pre.
I am seriously sick of all these waiting without even an announcement. We have'nt even had a OS update to talk about some sort of improvement.

The palm pre and the iphone 3gs are calling me.... i am finding it difficult to hang on for the tablets.

Nokia if you are listening for god's sake do something.

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Just breathe man; better to get a product that's ready then to get something buggy that met the demands of people with too much pent up fervor to wait for it to be right.

I know your pain, really, but the month o'smartphones ain't over yet. Nokia could still have a few more treats in store (as if 3-5 devices so far this month ain't treat enough).

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I understand. The nokia n800 was announced on jan 7th 2007 and then810 was announced on oct 17th 2007. That is almost 2.5 years from the last hardware upgrade. I mean for a company which came out with such wonderful products as the tablets.... why the hell would it take 2.5 years for a hardware update?

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Nokia is trying to launch a new series of devices that will have much improved hardware specs, a very different form factor, with all kinds of new functionality.... AND... they're trying to release a new version of the operating system that not only has to support all of the new hardware, plus add in a bunch of new features and fix a bunch of bugs, plus open up a great deal of the code that was previously closed... and on top of all of that, it is using a very different UI!

When I write it out like that, it looks overwhelming. It sometimes crosses my mind that Nokia might just have bitten off a tiny bit more than they could chew here...

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you think you are frustrated? what would i say: i never would buy a big, touch screen based smartphone. so the iphone, the pre and other devices of this kind are out - but so is the rx-51, based on what we think we know.

so nothing new from nokia, but also no alternatives to turn to. this is what i call frustration.

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Sacchin why don't you relax and try some other device for a while instead of waiting for the RX-51. If you buy a full price iphone without a contract and keep it in great condition you can probably sell it in October/November for close to full price. You could also buy an iPod touch, which seem to hold their value pretty well on Ebay. Or you could buy a netbook and explore that universe for a bit. Waiting for 3 to 4 months in a constant state of worry like you seem to be in might be bad for your health.

I was like you waiting etc...I decided to buy a 5800 XM to play with for a while and might get an iPhone 3GS for the same reason. I don't anticipate using any other device than the RX-51 when it comes out but until then there is plenty of other stuff to keep busy with.

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Of course, from experience we know that anything released by Nokia is guaranteed to be bug free...

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Try being in Canada, we have to wait another 6-12 months after everyone else gets the release.;) I'm in the same boat i'm ff contract at the end of the month, going to get my first iphone. Got talked into it by my wife and brother.

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Actually you misht also consider buying an older model iPhone update it to the latest OS 3.0 and play with it for some months. That way you save a bundle of money (on the hardware alone).

Then when the N900 (or whatever) comes out, wait for some time (since you have a new toy to play with), and consider its pros and cons and then buy it when the price goes down a bit... you could have 2 toys in your basket now (or sell of the old iPhone).

Of course who is telling you to wait till the price drops on the N900 - when I myself went and bought the N810 straight from the Nokia NY Store for full damn price, unable to wait till full market release. :-)

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Since Samsung just announced Omnia Pro B7610, Nokia might just drop the news if they were holding it back, "if". Seemed like this phone from Samsung was mainly designed to compete with Nokia's N900, like they already knew all of the spec sheet of N900. Any how this Samsung I think is the best alternative choice for the people who must need to have a "RX-51" device, because it similarly speced.

• 3.5-inch AMOLED display with 800x480 pixel resolution,
• 5.1 megapixel camera,
• 7.2Mbps HSDPA data,
• 802.11b/g WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0,
• 1GB built-in with microSDHC expansion
• 800MHz processor driving Windows Mobile

there are tons of windows mobile apps out there, so it can handle pretty much all the apps that maemo could.

I think you can say it's a worthy competitor device towards N900.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/15/s...ficial-reveal/

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You seriously consider a winmo as a competitor?
Specs looks nice, but still...

