Google announces chrome OS. This is real big!
 

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/g...ces-chrome-os/

This is wonderful. Now lets see what happens to windows and Os x.

Good times ahead.

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I am betting on "nothing" :)

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I guess it is going to be the "quick" os your computer boots into. For example, if you want to just read email, you boot into google's stripped down linux os. If you want to play Half-Life or do some photoshop, you boot into a real OS.

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Well what happened to hotmail and yahoo mail. Almost all my friends and relatives switched to gmail leaving yahoo mail and yahoo messenger.

If the level of innovation is similar and it is free and open source... what would stop users from switching?

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We're talking Google here. A company that have swayed people to using their browser, search engine, email, online calendar, online tools, etc....

I would not say that 'nothing' is going to come out of this. Google is one powerful company.

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Program Compatibility.

Unless the new Google OS can run Windows and Mac programs just as fast, or can actually run them, as their respective OS's can, THEN I could see that happening, but as we've seen with other OS's, namely Linux, it won't happen. Linux is free & open source, but you don't see a HORDE of people switching over to Linux. Even if backed by a big company like Google. Make Windows/Mac/Linux programs all run under one OS and you will rule the OS world.

Here you go, taken from the Google Blog itself:
Link:http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/...chrome-os.html

Jesse~

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I believe they stated that they are targeting netbooks, so I think that long-term what we'll see is a focus on more and more cloud applications (google docs, calendar, etc). That will both reduce the requirements for applications to be run on the device and be able to make the devices even more 'lite' and inexpensive.

An OS that have that as a focus, maybe with on-screen widgets for updates, etc, could be very interesting.

I don't think the intent for this OS is to compete toe-to-toe with Windows and OSx as a desktop/laptop OS where you actually need to do some local processing.

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Seems like a good thing for the Crunchpad!

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Heh. With a netbook OS, and a phone OS... wonder how Nokia is going to counter this.

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This is simply a framebuffer Chromium WRT put on a linux probably with sandboxes and user access only to home. Some users want that, some don't - its as simple as that.

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"computers need to get better. People want to get to their email instantly, without wasting time waiting for their computers to boot and browsers to start up. They want their computers to always run as fast as when they first bought them. They want their data to be accessible to them wherever they are and not have to worry about losing their computer or forgetting to back up files. Even more importantly, they don't want to spend hours configuring their computers to work with every new piece of hardware, or have to worry about constant software updates."
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/...chrome-os.html

This is interesting because this is based on the web-cloud as data and app storage - easier installations, no more service packs. I'm sure users will love the experience.

Now the question is what are the development languages for Web?
* JavaScript and Ajax, Python, what else? Java?
C++ is not, or am I missing somethig?

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sounds good - perfect fit for the touch book...

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Its WRT, what do you expect? C++ is not very usable there.

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I was replying mostly to sachin007. He was thinking in terms of Google OS being "end of Windows/Mac" OS (or perhaps just a HUGE migration of people completely moving to the OS), which simply will not happen. It's been proven time and time again because people are accustomed to Windows and Mac. Most people don't know that Linux is an OS. Google will, at the very least, push it into the limelight, which will be great, but it certainly won't an an OS killer, that's for sure.

I'm all for Google OS. I can't wait to try it out on my laptop or a slower PC that I have in the other room. I have plenty of older PC's laying about to put it on for testing. That won't be a problem. ;)

Jesse~

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Engadget comments:
- This is really, really cool.
- YEEAAHH!!!!!!! wooo!
- Goodness, this is huge news.. lol.

So this is how computing dies... with thunderous applause.


If Google succeeds at this it will prove all my paranoid theories that the whole market is dumb and crazy and that marketing is the only way to get through. Cause doing what Google has done is like taking "the Gnome way" to the extreme: GNU/Linux is hard? Ok, remove ALL operating system features and applications until only the browser remains.

A solution which is, by the way, a 5-minute job for any hacker with some LFS experience. Only it has Google branding all over it, and for that reason it'll take over the world.

I just hope it dies a silent death instead.

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I had a NICE freakin statement to counteract your statement, but the back button on my mouse hates me and thus it's gone...

You win this time! :(

Jesse~

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OT: Knowing Firefox 3 has this "interesting" behaviour where it tends to forget your precious 3 page post if you need to refresh or go back/forward to the form page, imagine a forum software were 50% of the time pressing "Submit Reply" results in a 500 error page.
The result: the über rage. Broken computers.

