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johnkzin 2009-08-13 04:18

HTC Leo
 
http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/ru...midphone-specs

The big deal here is not the overall device (it's winmo, and has no keyboard, after all). It's the 4.3" 800x480 screen ... on a PHONE. Contrary to all of the "that's too big for a phone!" commentary elsewhere.

So, I go back to my statement that I want to see a 4.3" 800x480 screen Maemo _phone_ (with a 5 row physical keyboard).

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-13 04:22

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 311407)
So, I go back to my statement that I want to see a 4.3" 800x480 screen Maemo _phone_ (with a 5 row physical keyboard).

Amen, brother.

(And don't forget flash updates... precious, precious flash updates)

Bundyo 2009-08-13 05:08

Re: HTC Leo
 
On a rumored phone.

ysss 2009-08-13 06:03

Re: HTC Leo
 
As long as it's thin and without any sharp edges :D

gerbick 2009-09-16 20:08

Re: HTC Leo
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=026KGhk29Io

DO WANT.

johnkzin 2009-09-16 20:15

Re: HTC Leo
 
Looks sexy. If only it ran Android (or Maemo). :-}

Canterbury 2009-09-18 22:09

Re: HTC Leo
 
10min vid of the Leo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaw84...layer_embedded

UCOMM 2009-09-18 22:14

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 311407)
http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/ru...midphone-specs

The big deal here is not the overall device (it's winmo, and has no keyboard, after all). It's the 4.3" 800x480 screen ... on a PHONE. Contrary to all of the "that's too big for a phone!" commentary elsewhere.

So, I go back to my statement that I want to see a 4.3" 800x480 screen Maemo _phone_ (with a 5 row physical keyboard).

consider how thin the device is though, with a keyboard, the 4.3 won't sound so nice

sachin007 2009-09-18 22:20

Re: HTC Leo
 
Nothing special. The screen responsiveness seems inferior to the iphone. The zooming in the video is new.... but cant see the practical application of that feature. Nice screen size(nokia you threw away that advantage) other than that nothing innovative.

Alex Atkin UK 2009-09-18 22:23

Re: HTC Leo
 
I would be quite happy with something similar to my old HTC Wizard but with a flush WVGA screen, slightly thinner perhaps but the keyboard was fantastic.

That is my one misgiving with the N900, the keyboard. Its going to take some getting used to having the space bar in such an odd place.

pycage 2009-09-19 00:14

Re: HTC Leo
 
What good are these funny two-finger screen gestures for, if you have real hardware keys for zooming in and out like on the NITs. :)

Oh, and I see vsync tearing in the image viewer in this video. ;)
And even worse, Windows mobile...

johnkzin 2009-09-19 02:33

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCOMM (Post 329511)
consider how thin the device is though, with a keyboard, the 4.3 won't sound so nice

Yes it will.

It'll be similar in size to an N810. Perfect pocketable size, IMO.

Laughing Man 2009-09-28 02:53

Re: HTC Leo
 
No TV out or digital compass apparantly. Also no front facing camera

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...battery&page=9

This phone is fast though! I'm weighting it against the n900 though the n900 has more physical features I would prefer over the increase in speed, screen size and capictative touch screen.

sevla 2009-09-28 03:29

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 329514)
Nothing special. The screen responsiveness seems inferior to the iphone. The zooming in the video is new.... but cant see the practical application of that feature. Nice screen size(nokia you threw away that advantage) other than that nothing innovative.

yet way more responsive then the n900's. But i won't start that argument again lol

eiffel 2009-09-28 10:52

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 329622)
It'll be similar in size to an N810. Perfect pocketable size, IMO.

The Leo appears to be smaller than the N810 in every dimension. This makes it highly pocketable for me, as I could comfortably pocket my N810.

If the figures circulating on the web are correct, the Leo is 121 x 67 x 11 millimeters. The N810 is 128 x 72 x 14. The N900 is 111 x 60 x 18.

Comparative volumes (in cubic millimetres) are: Leo 89177, N810 129024, N900 119880. Of course, the Leo doesn't have a physical keyboard. Also, I assumed rectangular shape which is a simplification.

Regards,
Roger

SD69 2009-09-28 20:10

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 334981)
No TV out or digital compass apparantly. Also no front facing camera

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...battery&page=9

This phone is fast though! I'm weighting it against the n900 though the n900 has more physical features I would prefer over the increase in speed, screen size and capictative touch screen.

