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Nokia launches a Netbook in 2011 ?
A good alternative to the N900 ? This might be the N950 ?
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/27/n...based-netbook/ |
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Meanwhile, UMPCPortal and Pocketables are saying that Intel and Nokia are going to announce today that Nokia will begin using Atom chips. (and I certainly hope that this relates to their netbook and not to any of their other devices)
Hopefully that announcement will also involve Nokia finally announcing their netbook line. The idea that it might wait until 2011, when we've heard they're already assembling them (and 2011 is WAY too late for Nokia to enter that game), is kind of absurd. I'd think 2009 or don't bother. |
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Patience, gentlemen. We haven't announced anything yet...
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Or how about making the patience time lesser by <whisper>revealing</whisper> some dates ? |
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... What is a netbook, anyway?
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It's a device that Nokia will deliver in a 9" convertible tablet format, running Maemo... right?
RIGHT!? :-) |
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A tablet to them often refers to Pen based PC's, a marketing experiment from a few years ago. |
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Intel Atom?
inb4 end-of-the-world-nerd-rage-posts :D |
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Let me remind you what we have said about Maemo 5: Maemo 5 will support OMAP3 processors i.e. ARM Cortex A8 technology, not more, not less.
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Bloomberg have some news about this subject... Just seem that they are confusing/mixing things big time (netbooks and mobile phones).
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aT2JAVfemoxI I can not see any time soon when Intel has anything that can be used in mobile phones? (At least Atom can't...) |
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Ok, ok, I am sure that this is not the stage that Nokia marketing has in mind, but some people could have this feeling. |
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Maemo 5 is a crucial step in the evolution of Maemo to a mainstream software platform. The evolution of Maemo will not stop with Maemo 5 as you indicated but continue with Harmattan and then with some release starting with an "I". PS: Pure coincidence that the release following Harmattan starts with "I". Has nothing to do with Intel. I didn't make the Latin alphabet. |
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if anything, I see the qt stack as being able to run on n8x0 hardware better than I see clutter doing the same. it may well be that a generational gap occurs but then n8x0 comes back into the fold when qt harmattan arrives :) mind you, by that time I will be happily running liqbase on anything resembling a cpu (and xv graphics), so what do i care ;) |
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And no, I am not negative, I am trying to show something that seems to be in the air: too much marketing around QT and not around Maemo 5... |
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And here is the press release:
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1324456 http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archi...pri_20090623rb |
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Ouch. x86 sucks. Hopefully some other company can provide us with the next generation of handhelds (SmartQ with a keyboard??)...
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In regards to open source collaboration what does the Intel/Nokia announcement mean:
------------ Open Source Software Collaboration The effort also includes technology development and cooperation in several open source software initiatives in order to develop common technologies for use in the Moblin and Maemo platform projects, which will deliver Linux-based operating systems for these future mobile computing devices. The companies are coordinating their Open Source technology selection and development investments, including alignment on a range of key Open Source technologies for Mobile Computing such as: oFono*, ConnMan*, Mozilla*, X.Org*, BlueZ*, D-BUS*, Tracker*, GStreamer*, PulseAudio*. ---------------------------------- In clear text, more commitment to relevant projects for Maemo. |
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Maemo and Moblin will continue to exist as software platforms, no change to current situation but we will align more of what is underneath the UI framework and APIs.
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What does the Intel/Nokia announcement mean in regards to hardware for Maemo Devices?
We will have more choices finetuned for Nokia, also for Maemo Devices. Not only ARM-based chipsets, but also other options. |
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The enemy is fragmentation. |
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It seems than Stefan will be live posting from the keynote:
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/23...of-device.html |
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While not exactly bad news... it's rather boring.
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...Intel getting in on the open source end here is what they should have done from the beginning with Nokia/Maemo though. I always felt that Moblin was not a smart move except from its nearly clean-sheet perspective. Eldar Murzan (sp?) talked about an IT-like device (N97 with the feel of a notebook) that would be something on the plate as a really revolutionary device for this year. I wonder if this partnership is the further pushing of that platform, and even more, the positioning of Maemo as having a much bigger role in the driving of Nokia's device and community interactions for the short-term... ...in a sense, a company becoming a broker and service-tier provider, utilizing their influence and relationships to create the kind of energy that open source commuities have only had in spurts. That's the kind of thing that will change all kinds of ballgames... uhmmm |
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No! Blech. |
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So, the main thing I got out of reading along in the live feed was: Maemo and Moblin will be cross-pollinating/sharing innovations/etc.
Which is good. Not as good as a Maemo Netbook announcement, or "Moblin is giving up, and we're all just going to use Maemo", but it's a step forward. (I hope it doesn't mean moving away from Debian and toward Redhat... I seem to recall that a few months back, Intel announced that Moblin would move from .deb packages to RPM packages... bleh) |
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What exactly is good in "Moblin is giving up, and we're all just going to use Maemo"? I'd rather have two frameworks sharing ideas and code than one monopoly.
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I hope this means some serious hardware improvement on Intel's part, to get battery life to competitive levels with ARM.
I find it interesting how Intel is winning this war; not like Microsoft, who goes in there and bludgeons the competition to death, but through careful alliances and negotiations with key players like Apple and Nokia. They woo the competition's clients away from the competition rather than trying to destroy the competition directly... Very clever... |
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This is what Peter said in late 2008... "We will be able to built different kind of high-performance multimedia computers with touch screen that fit into your pocket." We will... We will... When will the sentence start with "we have..."? |
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I'm starting to liken the fact that Nokia will deliver anything close to what's hyped to be about the same timeline. |
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(Wait, send a .. what?) (EDIT: Tucked my baby in from a what?) "Daddy?" "Yes, dear?" "What's a phone booth?" |
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I like this:
Ars Technica article: New Intel/Nokia partnership a huge win for mobile Linux "Nokia's Linux-based Maemo platform, which powers the company's Internet Tablet devices, is a mature and highly-polished solution for handheld ARM devices." (???) |
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