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n900 gripe thread
ok, seriously somebody has to do it. I am really excited for this device and plan to buy it as soon as I can get one anywhere on the planet, BUT,
here are my negatives so far with this thing: 1. Syncml over only BT or USB, WTF? I am coming from an e71 and the syncml is great and thorough and, oh yeah, over any network connection available on the phone. Please don't go backwards. And I will never let activesync into my networks, EVER. 2. Screen size. Yeah, so it is the same as the iphone, would it have hurt to just make it a wee bit bigger than iphone? Not necessarily n810 size, but hell, lose the nokia badge on the bezel and give the engineering team an 8-ball and get the screen maxed to the edges. 3. No portrait mode for apps other than phone. Huh? This makes no sense, so much for any hope of one handed operation. 4. Nice processor, why not take off the governor? 600mhz, come one, this thing can do almost twice that, let it rip, buy Mugen stock. 5. Ovi, Nokia messaging. OK, this is not necessarily a problem with this device per se, but I am on a roll. I hate that nokia is forcing me to consume their SERVICES and not just their DEVICES. Messaging is a nice client except for the fact that every email I receive has to go through effin Finland. Ovi chat is great and hey it is jabber, why not let me use the client on my own jabber server? I am perfectly capable of setting up my own IMAP server with very good IDLE support an long timeouts and my own jabber server. What are yours? |
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It didn't take long, did it? :-D
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Unlike certain other manufacturers I could mention, Nokia lets you replace almost all of the built-in apps with third party stuff if you want to (heck on Maemo you can replace the whole OS if you want to!). Many of the third party options are even available through the built-in software (for example Share Online lets you upload pictures to Ovi Share or Flickr or Vox). Quote:
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Pre-emptive strike!
No D-PAD! No Hard Cover! EDIT: Keyboard! No Pipe Key! No Tab Key! EDIT EDIT: ;) :D |
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I definitely have to agree about losing the little nokia tab on the front. If I had one I know its a damn nokia cause I bought the thing.
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Regarding the zooming....will we be able to use the buttons on top to zoom in and out as we always have? I dont care for the swirling your finger deal.
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1 - lack of hard cover. I love my red leather cover on the n800.
2 - screen protector. If the first thing anyone sensible does is slap on a screen protector, why can't Nokia do it for us? 3 - D-pad. Why can't they put it on the back? |
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It didnt even occur to me that there is no dpad.... i didn't think to look for it :( i was so swept away... :( just think how well the bogged down emulators would work with all that power behind em :( |
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I'd still rather have a couple hard buttons to use. Perhaps someone can remap the volume control buttons to work as zoom. |
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I agree with lemmy, Id rather use the hardware buttons.
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If you don't know what double-tap is, watch qgil's demo video again. It's quickly shown before the swirling zoom. Once you have the column of interest fit-to-width, you usually only care about paging after that. But for further font-size refinement you'll have zoom menu items and client-side stylesheets. |
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http://www.design-reuse.com/news/152...-omap3430.html and that was in 2007 |
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http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1562274 This is exactly how I expect the N900 to work except I hope they have addressed some of my issues with messaging capabilities. If I'm wrong I will be hugely disappointed but Nokia has worked hard to update its messaging client and I hope they haven't wasted that effort on this device. |
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sorry, didnt know that about the e75. i would love the email.nokia.com client interface with direct imap. sounds good. thanks for the info
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My gripe is that I can't buy one right now ;)
Of course, I wish the price would be really low, but that's not really a gripe because I think the estimated price is fair (just a bit too high for me). |
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Probably a repeat but backlit keyboard would have been nice.
Atleast i did not see it mentioned. Display and User Interface * Size: 3.5" touch display * Resolution: 800 x 480 pixels (WVGA) * Desktop with up to 4 personalisable views * Landscape and portrait (for voice calls) modes * 3D Graphics acceleration with support for OpenGL ES 2.0 * Brightness control * Ambient light detector Keys and Input Methods * Touch screen with: o tactile full QWERTY keyboard with word prediction o virtual on-screen keyboard o pen input option with stylus * Dedicated zoom keys * Dedicated camera * Dedicated volume keys * Lock key * Notification light * Camera key |
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My two gripes... T-Mobile data frequencies & no announcement about Skype - use the camera (yes/no).
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Can anyone confirm/deny the following:
1. Is the stylus and a stylus holder on the n900? 2. I heard that video calling is not supported right away.. is that true? Thanks |
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2. See the Communications section, under Call Management: http://europe.nokia.com/find-product...specifications Already been mentioned elsewhere, but it states "Videocalling availability will be announced later" HTH |
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Seeing this makes me sooo want to get one....too bad it's a phone (which is MY gripe with it..): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE&NR=1
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No D-PAD - we saw this coming for a little while didn't we? This is the phone variant; a d-pad is definitely more suited for the dedicated tablet format. Obviously size was a hefty determining factor. I understand your frustration though. No Hard cover - Hmmm, as a phone I'd rather have a belt clippable holster of some kind or a quality leather sleeve but many will just get a screen protector/armor and call it good carrying it in a pocket. (maybe not those paying full initial price) I'm guessing plenty of current sleeve-type phone cases will handle this device's measurements decently. From a mass-market/consumer appeal standpoint, I can only see the metal sleeve type of previous models being an option down the road if at all since this has no markings to indicate edges to ride, perhaps again left for a Maemo 5 tablet form factor. Without a real hard bezel to lift a case from the display, you'd have to take a different approach to design. Keyboard etc. - Have we seen much of the virtual keyboard yet? I recall a pic which mimmicked the 4.x virtual keyboard fairly well. Obviously chances are greater for more character choices there, but do we really know what the Ctrl modifier on the hardwware keyboard will do yet? And what about the shift key- who says you can't hold it and press either of the left/right directional arrows and navigate as tabs that way? That may not be the exact method but there should be more than a few ways to generate the results you're looking for, given a little creativity on the programmer's part. And the Sym button- will that pop up a virtual selection of extended symbols such as the pipe you're looking for? Wouldn't it be sweet if each keypad button was OLED and you could see the image of its function change with each modifier? Overall I think one has to look at this at face value- it's a high-end consumer phone with killer web-enabling technologies that will inevitably explode beyond what we see here to include so much more compatibility and convenience that will solidify it's position as the do-everything platform and tool to never leave at home, forget in your car, nor walk more than 3 feet from as you'll always be going back for it. |
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@daveb70: what do you mean d-pad is more suited to 'web tablet variant' and not the phone variant, whne nokia has been releasing a gajillion of phones in the past WITH d-pads..
Btw, what's with calling up on screen cursor? I saw it in the youtube video when they're demo-ing the browser. |
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daveb7: I was trying to call out some of the common complaints from the last few months to avoid having them brought up later. It didn't work.
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I nominate this "The most uninformed thread!" :D
"I heard this rumour, I didn't read the specs or watched the videos... ergo I hate the n900" :D |
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I am going to be an early adopter but this thing is fat at 19-20mm at certain areas (not 18).
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The N810 came with significantly less onboard storage than my N800 had by that point. Also, it used an expensive, non-standard card. With 32 GB on board and a micro SD slot (micro SD seems to be a lot less expensive than the goofy mini SD in the 810) I don't think people will start griping about this on the N900... ...until next year. ;) |
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