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timsamoff 2009-08-07 19:32

APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
http://mashable.com/2009/08/07/apple-tablet-gallery/

Tim

bobman 2009-08-07 20:27

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
When I first heard it was likely Apple would be producing a table, I thought, "I'd buy that." But with the likely high price, the persistent poor behavior on the part of Apple regarding the app store, and the inevitable tie to iTunes (which performs poorly under Windows and not at all on Linux), the obvious choice for me is the Always Innovating Touchbook.

From what I've read it is the best of both worlds: a touchpad and a netbook. For almost every apple tablet mockup image, there is a corresponding *real* image of an AI Touchbook. Plus, it runs Linux and is thus has a longer lifespan than something that runs Windows.

I hope the AI Touchbook becomes as successful as the netbooks!

johnkzin 2009-08-08 02:35

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
My favorite is the Tommaso Gecchelin design. I'd love to see that (as a Mac netbook ... or as a Linux one).

wert613 2009-08-09 12:57

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
The general idea seems to be a MacBook Pro with no keyboard.

ysss 2009-08-09 13:03

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
I bet they're going to try bring appstore to desktop. Whether the device use full osx or mobile osx, i bet they're going to take that first step here.

wert613 2009-08-09 13:18

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 310126)
I bet they're going to try bring appstore to desktop. Whether the device use full osx or mobile osx, i bet they're going to take that first step here.

So... A pretty, closed source package manager, with a large percentage of applications that require payment, running in iTunes?

philwil 2009-08-09 13:26

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
I could not wait for apple so I loaded osx on my hp mini 1000 netbook. actually runs pretty well. typing from it right now.

smman 2009-08-09 13:53

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philwil (Post 310136)
I could not wait for apple so I loaded osx on my hp mini 1000 netbook. actually runs pretty well. typing from it right now.

Is wi-fi working in the osx? ;)

tso 2009-08-09 13:53

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
i have been more or less expecting apple to attempt to move the iphone style gated environment onto the desktop ever since the app store opened.

think of it this way, take a imac, put a cortex under the hood, put a variation of the iphone os on it, tie it to itms and app store, complete with parental control tools, price it below the imac, and you have the perfect present for a worried parent to give to their kid(s).

over time, apple can then phase out osx on the non-pro products. and if they tie the appletv into the same ecosystem, they have a set top box ready to go.

wert613 2009-08-09 13:56

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 310148)
price it below the imac.

How low can apple go though, feasibly.

ysss 2009-08-09 14:04

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wert613 (Post 310132)
So... A pretty, closed source package manager, with a large percentage of applications that require payment, running in iTunes?

Most definitely.

How can they refuse to attempt to recreate the AppStore 'success' on the desktop (OS)? For a chance to get 30% of ALL software revenues and get all of the potential control and information that goes through their system.

I'm not gonna go into the 'evilness' of it, it's just a rational thing to do for a(ny) profit oriented company. There are pros and cons to this system.

wert613 2009-08-09 14:06

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 310154)
Most definitely.

How can they refuse to attempt to recreate the AppStore 'success' on the desktop (OS)? For a chance to get 30% of ALL software revenues and get all of the potential control and information that goes through their system.

I'm not gonna go into the 'evilness' of it, it's just a rational thing to do for a(ny) profit oriented company. There are pros and cons to this system.

Makes sense to me, Apple's demographic is perfect for such a system, it'll be accepted with beaming smiles.

ysss 2009-08-09 14:17

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Like I said, there are pros and cons for this system. If I were a content producer, this would be a very appealing arrangement. I mean, just look at AppStore's success.

So it wouldn't be a stretch to predict similar interest from developers\content producer for such a setup.

