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coosbaytv 2009-07-06 19:24

Inkscape for NIT?
 
Listening to Floss Weekly at www.twit.tv and learning about Inkscape (inkscape.org).

Anything like this for our NIT?

I do have Graphicsmagick on my n810 but have not found any user manual documentation for that as well if anyone knows where that can be found.

Thanks!

Thesandlord 2009-07-06 19:36

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
You can use inkscape using Qole's EasyDeb

coosbaytv 2009-07-06 19:39

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
@Thesandlord:

what does that mean exactly?

Linux noob here :(

thanks

Thesandlord 2009-07-06 19:41

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Search Please

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...light=easy+deb

Pretty much you install the Debian OS onto your memory card, and this allows you to use all the Debian apps, including inkscape.

coosbaytv 2009-07-06 19:50

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
WOW!

As this looks like it could be potentially dangerous, I will wait til I have a chance to learn a little about the various OS's before I go blazing in!

But, just knowing this is possible is a huge benefit!

Thanks...

Thesandlord 2009-07-06 19:58

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coosbaytv (Post 302369)
As this looks like it could be potentially dangerous, I will wait til I have a chance to learn a little about the various OS's before I go blazing in!

Not really. Its actually so simple my 4 year old cousin could probably do it. Don't be afraid... :D

coosbaytv 2009-07-06 20:21

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
@Thesandlord...

SWEET! and thanks again...

Hey, just curious... are most people running this on their NIT?

fragos 2009-07-06 21:53

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coosbaytv (Post 302355)
I do have Graphicsmagick on my n810 but have not found any user manual documentation for that as well if anyone knows where that can be found.

I believe this package is similar to the imagemagick you'll find in many Linux desktop systems. It's a set of bitmap image manipulation programs that can be called from the command line.

qole 2009-07-06 21:56

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
I think a lot of people try out Easy Debian, but they get disappointed by the fact that most modern desktop applications aren't designed to be run on a device with an 4.3" 800x480 screen, a processor equivalent to 1999 Pentium III, and no real hardware graphics acceleration.

Having said that, many people find applications that work well enough on the tablets; I suspect that Inkscape might be one of those. I know the GIMP can run well enough to do reasonably-sized tasks.

The best way to try it out is to use a Class 6 (or better) card with 1.3 GB free. Install Easy Debian and then use Synaptic to install Inkscape.

coosbaytv 2009-07-06 21:57

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Thanks George...

Not a "command line" kind of guy here so I guess I will keep looking.

coosbaytv 2009-07-06 22:01

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
thanks qole!

I sent you a PM earlier today...

qole 2009-07-06 22:04

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
I would prefer to answer questions publicly so others can benefit from the answers. :)

I also want to add that you should install Personal Menu in order to run Debian programs without the command line. Once you have installed Inkscape, add a menu item to Personal Menu with "debbie inkscape" as the command.

coosbaytv 2009-07-06 22:32

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
woops! I just somehow erased my last response by using refresh... anyway;

@qole What is all the talk from users here on this forum about the NIT coming to the end of it's lifecycle? I see these things as fantastic tools for productivity in the real world. I'm not expecting it to edit video but now that I found your Easy Debian, that's amazing.

But, then again, coming from the Palm OS world these NITs really are a viable mini personal computer (especially with all the new web 2.0 apps out there).

As far as Easy Debian goes, I glossed over the thread you started on it very briefly as it looks to be faily technical. I have a few questions on these concepts:

1 Is Flashing the tablet the equivelant of reinstalling windows in the PC world?

2 Does installing Easy Debian (to an external card) require Flashing the tablet? Do you have to go back and reinstall all your apps even if you backup the device?

3 What exactly is the difference between these OS's: Diablo, Mer, Debian, and why should an end-user care?

thanks

qole 2009-07-06 23:09

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
1: Flashing the tablet is like reformatting your C: drive and reinstalling Windows, except that the tablet's backup functionality is quite good, and you can regain much of your settings and documents by restoring your backup. If you haven't flashed your tablet since you bought it, it is probably running an old version of the OS and you'll want to get it updated (to Diablo 43-7).

2: You don't need to flash your tablet to use Easy Debian. That's why it is "Easy". It lets you use Debian apps inside Maemo.

3: Diablo is the latest version of Maemo (OS 2008). It is officially "dead," in that Nokia will no longer offer updates of this software. Deblet is a bootable version of Debian, and Mer is the community-run replacement for Diablo that incorporates features of the new OS (Fremantle), which won't run on our tablets. Read the Alternatives sticky and the wiki page, too.

coosbaytv 2009-07-06 23:16

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
ok, that is a little more clear...

My n810 is up to date with the most recent version as I flashed it when I first got it...

I read this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...411#post302411. It scared me as I have done nothing in the xterm ( I assume the equivalent of MSDOS ) and that whole thing just freaks me out...

coosbaytv 2009-07-06 23:21

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
FYI, please take a look at this thread as I don't want to create any new problems until old ones are solved: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30091.

Also, if I have a 4GB sdcard, is that enough to have other things on it as well as Easy Debian? I have no intention of using Open Office as I am happy with Abiword and other online alternatives. That said, if I primarily want to try graphics related apps such as Gimp and Inkscape, is there enough processing power to do so?

Sorry for the barrage of Q&A!

jaem 2009-07-07 01:12

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coosbaytv (Post 302434)
I read this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...411#post302411. It scared me as I have done nothing in the xterm ( I assume the equivalent of MSDOS ) and that whole thing just freaks me out...

The terminal can be a bit intimidating at first, but if you don't mind a bit of a learning curve, it can be very useful. (It's one of those things where it's often easier *if* you know what you're doing, but *looks* scary if you don't). I'll try to find a link or two to a intro tutorial, just so you can get around in it, anyhow. A few basic notes:
-Root is like the windows Administrator user - it can do anything, so make sure you know what you're doing if you are using the root account.
-If you're following a tutorial, copy everything *verbatim* it matters! (case-sensitive and all the rest)
-If you're unsure about what something does, type in the command, and --help after it. That will usually give you instructions.
-If in doubt, Google, then ask.

As for Easy Debian, I don't recall it being terribly difficult to install - if you follow the instructions to the letter, you should be fine (although understanding what you're doing would be better in the long run)

Update: Here's a tutorial - there are plenty more, but this one should suit. Note that in some cases, Maemo comes with a subset of certain tools, or slimmed-down versions, so not everything on desktop Linux will be exactly the same as on the tablet.

coosbaytv 2009-07-07 01:55

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
hey thanks...downloaded the pdf of that to read offline...

anyway, yeah it's just the newbie curve that I have to get over and asking questions is the way I do it...

that tutorial will get me on my way!

qole 2009-07-07 06:28

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Works OK; reasonably responsive; doesn't seem to have tap-and-hold right-click like other GTK apps...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2318/...6bcb7fe0_o.png

debernardis 2009-07-07 06:52

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Some times ago I compiled for Bora "Inkscape Lite" from the puppy linux distro. This could be useful now for our friend if compiled for Diablo. I'm without a building environment (and on holidays - but it rains!) so can't help.
The source is in http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/...-0.36.2.tar.gz

JustNick 2009-07-07 10:02

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 302486)
Works OK; reasonably responsive; doesn't seem to have tap-and-hold right-click like other GTK apps...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2318/...6bcb7fe0_o.png

How did you manage to draw the 3d box? It made inkscape crash on my N800 :(

coosbaytv 2009-07-07 13:44

Re: Inkscape for NIT?
 
Wow! Very cool guys...

Thanks again!


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