I can't wait either - and am real nervous that the announcement is still some time off, if the phone rumor is true. Wouldn't an announcement regarding a new top of the line Nokia phone kill the N97 sales? I bet we have to wait at least 3 months before anything happens.
I'm seriously thinking about getting an android phone (the Samsung galaxy i7500 looks sweet). That way I have the features in a phone, and can keep my N800 for "fun"

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After seeing the N97 - sorry, I just don't like the phone despite it being a very capable phone - I'm no longer in a rush to see anything from Nokia.

The 770 used a weird memory type. The N800 felt too plasticky to me - and decidedly retro. The N810's GPS plain sucked and no use for the front camera with Skype still bothers me.

I feel your impatience, and after playing with iPhone's 3.0 OS all day, I'm just going to relax, wait... and keep my options very open. Not impressed with what's out or announced.

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Although i mentioned the iphone to just irritate the nokia guys, i would never buy anything which cannot multitask. That was the biggest thing which pushed me towards nokia's phones since the nokia 6630 which was really the best phone for many years during those days.

For me a smart phone should multitask. Period. Until the iphone multi-tasks it is never going to be in my scheme of things.

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I have the same feeling. I want my N800 run java,
connect printer and USB 3G USB modem.
I will buy a Viliv S5 soon. Wait no more!

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Frankly, you can try the iPhone, it is a very nice and user friendly device, but you may be very disappointed by the lack of usefull applications and the closed system. It's so closed that you can't even transfer a file to or from your N8xx !!!

Still today after the OS3 update, when I compare my boyfriend's iPhone and my N810 ... i'm more thant happy to keep Nokia's device. I can easilly transfer files to and from it by USB or simply by removing the memory card, i have a good spreadsheet, word editing, note taking app ...

If only it was possible to share files between N810 and iPHone, i would have one ... but it's not !

Do you really need to change, you do you just want to spend money ?
:D

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How would you do that between your N810/N800 and a regular phone?

For desktop to phone, I use AirShare on the iPhone and access it like an ftp site.

DataCase gives me http access for retrieving, as well as afp and ftp to and fro my cellphone.

So getting files to my iPhone isn't a problem.

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Gerbick
On others phones, i can simply use the micro SD card ... this is what i do with my Nokia E90. You can use Bluetooth to to share files ...

What you are telling is VERY intersting to me so :
- is your iPhone jailbroken ?
- are you in OS3 ?
- can you share your internet connexion from iPhone to the tablet ?
- to exchange files between N8xx and iPhone, how does-it works ?
- can you make a document on your N8XX, transfer it to the iPhone and then, from the iphone, send it by mail ?

Depending on your answers, I could replace my E90 by an iPhone and then have a complete solution with iPhone + N810 !!!

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s/by Nokia//

At least maemo has a public, open bugzilla and bugs sometimes even get fixed.

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sharing and exchanging files between the N810 and a "regular phone" (whatever that means....)? just enable bluetooth. send files in both directions. or directly access your phone via the file manager.

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I'm not exactly the best spokesperson for the iPhone. I use it, but I'm nowhere near enamored with it like most fanboys and can tell you outright it is a "limited" OS since they've clamped down on the stupid things.

• Not jailbroken - although I did do that to my first iPhone.
• Just upgraded to OS 3.0 today, but not exactly 100% thrilled with it (same for the iPhone, just gotten used to working around it)
• Can't tether between the two - despite their being an older app that got pulled that would have done just that. But I've yet to attempt tethering.
• Exchange files... I've just pointed my N810 (192.168.15.10) to my iPhone (192.168.15.3:8080) with AirSharing open, and saved the files that were in the Public files directory - this is where the full browser on the N810 is the best - you have to allow access on the iPhone, or it'll time out. And you can upload/select files via the browser to the iPhone too.

File sharing easily done. I'm cheating though because Air Sharing and DataCase both came out for free initially and I got 'em. As of 3.0 upgrade, I've been having problems with ftp on DataCase. But it's easily done via the browser to and from the iPhone.

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Calm down on the use of "regular" phone - I didn't want to assume which phone we were talking about.

Anyway, I absolutely despise bluetooth OBEX. Too slow. Look above, I'm using full-blown wifi speeds, 5.6mb photo in seconds.

Not a perfect method; but it's one that prior to my answer was said to not exist. There are other ways.