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Well, sometimes it happens to me, sometimes it doesn't. Today, it just wanted you to win. T_T

Jesse~

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I like the announcement. And I can tell you that too many folks aren't looking at what Google is blatantly trying to do...

(a) get software up to speed with users who don't have admin or legacy tech knowledge

(b) take behavioral tracking to other (even more Orwellean) levels

(c) put most companies on notice that its time to stop thinking about what worked in the past and try something new

The Chome OS will be a sore spot more for the Linux crowd than the Windows/MacOS crowd - for now. The OS's aims, while solving a ton of issues conventional users have, still doesn't have a killer feature that will spring wholesale adoption (and this is good for Google and that nice antitrust case coming against them).

What it will do is similar to what Chome has done (and somewhat what webOS has done on the mobile side); it will make folks think about what's really important towards the user experience of computing. It will further take it to the utility end of the spectrum, and it will put all kinds of pressures on the major hardware vendors to get it right in terms of power efficiency and cost faster.

To the folks here, I think it won't hit yet how smart a move this is until Maemo 6/Hamarrtan (sp?). By that point, folks will see that mobile, efficient, directed, and engaging computing is more than niche exclusivity ;)

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come on! you're all being too strict with it... it is not a revolution, neither the end of computing, it's just a sinmpler alternative...

let's just say that divides the PC users in 3 groups:

"external level" - totally newbie on PC/only use the basic and need something fast and easy to use.

this group takes benefits from the chrome OS idea. it's like the eeePC users, that need mobility, economy and basic services... nothinhg like play a ps3-like game, but totally ok with simple games and office Apps

"mid-level" - some experience with PCs/ uses a mid/high end machine for a lot of tasks, including multimedia playing/editing and playing new games.

Windows or Mac/os are perfect for these ones, since they need a machine with good compatibility, a popular OS and usually have good hardware.

"Internal/core level" - good PC knowledge/ uses more complex apps and can even develop software and similar things.

Here the linux-based systems that actually exists wins the crown... open-source apps and OS are a must have here.


note that the newer Linux-based OS can be in the 3 categories (chrome have a linux base anyway right?) it's just a little hard to get used to it, but it have simpler versions, powerful versions and full customisable/developable versions...

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Its just another OS.

Actually its just another interface to an existing OS with tweaks and all.
And it will be more web centric - whcih is good, since the information and data is now all on the internet. Processing power is also on the internet (the cloud).

The only way this threatens Windows / Mac OS (and by corollary Linux too) is that it will make these companies sit up and take note of the web way of doing things.

Otherwise there will still be usesr who WILL WANT desktop OS with hard drive based apps and localised processing power localised OS management.

Hence people will still want Windows and MacOS.

But I was wondering if this is for Netbooks, why didnt Google try to develop Android to that level, instead of making a new Netbook OS ? I mean Android already runs on some Netbooks. So they could have added more to Android.

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When Apple said iPhone OS was going to be a "cloud" operating system, everyone complained: Apple was wrong. Apple rectified, and now their proper operating system is thriving with thousands of shitty apps.
When Google says "Google OS" is going to be a "cloud" operating system with EVEN LESS features than the original iPhone OS had, and designed for computers way more powerful than the original iPhone, even Slashdot agrees: this is the future of computing, Google is doing right.

Man, and I though it was Steve who had the RDF.

Of course, I am totally biased, since I am yet to see a single computing equipment customer whose needs are totally satisfied by "the web".

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I think the main reason "IMHO" for ppl not taking to open sorce OS's (specifically Linux) is becuase we are unsure of it, in the since that its not easy ("easy" being the operative word, pretty interface, pretty easy to use, but thats pretty much it...)at all to jump into like the others. my co-worker and I were talking about the google announcement and got on the subject of OS's, him being one of those big time computer ppl that hates windows to death, thinks apple or Mac OS is just too expensive, and finds Linux to be to complicated:rolleyes:... I was boasting about how I found a great device that runs Linux Maemo (my beloved N810 still waiting for it in the mail) and how I'm thinking about also getting the "Ubuntu OS" (for my PC) to play with and dual boot ( which is why I really took a liking to the tablet world to help me diversify my spectrum of computing beyound windows:o) and try out.




If anyone can give me any helpful tips on how to get my feet wet with Linx please let me know, Thanks:)

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Uh? Are you talking about MacOSX?