PS: Put yourself in the shoes of someone who makes a living this way. The need to put food on the table for themselves\their family, y'know? Money and all that.

wert613 2009-08-09 14:20

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Well food is good and all... Alright I concede.

ysss 2009-08-09 14:35

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Sorry, i didn't mean to raise any debate on this issue. Just presenting the other side for 'completion' sake.. you've gotta see the dark side of the moon to get a full view of it, y'know... or.. er...keep your friends close and your enemies closer? ;)

wert613 2009-08-09 14:38

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 310171)
Sorry, i didn't mean to raise any debate on this issue. Just presenting the other side for 'completion' sake.. you've gotta see the dark side of the moon to get a full view of it, y'know... or.. er...keep your friends close and your enemies closer? ;)

Oh, it's not a debate, I was conceding to Apple. *arms fly out in front of him* Applllle... *drools*

johnkzin 2009-08-09 20:37

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wert613 (Post 310125)
The general idea seems to be a MacBook Pro with no keyboard.

No, that's (literally) a modbook.

The Apple Tablet will almost certainly be:

a) cheaper than a MacBook Pro (dunno if it'll be cheaper than a MacBook, though)
b) smaller in screen size (part of the point is the 10"-ish market)
c) even if it's desktop OSX, like on a MB/MBP/MBA, I expect it will have a touchscreen and/or finger optimized UI ... unlike on a MB/MBP/MBA

johnkzin 2009-08-09 20:47

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
re: App Store

If it's based on full/desktop OS X, I don't see how they'd be able to stop people from installing random OS X apps. In fact, think it would be detrimental for them to do that. Having an App Store to make things easier? yes, I'm sure they will. And having "limited accounts" like you can already create on desktop OS X, that'd be good for the kidlets too, and could probably be limited to "app store apps only" with the right magic.

But, I think the locked down experience being talked about here will only work if it's not desktop OS X. It'd have to be iPhone OSX, which makes the tablet into "just a giant iPod Touch". Several people, mac customers, have said that if it's a "desktop Mac, with tablet optimizations" then they're in ... but if it's "a giant iPod Touch", then they're not.

So, I can easily see the locked-down experience being a complete failure for Apple.

Doesn't mean they wont try it. I just don't see it being a success if they do.

wazd 2009-08-09 22:20

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
All these concepts just prove how boring current Apple lineup is in terms of look. People can't even dream about something different than black screen and aluminium edge...

johnkzin 2009-08-09 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wazd (Post 310276)
All these concepts just prove how boring current Apple lineup is in terms of look. People can't even dream about something different than black screen and aluminium edge...

That, or everyone knows and accepts the consistent and polished apple design.

Who needs all of the garishness most PC makers put into their designs? Most of them are butt ugly, or poorly conceived. And the ones that try to ape Apple's designs make just enough modifications to avoid legal issues ... and to dilute/ruin the value of the clean design.

If there's one thing Apple _does_ know, and consistently get right (at least, since Jobs' return), it's physical design of their devices. They don't always get the materials right for constructing the design, but they get the designs right.

sjgadsby 2009-08-10 01:30

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 310278)
If there's one thing Apple _does_ know, and consistently get right (at least, since Jobs' return), it's physical design of their devices.

Hockey puck mouse.

johnkzin 2009-08-10 01:41

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 310297)
Hockey puck mouse.

Maybe I'm odd, but I liked the hockey puck mouse.

philwil 2009-08-10 01:50

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smman (Post 310147)
Is wi-fi working in the osx? ;)

yes wifi and everthing else works including sleep.

sjgadsby 2009-08-10 01:54

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 310299)
...I liked the hockey puck mouse.

Even the early, non-dimpled version?

johnkzin 2009-08-10 02:22

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 310301)
Even the early, non-dimpled version?

Yup. Always worked fine for me.

gerbick 2009-08-10 02:37

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 310257)
re: App Store

If it's based on full/desktop OS X, I don't see how they'd be able to stop people from installing random OS X apps.

It's simple, they won't. If they were to go to this route... then it would be basically a way to further the iTunes Music Store and not stop people from buying Adobe Creative Suite from Adobe.com and installing it on their own.

That's my take. I personally wouldn't care for it. Perhaps some of the more obscure apps that I've never heard of... it could cause my interest in some things. But not my major app purchases.

johnkzin 2009-08-10 02:47

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 310308)
That's my take. I personally wouldn't care for it. Perhaps some of the more obscure apps that I've never heard of... it could cause my interest in some things. But not my major app purchases.

