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ayyak 2009-07-30 22:14

How to use maemo mapper?
 
Hello

I wanted to know how to install it and how to download maps?

via wifi ? or from a website?

Should I have a gps device reciver so they work
I don't want to track or any thing just seeing maps

I'm using the N800

Thanks

Den in USA 2009-07-30 22:25

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ayyak (Post 307817)
Hello

I wanted to know how to install it and how to download maps?

via wifi ? or from a website?

Should I have a gps device reciver so they work
I don't want to track or any thing just seeing maps

I'm using the N800

Thanks

Here's a good starting point:

http://fragostech.com/MaemoMapper/

ayyak 2009-07-30 22:29

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Thank You :)

Lord Raiden 2009-07-31 03:44

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Den, have you considered adding the "getmaps" script that's been posted around here several times? I think that'd be a good resource. I know it only works for google maps, but that shouldn't be too big a deal, plus it can easily be hacked to do more maps too. :)

Den in USA 2009-07-31 04:28

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Raiden (Post 307887)
Den, have you considered adding the "getmaps" script that's been posted around here several times? I think that'd be a good resource. I know it only works for google maps, but that shouldn't be too big a deal, plus it can easily be hacked to do more maps too. :)

No, haven't tryed “getmaps". I use “VE”, “Google”, “Yahoo” and “Open Street” map repositories with traffic and weather layers.

ayyak 2009-07-31 10:59

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
I have a question
One's the maps download it do I still have to use the WIFI to view them?

Den in USA 2009-07-31 13:23

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ayyak (Post 307943)
I have a question
Once the maps are downloaded, do I still have to connect to WIFI to view them?

No, Any maps you view while connected to WiFi will be saved to your memory card in a folder named "Mapper". All these map files have the file extension ".db". If you do a "route" while connected to WiFi, that route will also be saved to you memory card so that you can do that route while "offline". I created a "Routes" folder within the "Mapper" folder to keep them separate from my downloaded maps.

ayyak 2009-07-31 13:34

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
thanks I appreciate your help

timsamoff 2009-07-31 13:40

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Den in USA (Post 307820)
Here's a good starting point:

http://fragostech.com/MaemoMapper/

How about adding this to the maemo.org wiki. I think it's done well enough to call "official." :)

Tim

fragos 2009-07-31 20:38

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 307977)
How about adding this to the maemo.org wiki. I think it's done well enough to call "official." :)

Tim

As the author I prefer to keep control over my work. I'd also miss the traffic on my website that this HowTo brings.

timsamoff 2009-07-31 21:27

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fragos (Post 308060)
As the author I prefer to keep control over my work. I'd also miss the traffic on my website that this HowTo brings.

Understood. Traffic aside, wikis aren't meant to take authorship (or control) away from any given piece. If you look closely, you'll see that most wiki articles are maintained by the original author. Sometimes edits are made by others, but usually only to improve on the original text -- or if the original author asks for help.

But, if you prefer to keep it on your server, that's your prerogative. And, if someone chooses to add a similar tutorial to the maemo.org wiki, unfortunately you won't be able to claim ownership anymore.

Tim

fragos 2009-07-31 22:27

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 308068)
And, if someone chooses to add a similar tutorial to the maemo.org wiki, unfortunately you won't be able to claim ownership anymore.

Others are free to write on the same subject in the wiki or elsewhere. A link to my site can be inserted in the WiKi. I do not own the subject but will always be the author of what I wrote. I choose not to charge for viewing the Maemo Mapper HowTo on my site.

ayyak 2009-07-31 22:43

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Fine You are the author of this Sh*t and Thanks For it

NO BODY PUBLISH ANY THING IN THE WIKI ABOUT THE MAPPER SINCE THE AUTHOR FORBID TO COPY IT, JUST PUT THE LINKS FOR GOD SAKES.

Lord Raiden 2009-08-01 02:26

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Fragos, by legal definition according to copyright law, yes. By normal definition, yes. But when you're writing help guides and how-to's, your goal shouldn't be to claim "this is mine and you can use it", but rather "here's something useful that should help you" and not to bother with who wrote what.

My tech site runs everything under creative commons, because we *WANT* people to share it, as we know that's the best way to help people, and that's what we're there for. Hording helpful information as though it were Gollums ring does nothing to help people, or if it does, the amount of help that information can provide is unicated and limited. By allowing my works to be shared, I'm helping people from China to India, and all across the Americas with computer stuff, namely FOSS and Linux stuff. And ya know what? I'm happiest that way. :) I get more enjoyment knowing others have found my stuff useful and shared it with others who were also helped, than I would if I had horded it behind some mask of "ownership".

Just my 2c.

YoDude 2009-08-01 11:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fragos (Post 308078)
Others are free to write on the same subject in the wiki or elsewhere. A link to my site can be inserted in the WiKi. I do not own the subject but will always be the author of what I wrote. I choose not to charge for viewing the Maemo Mapper HowTo on my site.

Ahh, altruism... what a wonderful thing. :rolleyes:

No doubt you put a lot of time and effort into cutting, pasting, adding or removing verbs, and rearranging gnuite's posts and other info found on Internet Tablet Talk on to your web site. :)

I'm sure you wouldn't mind someone else doing the same for the WiKi.

