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sachin007 2009-08-28 20:35

Nokia n900 shipping date October 1st!
 
From twitter

Just preordered my #N900 at the Nokia Online Shop :) Says it should arrive at October 1st! Wooot!

Den in USA 2009-08-28 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 317526)
From twitter

Just preordered my #N900 at the Nokia Online Shop :) Says it should arrive at October 1st! Wooot!

Nice! Do you pay anything up front for a "preorder?

sachin007 2009-08-28 20:52

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I did not pre-order. I could not find it on nokia usa website. This is a comment from one of the twitter users. I guess you dont pay anything extra for pre-order.

kotzkind 2009-08-28 21:11

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I guess he ordered it from the German nokia shop: http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=6958534

1.19 * 500 = 595.0
so the price is very near, to what nokia said

bluehash 2009-08-28 21:21

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Could you please links us. Thanks

quipper8 2009-08-28 21:56

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599,00 € = 859,9843 U.S. dollars

can NOT afford for a phone. I will have to wait for it to come down or hope and pray it will be cheaper somehow in US

deadmalc 2009-08-28 22:01

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grrr...
It's not avaliable in the uk shop, maybe I'll have to get it shipped to a friend in Germany and then here to the UK if it doesn't show up in the UK shop before end of September.

"Die Auslieferung erfolgt nur in Deutschland."
Deliveries are made only in Germany.

******* ******** ;-)

dormant 2009-08-28 22:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deadmalc (Post 317584)
grrr...
It's not avaliable in the uk shop, maybe I'll have to get it shipped to a friend in Germany and then here to the UK if it doesn't show up in the UK shop before end of September.

Don't forget this will have the German QWERTZ keyboard!

deadmalc 2009-08-28 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dormant (Post 317589)
Don't forget this will have the German QWERTZ keyboard!

Yeah, no problem. I remember I installed about 200 unix servers in germany using a UK keyboard, was funny.

I'd prefer a UK keyboard but, I'd prefer to actually have one than not (or wait an insane amount of time, I've waited too long for this anyway - can't wait any longer)

Viipottaja 2009-08-28 22:57

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Nokia phones are almost without exception "cheaper" in the US, so just multiplying the Euro price with the current exchange rate is likely not accurate.

m_sparks 2009-08-28 23:43

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N900 pre-ordering at expansys:

http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=186949

christexaport 2009-08-28 23:48

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careful! its a listing for the Euro model, not the NAM or TMO model. No AWS or at&t 3G

dansus 2009-08-28 23:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deadmalc (Post 317592)
Yeah, no problem. I remember I installed about 200 unix servers in germany using a UK keyboard, was funny.

I'd prefer a UK keyboard but, I'd prefer to actually have one than not (or wait an insane amount of time, I've waited too long for this anyway - can't wait any longer)

It will very likely be available on the UK site at launch, i would wait.

YoDude 2009-08-28 23:54

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A few hours ago I saw a feed headline that read "Nokia allows Germany and Italy to preorder N900" or some such...

Let me Google that for me ;)





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>> http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/28/n...-to-pre-order/

sachin007 2009-08-29 00:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 317655)
A few hours ago I saw a feed headline that read "Nokia allows Germany and Italy to preorder N900" or some such...

Let me Google that for me ;)





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>> http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/28/n...-to-pre-order/

Why does engadget always talk about nokia negatively and applaud even apple's farts?

daveb70 2009-08-29 00:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 317650)
careful! its a listing for the Euro model, not the NAM or TMO model. No AWS or at&t 3G

Were we expecting AT&T 3G compatibility even in the U.S. version given the FCC details? Tmo uses different frequencies in their 3G and thus unless it's specifically including those freqs we're all relegated to Tmo here in the states for the time being. AFAIK 2100mhz is also a Tmo-capable band if 3G connectivity is a dealbreaker, granted Tmo's coverage is a far cry from AT&T's, as is being discussed in another thread.