I'm the opposite. While I might be able to live with a Giant iPod Touch ... I don't want one. I want a Macintosh Tablet in the 9" or 10" screen size, with a hybrid GUI (able to run desktop OS X apps, with at most a recompile due to possible CPU differences; but also natively working with a GUI that is more finger optimized, and possibly able to run iPhone apps via some compatibility layer).

If it's a Giant iPod Touch, I'll just stick with plans to buy the AI Touchbook, and run either their native linux, android, mer, or ubuntu-arm.

gerbick 2009-08-10 03:59

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
I've stated it elsewhere. I don't want a giant iPod either. When the rumors started to say that it was going to run the iPod Touch/iPhone OS... I was instantly disinterested because I already have a disdain for the inability to true multi-task.

Apps like Fring just plan suck with the Push notifications and once you go back to that app on the iPhone, it hangs for a moment because it has to log back in, get the message, suppress the pop up, and then allow you to log back in so you can type.

On one day, it took it 1.5 minutes. I touched a button and switched on my N800 to Fring in a moment.

With that said... iTunes hasn't stopped me from putting music on my Mac. iTunes for apps won't stop me from buying apps outside of it either on my Mac.

johnkzin 2009-08-10 04:01

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
I think I misread what you were saying, then.

gerbick 2009-08-10 04:05

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
I seriously don't think you see my agreement.

I can't make that **** any clearer.

johnkzin 2009-08-10 12:19

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
My last message was me acknowledging that we were agreeing (that I had misread the message #26, in my reply with message #27).

ysss 2009-08-10 12:41

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
hug it out.. beaches..

daperl 2009-08-10 12:56

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
The rumor is the Apple tablet will multi-task.

gerbick 2009-08-10 17:22

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 310385)
My last message was me acknowledging that we were agreeing (that I had misread the message #26, in my reply with message #27).

Yeah, we're on the same page, I was just supplementing what you had said with my own opine. Your comment just... sorta caught me off-guard. Your points... we 100% agreed.

On the internet, there's no tone, inflection. Therefore, I'll take the step of stating that your points and mine are 100% in agreement. You're just stating them clearer than I.

Glad to know that I agree with one of the more respected people on the boards.

johnkzin 2009-08-10 17:37

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 310495)
Yeah, we're on the same page, I was just supplementing what you had said with my own opine. Your comment just... sorta caught me off-guard. Your points... we 100% agreed.

On the internet, there's no tone, inflection. Therefore, I'll take the step of stating that your points and mine are 100% in agreement. You're just stating them clearer than I.

Glad to know that I agree with one of the more respected people on the boards.


It's all good :-)

I think you and I tend to say things so differently that we often think we're arguing when we're not (I seem to recall us doing this before, as well). Probably a bit my fault. At any rate, I hope your week is starting well :-)

gerbick 2009-08-10 22:32

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 310501)
It's all good :-)

I think you and I tend to say things so differently that we often think we're arguing when we're not (I seem to recall us doing this before, as well). Probably a bit my fault. At any rate, I hope your week is starting well :-)

To-may-to, to-mah-to...

And yeah. Week's starting off fine. Hope yours is good as well.

timsamoff 2009-08-13 20:41

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/13/...keynote-event/

Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-18 18:03

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
More news:

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/18/...6-inch-screen/

sjgadsby 2009-08-18 18:19

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 312785)
More news...

It's funny. Microsoft once held back competitors' applications by issuing announcements that it planned to eventually release products in those spaces. Now Apple achieves the same effect by not announcing products.

sachin007 2009-08-18 18:29

Re: APPLE TABLET: Ultimate Gallery of Concept Designs and Prototypes
 
Well it is good that apple is coming out with a tablet... how else those guys at nokia will release a tablet?
I am sick of nokia copying apple.... the idea of a tablet was always a brilliant idea.... now apple will take all the credit and nokia will copy them later..

same thing happened with touch screens


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