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Looking for a non-gPodder podcast tool
Short of using gPodder what other podcast-download/management tools are there available for the N810?
I've tried using gPodder (v 0.16.1-2) for a couple of days now but it is simply not a good user experience for me and would love an alternative. Example of current issues (as I'm open to me and not the application being part of the problem): 1) It is SO slow.. Simply adding a new podcast by a URL is such a time-sink that I'm simply not doing it again. 2) It keeps launching an app up to the status bar. Is there a way for it NOT to do that? 3) When selecting 'Preferences' from the icon in the status bar nothing shows on the screen if you don't have the gPodder screen up. You have to switch to that app and then...you got a window you can't close. 4) When starting up gPodder it takes a good 10 seconds and then it minimizes itself right away to the left panel. Any way to configure that not to happen? 5) More of a guilty-by-association...it integrates with Panucci which has a pretty bad audio quality when playing podcasts on the N810. Someone posted and commented on that the poor sound quality had to do with the program using gstream (sp?). Then again, I could associate it with MediaPlayer which sounds much better so not an issue per se :) 6) You can't set how many episodes you want to keep. I spend quite a bit of time where I am not connected to the web and often find the value in having multiple episodes available to me. Am I just missing the settings for the 'issues' above and/or is there an alternative out there that sounds like it would be a better fit? |
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I like gPodder/Pannuci, but Canola also has a podcast client. (My biggest wish for gPodder would be quicker-loading of the program itself, and Canola is even slower.)
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Tell me if that works either way--I'm curious about that one, since I'm not seeing it at all. Quote:
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rm ~/.config/gpodder/gpodder.conf This will remove the config file and allow gpodder, at the next start-up, to generate a brand new config with its defaults. If you find something better, please let me know--in the meantime, I've tried to do my part and help Thomas Perl and the contributing programmers with improving the application by liberally complaining in bug reports. I feel they've done a brilliant job so far but I can certainly understand the issues and frustrations too. |
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I double-checked and minimize_to_tray is not checked. I toggled it on..closed the app...went back and toggled it off...but same thing happens every time I open the app. Weird. Quote:
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Thanks again for your help! I'll give bashpodder a try (I checked out Canola while typing this and it's way to 'heavy'/big for what I want. |
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As for bashpodder, if it doesn't already do mp4 or avi, you can make it do so by editing the shell script and telling it to grab them. That's part of the upside: flexibility, but the downside being it's more than the casual user might understand to do. Quote:
mv ~/.config/gpodder.conf ~/gpodder.conf.bak then later restore it, if you don't like what defaults have done.. mv ~/gpodder.conf.bak ~/.config/gpodder.conf Like that.) Quote:
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Mind if I SHAMELESSLY plug my own podcast? I cohost the Black Rock Lost Podcast (we go over theories about the TV show 'Lost' on ABC). If you dont' watch the show, you won't be interested but if you do, it might particularly be interesting right now since we're re-watching the entire series to prepare for the final season coming up in January. You can catch us at http://blackrockpodcast.blogspot.com/ I started to try to do a Linux gadgets podcast and I REALLY want to restart it but I'm finding that I'm lacking time and money to do so (takes money to buy stuff and to have the time when I'm not earning money.. heh). Aw well. Someday. OK.. enough shamelessness. Good luck!! :) |
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Thanks for all the great info again.
I uninstalled gPodder and re-installed it. Without changing anything I open it up and...it immediately minimizes to the left pane (where I can click it and it opens up full). Weird.. You can pretty much see what apps I got installed here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29870 Not sure if any of them can cause a conflict. (And I've tried launching gPodder from the Extras folder, from Personal Menu AND from Personal Launcher :)). |
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I don't have the minimize issue but it is slow to start. But then again I have 22+ podcasts I'm subscribed too.
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Finally found it...I, for some reason, had 'start_iconized' flagged.