Oh and if your site ever goes down, I'm thinkin' that "author" will choose not to charge you if you need to reference the WiKi. :p

MountainX 2009-08-01 14:39

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Personally, I would like to see a good guide for Maemo Mapper (MM) on the wiki because, after reading Fragos's guide, I still cannot figure out how to use MM.

Fragos, you should really consider letting go of your tight control of that content, because, in my experience, the content needs a lot of improvement. You need to let other people contribute. If this MM guide had been on the wiki, as I was going through it trying to learn MM for the first time, I could have inserted questions or comments that would eventually improve the usefulness of the HowTo for future readers. Plus, I saw small mistakes and typos I would have fixed if it was on the wiki.

You make it sound like you are more interested in helping yourself than in helping the community. I do not know if that is true, but that's the impression you are leaving.

ayyak 2009-08-01 14:41

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 308166)
Personally, I would like to see a good guide for Maemo Mapper (MM) on the wiki because, after reading Fragos's guide, I still cannot figure out how to use MM.

Fragos, you should really consider letting go of your tight control of that content, because, in my experience, the content needs a lot of improvement. You need to let other people contribute. If this MM guide had been on the wiki, as I was going through it trying to learn MM for the first time, I could have inserted questions or comments that would eventually improve the usefulness of the HowTo for future readers. Plus, I saw small mistakes and typos I would have fixed if it was on the wiki.

You make it sound like you are more interested in helping yourself than in helping the community. I do not know if that is true, but that's the impression you are leaving.

Thanks

Me Too looking for a good guide

wesgreen 2009-08-01 19:07

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 308166)
Personally, I would like to see a good guide for Maemo Mapper (MM) on the wiki because, after reading Fragos's guide, I still cannot figure out how to use MM.

Fragos, you should really consider letting go of your tight control of that content, because, in my experience, the content needs a lot of improvement. You need to let other people contribute. If this MM guide had been on the wiki, as I was going through it trying to learn MM for the first time, I could have inserted questions or comments that would eventually improve the usefulness of the HowTo for future readers. Plus, I saw small mistakes and typos I would have fixed if it was on the wiki.

You make it sound like you are more interested in helping yourself than in helping the community. I do not know if that is true, but that's the impression you are leaving.

you're talking about one of the most helpful dudes on this site.

MountainX 2009-08-01 19:36

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wesgreen (Post 308188)
you're talking about one of the most helpful dudes on this site.

OK, glad to know that. I'm a newbie.

Lord Raiden 2009-08-01 20:25

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Helpful or not, he needs to open up his stuff to let the community help as well. As it stands right now, he's just hit hording because it's beneficial to him. That may be fine right now, but it'll come back to haunt him later on.

Of course, if he doesn't want to release his info, it's really not that much of an effort to recreate all his stuff (it's open information anyways) and improve it greatly on an open wiki where everyone can contribute. So I guess the question is up to him. Give freely of what you have and be loved for what you've done, or horde it and be bypassed and ultimately hated for what you did. So in the long run it's better to give than to horde. ;)

But enough preaching to the choir, it's time to get back to the topic.

fragos 2009-08-02 00:00

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Interesting definition of hording information. Availble to the many thousands of viewers that have come to read it on my site but horded because it's not published in the Maemo Wiki. As a matter of note there are a number of links to this HowTo in blogs and forums not part of the Maemo community. John Costigan, a.k.a. gnuite, thanked me for my work on the HowTo and added a link to it from the development site. This is a most interesting thread. One poster said the HowTo has reached a level of completeness that it's ready to be added to the WiKi. Another that it is so bad that the WiKi is required to save it. Another accused me of copying it from these forums. And now I'm to be despised and hated for trying to help others while building traffic to my site which has links back to these forums. So be it but I won't let implied threats or insults get in the way of my participating in these forums.

ayyak 2009-08-02 00:03

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
For God Sakes

Shut up about this Wiki

ALL I asked how to use it this F***king program

Please Don't reply

MountainX 2009-08-02 05:50

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fragos (Post 308235)
Interesting definition of hording information. Availble to the many thousands of viewers that have come to read it on my site but horded because it's not published in the Maemo Wiki. As a matter of note there are a number of links to this HowTo in blogs and forums not part of the Maemo community. John Costigan, a.k.a. gnuite, thanked me for my work on the HowTo and added a link to it from the development site. This is a most interesting thread. One poster said the HowTo has reached a level of completeness that it's ready to be added to the WiKi. Another that it is so bad that the WiKi is required to save it. Another accused me of copying it from these forums. And now I'm to be despised and hated for trying to help others while building traffic to my site which has links back to these forums. So be it but I won't let implied threats or insults get in the way of my participating in these forums.

i can see how some of these comments, inclucing mine, would or could hurt your feelings. i apologize. (no one hates you.) i apreciate what you have done. it is helpful, but it is less than it could be if others could contribute. i thought it would be appropriate to apologize publicly, but at the same time i know others are tired of this discussion. so i'll end here.

Laughing Man 2009-08-03 01:33

Re: How to use maemo mapper?
 
What I don't understand is how hard it is for people to do it themselves then. Sure what fragos is doing isn't in the spirit of 100% sharing but he's not blocking you from putting a link to his site from there, he's not hiding it from you or actively preventing you from putting similar information out. He's just asking you not to copy and paste from him. It's not like the information is secret. All you need to do is take screenshots and then write a guide on say how to download POI.

Press this, click this, type in query, etc..etc..

Heck with the amount of people commenting on fragos you could probably do it in a less then a day, just split up the work..


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