If you want the best experience possible, you'd probably use wifi. 3G would be preferred when wifi isn't available but for basic use EDGE will suffice for a lot of things. (not ilarge downloads in an instant) I think if the U.S. doesn't get a release date within a reasonable timeframe of the other side of the pond some here may still choose to obtain a non-U.S. model early on and sell it later when a native U.S. version does become available.

I'm not one to do this, but I can expect others will.

Yaser88 2009-08-29 00:32

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a little steep! best waiting for the contract options - which operator likely to take it ?

jandmdickerson 2009-08-29 01:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 317665)
Why does engadget always talk about nokia negatively and applaud even apple's farts?

Probaby Nokia need to send some advertising their way. Then lets see them bite the hand that feeds them.:D

YoDude 2009-08-29 02:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 317665)
Why does engadget always talk about nokia negatively and applaud even apple's farts?

Never noticed... they seem snarky to me no matter who or what they are talking about.

...anyway I'm just providing the links to back up the original post and not endorsing an opinion or product. :cool:

BTW, I pointed out the difference in price yesterday in another thread and was informed that the European prices included value added tax. I was also told that when VAT was subtracted from these prices the product would be the 500 euro's that was first reported...

Laughing Man 2009-08-29 02:32

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On their podcast (I listen to it) there was this one guy dumping on the n900's resistive touch screen. Saying how it'll never be as good as a capacitative, etc..etc..

Which I find not necessarily valid. I kinda wanted to respond or send in a voicemail pointing out that it's more the UI then it is the choice of touchscreen. He used an example of how he say a guy have to take out a stylus to use his touchscreen phone/pda/whatever and struggle with it. Yet I can use my n800 mostly with just my fingers. I only have trouble hitting the X due to its placement and other tiny buttons but mostly everything else I do just fine using my fingers on a resistive touchscreen.

So proper UI design should pretty much eliminate most of the problems people have with resistive touch screens.

m_sparks 2009-08-29 02:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 317650)
careful! its a listing for the Euro model, not the NAM or TMO model. No AWS or at&t 3G

Crap!! :eek::eek: didn't even think of that! :rolleyes:

Big thanks for the heads up - need to be less emotional about my purchase and check out ALL the facts.

cheers!

BadMojoUT 2009-08-29 04:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 317650)
careful! its a listing for the Euro model, not the NAM or TMO model. No AWS or at&t 3G

Actually, the N900 is listed as having Tri-Band UMTS support, meaning that even the Euro models will support AWS. So there shouldn't be any issues with using it in the US on T-Mobile.

However, Nokia only covers warranty for a device in the region/country that it was bought in. In other words, if you buy a Nokia phone from the UK and try to claim warranty in the US, you're out of luck. You would have to send the device to a Nokia service center in the UK to get a replacement or have it repaired. So there is that to consider.

jalladin 2009-08-29 04:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BadMojoUT (Post 317751)
Actually, the N900 is listed as having Tri-Band UMTS support, meaning that even the Euro models will support AWS. So there shouldn't be any issues with using it in the US on T-Mobile.

However, Nokia only covers warranty for a device in the region/country that it was bought in. In other words, if you buy a Nokia phone from the UK and try to claim warranty in the US, you're out of luck. You would have to send the device to a Nokia service center in the UK to get a replacement or have it repaired. So there is that to consider.

thanks for clearing that up, i was getting worried since i just placed my pre- ordre with expansys ( i think it the uk version is why).:o

so out side the warranty i shouldnt have any issues or see any major differences in the version i get and the US version when it comes available?

twaelti 2009-08-29 09:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 317581)
599,00 € = 859,9843 U.S. dollars

can NOT afford for a phone. I will have to wait for it to come down or hope and pray it will be cheaper somehow in US

- You can get a mobile phone for 20$.
- This is MUCH more than a phone and that is why it is expensive. I call it the Superphone :-) Don't expect the world to be free.
- Waiting might help
- Praying probably won't :D

BadMojoUT 2009-08-29 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalladin (Post 317754)
thanks for clearing that up, i was getting worried since i just placed my pre- ordre with expansys ( i think it the uk version is why).:o

so out side the warranty i shouldnt have any issues or see any major differences in the version i get and the US version when it comes available?