Un-checking that stops the auto-minimizing. |
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Used to be that you could swipe your finger down a bunch of them and then when you let go, you could tap 'download to get a whole bunch at the same time--but ever since Thomas went to the sliding lists that you scroll by swiping your finger, that's no longer possible. I seem to recall that he mentioned working on a good way to make it so that you can select a set of podcasts to perform operations (like download, delete, play, etc.). I haven't heard anything new on that front in a long time, though. Of course, it could be that I entirely wishfully dreamed it up during a particularly lucid night of sleep. :) Congrats on finding the iconizing option that was causing you pain! I'm not sure why you expected uninstalling and reinstalling would help, though. Uninstalling shouldn't touch your home directory (config files).. even if you uninstall gpodder, the config files will still sit in your home directory (since the package manager didn't put them there). |
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Also, there is Videocenter, it's done for video podcasts but it works with audio too.
It's a Nokia application (closed-source if you care about it). When I have consumed podcasts in the tablets I have used this application, it's simple an very efficient IMHO. |
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Hi there!
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A faster parsing algorithm (like bashpodder uses) will probably not work with all podcasts, although for "clean" feeds, it's a lot faster. Quote:
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One could also easily write a "lightweight" UI on top of the gPodder codebase and re-use all the "good" stuff from it - download management, feed update handling, database, ... I'd be happy to hear your feedback, although bug reports are often more to-the-point and more helpful for developers than going through forums looking for clues what annoys people. |
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If you are happy with a command line interface, I use a python script, it's quite fast. Has absolutely no frills.
If you can follow these instructions, you would not need my script, if you can't well please don't even try. The only pre-requisite that I am aware of needing is standard package: maemo-python-device-env Directory /media/mmc1/podcasts/ is hardcoded (nice!) as the working and configuration directory. For each podcast subscription, create a file named podcastx.url containing one line, which is the RSS, XML URL. eg: YouLookNiceToday.url Code:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/YouLookNiceToday?format=xml Then you're on your own with file manager, media player or mplayer to find and play the podcasts. This is the first version of something like a gpodder competitor but as it works for me, I stopped developing. ppodder.py: Code:
#!/usr/bin/env python To run the script from a menu, I use: /usr/share/applications/hildon/ppodder.desktop Code:
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This is totally a newbie thing to do but i just wanted to at least ask and thought it would only be appropriate here, i use a program called "Jobee" ( http://www.jobee.com.ua/en/ ) on my PC running vista, for a verity of things but the main thing i use it for is podcast and internet radio. It does a lot more and I know the tablet does pretty much all of it by its self but with different programs some of which are better if downloaded versus using the ones it comes with. but the question is since this is a all-in-one type of program that isnt to bad IMO do you guys know if this program mite work on the n8x0...
P.S i haven't tried it my self since i have not got my n810 yet, sorry if that was a dumb question just thought i might ask, thanks |
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Sounds like maybe Canola is the most similar thing to that application. I'm not sure why you think Jobee would work on the N8x0 tablets... their download page specifically points out it's only for Windows--and then only certain versions of Windows. It certainly doesn't help that it's closed-source, so nobody can port it to the tablet. Sorry, Jalladin.
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Just stumbled onto this thread. gPodder has since received an update and it's snappier now. FWIW.
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Sort of makes you wonder what the hiriing requirements are like at Nokia :) Anyway, sure doesn't entice me to buy the N900. |
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I don't mind using abandonware if it works. Are you saying videocenter doesn't work properly or do all you need?
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I started to get into podcasts when I was loaned an ipodtouch (which I mostly hated). I tried Canola but it was quite slow, and also had various problems, sometimes not starting up or not being able to play if the wifi connection was changed.
Switched to gpodder and everything's much better. The only thing I've noticed, and I am hesitant to blame it, is that the UI touchscreen sometimes locks up a bit so I can't switch apps, but this is possibly something else even though it's only started happening since loading gpodder. gpodder definitely copes well with malformed feeds - I couldn't get the Guardian Tech Weekly podcast to work with canola for example, but gpodder does cope. |
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I don't know if it will help, but what here is what I do:
1. Download podcasts on my Linux desktop using gPodder. Since I subscribe to thirtysomething podcasts, it wasn't feasable to run gPodder on my N810. 2. copy to my N810 via either usb or wireless. 3. Listen using MediaBox, which seems to be a little faster than Canola. |
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I am seconding bashpodder.
http://lincgeek.org/bashpodder/ It only downloads the podcasts, but I'm sure you already have a favourite media player anyway. I haven't used it in a while, but you can customise the way it organises the podcasts once they are downloaded by editing the shell script. (Hello everyone; I'm Robert.) |
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