If you don't prefer the extra speed and larger screen size of Leo, the HTC TP2 is more similar to N900, with TV out and AWS 3G.

Jason404 2009-09-28 20:20

Re: HTC Leo
 
I'd rather have a resistive screen with stylus than multitouch.

NZtechfreak 2009-09-28 20:37

Re: HTC Leo
 
I'm personally hoping the Leo is shipped with the capacitive stylus that HTC patented a little while back - clearly shipping capacitive screens with a compatible stylus is the way forward...

dlhuss 2009-10-07 02:17

Re: HTC Leo
 
this phone is seriously going to eat into the N900 potential market share. i was leaning N900, but now i'm not so sure.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/e...bile/#comments

GeraldKo 2009-10-07 02:41

Re: HTC Leo
 
A 4.3" 800 x 480 screen in a 5.5 ounce unit -- I wish Nokia were releasing a Maemo device with those specs.

Ludio 2009-10-07 03:24

Re: HTC Leo
 
The Leo also has USB host according to some specs I have seen online... Which was a big WTF for some with he n900... It's def a sexy device but the more devices come out the more numb I become imma wait till I can watch hulu comfortable through the web on my phone before I make a jump that should hold me from spending money till about march lol... It's def btween this and the n900 currently I am def not a fan of winmo though

johnkzin 2009-10-07 03:26

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 335196)
the Leo is 121 x 67 x 11 millimeters. The N810 is 128 x 72 x 14.

So, length difference of 7mm, width of 5mm, and thickness of 3mm. "similar in size to the N810" :-)


But, it has no keyboard, no dpad/directional-arrow-keys, and no OS that I'd ever willingly use.

That's 3 VERY LARGE strikes against it.

johnkzin 2009-10-07 03:36

Re: HTC Leo
 
You know... looking at this picture:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....leak-top-1.jpg

And seeing that the LEO has a 4.3" screen, the HTC Touch Pro 2 (on the right) has a 3.6" screen ... sure, you can see the difference, but it's not horribly different. Just noticeably different. (and they're both 800x480, as well)

Then, add knowing that the N900 has a 3.5" screen, and my G1 has a 3.2" screen (which is only 480x320) ...

I'm not sure I'm really going to be that bothed by the N900's screen size. It's not going to be my ideal, certainly ... but bigger than my G1, and not horrendously smaller than the Leo, and barely smaller than the Touch Pro 2. Not ideal, but liveable.

kabex 2009-10-07 21:07

Re: HTC Leo
 
simple question,

is it IMPOSSIBLE to install Maemo 5 on the HTC Leo?

Seeing how hardcore the XDA community is, I can certainly see it happening (if Maemo makes it possible)

Can you imagine what this would mean? The Leo would make the most perfect(to date) mobile computer. The hardware is on another level than the n900.

johnkzin 2009-10-07 23:07

Re: HTC Leo
 
You're more likely to see Android ported to the Leo (by people like the XDA hackers) than Maemo. I could be wrong, but I would expect that there are enough hardware differences that Maemo wouldn't "just run". And I have no idea how hard it would be to get Mer running on it.

(and, while Maemo on more devices would be cool, the Leo still lacks a physical keyboard and a dpad)

kabex 2009-10-08 01:36

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 341468)
You're more likely to see Android ported to the Leo (by people like the XDA hackers) than Maemo. I could be wrong, but I would expect that there are enough hardware differences that Maemo wouldn't "just run". And I have no idea how hard it would be to get Mer running on it.

(and, while Maemo on more devices would be cool, the Leo still lacks a physical keyboard and a dpad)

that sucks. i dont see how they cant make appropiate "drivers" though.. this is linux we're talking about?

johnkzin 2009-10-08 02:12

Re: HTC Leo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kabex (Post 341521)
that sucks. i dont see how they cant make appropiate "drivers" though.. this is linux we're talking about?

Why would Nokia port Maemo 5 to a device made by another manufacturer?

And the only "open Maemo" project/group/team that I'm aware of is Mer ... which isn't Maemo 5, and I bet it'll be a while before they (the Mer team) have the resources to start tackling things like other phones.

That pretty much exhausts your groups of people who would fit your "they". Who else would be porting Maemo (any version) to an HTC phone?


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