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I think that is the crux of the issue - Netbooks vs full blown computers.

With one (PC based OS) the customers total needs are satisfied by the OS, with the other (netbook web OS) some customer's needs are totally satisfied by the OS (for people content with email and the web and some media playing).

It all boils down to what people need. I guess no OS purports to fulfilling all the needs of all the customers.

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It's a revolution because it's going to change the computer from a tech device into an appliance (in the same way that, say, cars became driveable by anyone thanks to starter motors instead of crank handles and the addition of synchromesh to the gearbox).

Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Maemo Software is fiddling with GTK vs. QT while Google bypasses it completely to write something secure, fast, and close-to-the-metal. And makes sure it will run on x86 and ARM for good measure.

Interesting times lie ahead, for sure.

Regards,
Roger

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Oh, man, you won't believe how many times I have heard that... When will people stop believing this stuff?

Google takes Linux and puts Chrome on top of its frame buffer. People have done it before. What is so revolutionary about it?

Sure, I just do not see ChromeOS as a significant cause of interestingness.

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Google has replaced MS. I am not buying into all of their monopoly trap. I still use their search engine though.

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Come on... You can't deny that it is "interesting"! Really, now.

But, revolutionary? Maybe not.

Tim

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So let me get this straight. Big companies wants people to trust them with all of their info and documents on their servers where they have complete control? Mmm, sounds fishy.

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I recommend Wubi.

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To me, it proves the opposite. That Google actually understands the market better than most others. Heavy, legacy, slow OS's that will invariably fracture or render hardware obsolete in just one or two iterations (ahem, Nokia) shouldn't be tolerated at all anymore.

Regardless, with a browser, they have: docs, calendars, e-mail, chat, voice, file storage, internet, advertising. WebOS went that way, ChromeOS is going that way.

I don't quite think they'll get it right for a few more years, but I welcome this.

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OK, so Microsoft got sued b/c their operating system worked too closely with Internet Explorer, right?

So, fast forward to 2010. I've got my Google OS netbook. I go to my e-mail. Someone sent me a Word doc. I open it -- oops? What happens now? Do I have to have a Google Docs account to view it? What if I use Hotmail or Yahoo mail (like sachin007 said)? What if Microsoft creates an online Word Viewer?

Google has this ecosystem of web apps that all work together & now it will all be delivered on a computer. Microsoft will probably do the same thing leveraging Windows Live (and Gazelle???). But will these ecosystems be closed, or will they play nice with each other? If not, will lawsuits come?

And I'm STILL not going to store all my sensitive personal documents in a cloud. I'm not ready to give up my hard drive.

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It is funny how paranoid people can get over another semi-viable netbook Linux distro. Any of you bothered to consider whether this mighty Google OS would run MS Office? =)

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After using Google Docs via the browser, I'd rather not use MS Office when in a rush.

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They will understand the market right up to the point when the Web 2.0 baloons start poppin'... How many web "Office suites" or OSes are left lately?

And without browser they have... nothing. They can't rewrite it for the desktop, so why not making another web desktop?

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Be paranoid all you want; Google wants your eye balls, not your data. In the end, there will be secure FOSS clients for all Google services and all your data will be encrypted by said clients. I'll take the free transport and backup.

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And what has the desktop done since the first version(s)? Not changed, not one bit. Face it, this is a change... not the best one, but a change nonetheless.

But to answer your "web office suites"... Microsoft Office Live, ThinkFree Office, Google Docs among others.

OS's? Heh, in an extremely simplified view, there's Linux, OSX, Windows. All others, Android, Maemo, Moblin, Mobile OSX, WinMo... are just iterations of the aforementioned three (in a simplified manner).

Now... when it was Maemo being offered as an alternative, it was welcomed. Why the knee-jerk reaction to this as an alternative?

It's better than having none.

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And what will the web bring to the table? Slow centralized cloud webapps which will simulate work while offline?

That's like one then? We're talking about Google and Microsoft Office is not exactly web only.

I was talking about web "OSes" but it probably wasn't very clear.

What I really meant was how much of these Web 2.0 ventures die in a single year? Google is big and that shields it from mistakes but it doesn't mean that Google doesn't make mistakes.

The reaction is simple - its nothing world shattering that will change the course of the history. It will have its uses and that's all.

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It is said that an elephant can eat 500kg of fruit a day. Nobody lets him though. :)