Correct. There are minor differences in the bundling of software. I've seen NAM handsets get things like 6 months free of Ovi Maps out of the box (which then was later introduced to other Euro devices), but you shouldn't miss out on too much. Oh yeah, you'll also more likely get firmware updates far quicker than the NAM counterparts although Nokia has been improving on this front lately.

Interestingly enough, I've already seen rumors for another Maemo device for release in 2010 with bumped up specs. But take that as you will.

christexaport 2009-08-29 23:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BadMojoUT (Post 317751)
Actually, the N900 is listed as having Tri-Band UMTS support, meaning that even the Euro models will support AWS. So there shouldn't be any issues with using it in the US on T-Mobile.

not entirely true. In order to work on TMoUSA, it needs 1700 and 2100, not only one, so if these aren't on the Euro model, and they aren't, you'll only get EDGE data speeds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadMojoUT (Post 317751)
However, Nokia only covers warranty for a device in the region/country that it was bought in. In other words, if you buy a Nokia phone from the UK and try to claim warranty in the US, you're out of luck. You would have to send the device to a Nokia service center in the UK to get a replacement or have it repaired. So there is that to consider.

Not entirely true, either. Before recently, the only way to get Symbian Nseries phones was importers. I regularly bought from overseas and had shipped to the States. I had my warranty. Here's what I usually do:

Go to Nokia.com and register your device online. That's it. Any problems, just do a trouble ticket online, and they schedule the repair, and tell you where to mail it. I usually got it back in about 4-8 weeks, and usually got it replaced if anything seemed hard to repair. Always treated nicely and always got my device back working perfectly. But backup first, because they always flash to the latest firmware before sending her back home.

christexaport 2009-08-29 23:16

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Guys, the prices aren't based on the exchange rate. Nokia prices differently in each market. That's the price over there, not the US

BadMojoUT 2009-08-30 00:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 318092)
not entirely true. In order to work on TMoUSA, it needs 1700 and 2100, not only one, so if these aren't on the Euro model, and they aren't, you'll only get EDGE data speeds.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/f...ive_or_pdf=pdf

That's the FCC report for the RX-51, aka as the N900. If you look at the SAR report, you'll notice that the WCDMA bands of 1700/2100 were tested, which is what T-Mobile USA uses. Now, if you're thinking that the N900 that the FCC tested was a specific NAM variant, then the internal codename for the N900 would have been different from the devices being previewed by people like Eldar at Mobile-Review. For example, if you look at past devices:

Original Euro/Asia N95-1 = RM-159
NAM N95-3 = RM-160

Euro/Asia N86 = RM-484
NAM N86 = RM-485
China N86 = RM-486

Euro/Asia N97 = RM-505
NAM N97 = RM-506

..and so on. The fact that there's only been one variant thus far, the RX-51, and that the FCC tested it on 1700/2100 indicates that importers should have no issues running this device on T-Mobile's 3G network.

Quote:

Not entirely true, either. Before recently, the only way to get Symbian Nseries phones was importers. I regularly bought from overseas and had shipped to the States. I had my warranty. Here's what I usually do:

Go to Nokia.com and register your device online. That's it. Any problems, just do a trouble ticket online, and they schedule the repair, and tell you where to mail it. I usually got it back in about 4-8 weeks, and usually got it replaced if anything seemed hard to repair. Always treated nicely and always got my device back working perfectly. But backup first, because they always flash to the latest firmware before sending her back home.
That's interesting although that's contradictory to my experiences. I used to buy a lot of devices abroad whenever I'd travel. It was a bit of a crapshoot because if the phone ever died, I was pretty much screwed. Heck, once I even had a minor software issue and when I called NokiaUSA support, they were reluctant in helping me out because my device wasn't bought in the US. Don't even ask me about trying to get replacements - I was pretty much on my own.

I never did bother registering my devices so maybe that's the key? Somewhat strange because for other NAM devices I've bought, I could get them exchanged or repaired without having to register. If for whatever reason I have to purchase devices from abroad again, I may have to give that method a shot.