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I know how you feel here, I've been hanging on and hanging on.
I had a thought last night, would it be possible that the "rover" will be an N97 with maemo? They are being released in the same time frame?
Maybe a symbian and a maemo version of the same phone?
Not sure I like that or not, but it would make things interesting.

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Thx Gerbick, i will investigate this soon !

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The hardware is quite different (esp. CPU) so it doesn't seem plausible.

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Really? I just thought it was a place to say buy our newest device or get lost

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Wow. I thought I was bitter over being dumped from the 770 and N810, left stranded in the cold water in the back of the shower while Nokia is up front getting all of the warm water.

And the scrolling issue I put up in bugs.maemo - "Fixed in Fremantle", but not my current device.

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The only problem I see with Nokia being so late is that the hardware will be outdated by the time the phone is out. I am already starting to consider it outdated by now.
Note that having outdated hardware means nothing to me (happy with the n810), having to pay $400+ for it does.

Right now I would only pay more than $500 for a 1 Ghz OMAP3/OMAP4 device with _decent_ battery life. Before the end of the year that'll be $400.

I personally see neither the iPhone nor the Palm Pre as "interesting" competitors in any way. It's not because they're phones though.

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If you consider OMAP3 to be outdated right now, every piece of HW you will ever able to buy in your lifetime will be outdated.

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So, the only things up-to-date are those that aren't available and wont be available for quite some time?

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I was too harsh. It's just the feeling that while the N8x0 had a better processor than most other handhelds when it was released, it is weird that the N900 will get the plain same processor than the Palm Pre (specially when Palm has _always_ been late to the hw party).

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I think he meant processor speed, not the model. The Viliv X70 runs for as little as $599 with a 1.2ghz atom processor, 1gb RAM and a gpu that allegedly plays 720p videos without a glitch. I guess what he meant was that, even taking into account that the Rover is also a phone, which the Viliv is not, it will probably sound unreasonable to purchase a phone whose specs pale in comparison to those of the Viliv for a higher price (taking the n97 as an example of what to expect in terms of price).

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Well, although there is some historical fact in that, Palm seems to be changing their ways. :) The Pre is a very powerful device - as can be also seen from its battery consumption.

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The Pre is a device that may actually save Palm. Well that and their WebOS embracing HTML5. As it stands, Nokia is the late to the party group and I seriously don't think - despite having good hardware - that their offering will be compelling enough.

Thank goodness that Nokia has a deep portfolio of options though.

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This may have been your perception, but it doesn't have much to do with reality. Nokia had been using the OMAP2 in a number of other devices long before the N800 was ever released and it's not like a 400MHz ARM11 (320MHz, actually) was particularly groundbreaking at the time.

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Looks like Rover is up-to-date by that definition :p

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To be honest he did say 'the hardware will be outdated by the time the phone is out'. Now, he just might have some interest in the Pandora vs N900 ship date bet to assume there is (still) a longish wait till the Maemo5 devices become available :)

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Naa ... I've been hearing about the OMAP3 for at least a year and as such I already felt it was old... glad to be proven wrong. It seems the OMAP4 & 1 Ghz devices will appear 2012 earliest.

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Then it will be "Fixed in H", "Fixed in I", "Fixed in J",.....
But at least we will have it all fixed in Z!
Do we have anything after Z? Maybe in Alpha again?

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There's still a "longish wait" for the <expletive deleted> Pandora, too! If the gods stoop down and intervene in the worlds' affairs in order to hasten the arrival of the Pandora, we might see it mid-August. Otherwise, sometime in the Autumn...

So that means if you want Linux on OMAP3 right now, its either a Beagle or a Pre.

I know how many of you are feeling about the OMAP3 feeling "old" already, since we've been hearing about it for so long now. But I don't consider something "old" until there is a better replacement available on the shelves. The first crop of devices with this chipset have been coming out over the last few months, and there's nothing really better available yet, so I'd say the Cortex A8 and the OMAP 3 are still "new".

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I prefer to think of it as "Diablo's dead, use Mer". I really must get a fresh supply of round tuits one of these days...