Team C 2009-08-30 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BadMojoUT (Post 318111)
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/f...ive_or_pdf=pdf


That's interesting although that's contradictory to my experiences. I used to buy a lot of devices abroad whenever I'd travel. It was a bit of a crapshoot because if the phone ever died, I was pretty much screwed. Heck, once I even had a minor software issue and when I called NokiaUSA support, they were reluctant in helping me out because my device wasn't bought in the US. Don't even ask me about trying to get replacements - I was pretty much on my own.

I never did bother registering my devices so maybe that's the key? Somewhat strange because for other NAM devices I've bought, I could get them exchanged or repaired without having to register. If for whatever reason I have to purchase devices from abroad again, I may have to give that method a shot.

That has been my experience as well that your out of luck with your warranty if the device is not "officially" sold in your country, I have sent a email to Nokia to clear this up and will post their reply

iamNarada 2009-08-30 22:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BadMojoUT (Post 317751)
Actually, the N900 is listed as having Tri-Band UMTS support, meaning that even the Euro models will support AWS. So there shouldn't be any issues with using it in the US on T-Mobile.

Er.... actually, the n900 listed on the Expansys preoder is not Tri-band UMTS, it specifically says dual band, and neither of the bands are bands that work in the US. Maybe they're just not mentioning the 1700. But buyer beware.

tso 2009-08-30 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 317546)
I did not pre-order. I could not find it on nokia usa website. This is a comment from one of the twitter users. I guess you dont pay anything extra for pre-order.

would probably have helped if you wrapped that twitter quote in either "" or quote tags...

k4r1m 2009-08-31 01:40

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From my understanding i don't think the n900 has been submitted or approved by the FCC and since the due date is October first i don't think the 850/1900 version will come out any time soon.

nilchak 2009-08-31 01:50

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The N900 has been submitted to the FCC.

christexaport 2009-08-31 02:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamNarada (Post 318493)
Er.... actually, the n900 listed on the Expansys preoder is not Tri-band UMTS, it specifically says dual band, and neither of the bands are bands that work in the US. Maybe they're just not mentioning the 1700. But buyer beware.

Expansys is known for this. They are speculating its release, and getting as many preorders so they can have an idea how many they need to order from distributors. I'm hoping a quadband model supporting 850/1700/1800/2100 to cover all us models.

iamNarada 2009-08-31 02:58

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Ha! You and me both. While we're at it, why don't we wish for non contractual data plans so that we could switch to whom ever was offering the best plan or had the best coverage at the moment.The quad band is still possible, there is such a thing as a request for confidentially to the FCC, which at the very least delays when they make testing and/or approval information public. But I think it's more likely that there will be a separate model that appears later for AT&T. That's what T-mobile would want, and I think Nokia realizes that the majority of the market they're after will not be able to get the n900 without a carrier subsidy, so they need to keep the carriers happy. All speculation of course, just my 2 cents.

christexaport 2009-08-31 03:38

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You must also realize that Nokia won't allow at&t to do the branding and locking down of the device, and they probably don't even want it, since it would cripple their network further with its data hungry browser and nature.

christexaport 2009-08-31 04:02

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this could be Nokia sticking it to at&t for being so demanding, oppressive, and limiting to its customers, and in turn, Nokia's customers.

arj 2009-08-31 07:55

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What exactly is the difference in keyboard between the German and the Italian e.g.? Does anyone know if I can order it to Denmark? Sadly there is no nokia store available for .dk :(

My n810 is with english keyboard and that works fine. But German might actually be better since the keys are almost the same (ö = ø, ä = å and so on).

Peter@Maemo Marketing 2009-08-31 08:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deadmalc (Post 317584)
grrr...
It's not avaliable in the uk shop, maybe I'll have to get it shipped to a friend in Germany and then here to the UK if it doesn't show up in the UK shop before end of September.

"Die Auslieferung erfolgt nur in Deutschland."
Deliveries are made only in Germany.

******* ******** ;-)

Patience, gentlemen!

French beet the UK: http://boutique.nokia.fr/nokia-fr/pr...&culture=fr-FR

Khertan 2009-08-31 09:20

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Humm ... French store ... sold out ...


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