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skatebiker 2009-08-29 10:01

Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
Possibly not an N810 specific problem but maybe somebody can help me.
I am running Garnet VM on the N810 and Hotsync Manager under Windows XP in a VMware session running under Kubuntu on my laptop.
The IP addresses:
my laptop linux: 192.168.0.187
N810: 192.168.0.186
VMware session with hotsync: 192.168.122.254 as Bridged

Pinging from my laptop host to VMware works, from VMware to both host and N810 works as well, from N810 to host works as well but NOT from N810 to VMware session.
I tried giving the VMware XP a fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.x range but worsened the situation: the VMware session could not connect to the network anymore aklso when I set the network of it to NAT.

Can somebody help me ?

Addison 2009-08-29 16:20

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
I tried to help someone else the other day on getting Garnet VM to Hotsync from a laptop computer.

It ended up being a total nightmare for the both of us.

The set up I have at home is having an ethernet cable from my home computer in Windows XP connected to my wireless router and then using a fixed IP address like you mentioned. I've never once had a problem this way.

If your laptop is completely wireless, maybe try using an ethernet cable instead.

Also, you might want to double check to see if you have any firewalls active anywhere. Last idea would be to uninstall Garnet VM and reinstall again, I've heard that helps sometimes.

If you catch the solution, could you please post back? :)

skatebiker 2009-09-01 14:02

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
I tried it on another laptop (on my work) in which the situation is:
Linux laptop host : 192.168.1.176 (fixed)
VMware session with WinXP and Hotsync : 192.168.1.199 (fixed, network bridged)
Nokia N810 : 192.168.1.229 (fixed)
This did work partially: the hotsync prompted for a user and I filled in 'Administrator' and clicked OK which resulted in starting a sync and ended shortly with 'sync failed'.
Obviously, here the reason is that the N810 can reach the VMware session now as it is in the 192.168.1.x subnet.

Addison 2009-09-01 23:43

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
Well, it sounds like you know more about what you are doing than the two of us combined. :)

Again, post back if you end up finding a solution for this.

Cheers!

gkuenning 2010-06-15 07:03

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
It's been a while, but did you set up NAT inside vmware? It turns out you can't use iptables-based NAT on vmware; you have to change /etc/vmware/vmnet8/nat/nat.conf.

In the [incomingtcp] section, you should have a line like this:

14238=192.168.3.3:14238

where 192.168.3.3 is the VMware IP address of your WinXP VM. Then restart vmware.

When I did this, I got a (as in "one") successful hotsync over TCP. Then, for reasons I completely don't understand, Garnet decided to start using UDP instead. I added a similar NAT line for UDP and port 14237, but all I get is a three packets in each direction and then it quits on me. I'm still working on that.

If anybody knows how to get Garnet to only use TCP, I'd be most appreciative...

burmashave 2010-08-05 05:19

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
I tried this some months ago and ran into the same behavior -- three packets and done. I beat my head against the wall but couldn't get it to work.

One of the things I tried was to use a USB wireless NIC connected directly to the VM but still no joy.

gkuenning 2010-08-06 02:22

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
I've given up. I think it's a bug in Garnet. Unfortunately, they're acting like a dying company--they don't respond to my emails.

burmashave 2010-08-06 14:24

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
I'm done unless I come up with something I haven't tried yet. I have a new laptop with Vmware running on Lin, so I may try syncing to my laptop. The annoying thing is that syncing with Win on Vmware seems to *almost* work.

Part of the prob is that Garnet Hotsync directly with Windows is spotty at best.

Instead of using Hotsync for backups, I've created a virtual external memory card, and I use Resco Backup to do regular backups. However, this doesn't solve the problem of synchronizing apps.

As for not responding to emails, Access seems a bit weird. I've never heard of them providing useful responses, and their communication is thin. On the other hand, they keep coming out with new releases. But on the other, other hand, I wish they would eliminate the expiration on their releases so I wouldn't have to update.

Addison 2010-08-06 20:46

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
If you guys are only syncing to install apps, I can do that here and send you the gvm.store file.

If you're only wanting to sync your personal private data, accounts, bank records and contacts, I can manage all of your information here at home as well. :)

How can you lose?

burmashave 2010-08-06 21:13

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
I install apps by copying the prc file(s) to the virtual external card and then running the prc. This works pretty well for me. Resco Explorer connects wirelessly to Samba shares, which makes it very easy to copy install files from my PC to Garnet and then run them.

gkuenning 2010-08-09 01:54

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
Burmashave, how did you configure this virtual external card? I'm running 1.0.5 Beta, and I can't find an option to do that.

I'm currently backing up my entire N900 with rsync; since that copies Garnet's files, I get a backup there as well. My problem is that I'd really like to extract some information from the .pdb files (e.g., I have some scripts that publish this week's calendar on the Web for friends) and without hotsync, I can't get that to happen.

burmashave 2010-08-10 02:24

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
gkuenning, instructions for creating one or more virtual external cards comes from this post:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=29

In this thread:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=14391&page=3

Garnet is very funky. I've had crashes with data loss more times than I can remember. Resco Backup has gotten me up and going every time.

jschan 2010-08-10 03:07

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
I don't use VM, but in reading your posts, it sounds like there are some troubleshooting steps you can try on your respective setups:
1) Use the older XP-only version of PalmDesktop (I don't recall for sure, but I think it's 4.x vs the Vista-enabled 6.x version). The vista version installed apps just fine for me, but it didn't seem to sync up the data. I could very well be wrong here in that I didn't test this setup much.
2) Within the hotsync manager setup, not only do you need to check the settings to allow a network sync, but you also need to configure the network sync to specify what ip addresses are allowed to connect to it. By default, I think it restricts it to the last subnet. If that's true, that might explain why skatebiker got closer to making it all work in his 2nd attempt with fixed 192.168.1.x addresses compared to his 1st split 192.168.0.x and 192.168.122.x attempt.
3) In the hotsync setup, restrict syncing to only contacts, calendar entries, memos, todos, and installs (aka be sure to disable backups). I found that the backup option seemed to error out all the time. Since all the data is in your garnet data file, you can manually just backup your data file (/home/user/.gvm/gvm.store).
4) After what looked like a good sync (aka hotsync logs said it was successful and I believe it mentioned something about records exchanged), I couldn't find the records in any of the apps in the system. I didn't spend much time looking into it, but I *think* there's a garnet daemon that's running behind the scenes that needs to be somehow refreshed. Rather than spend the time figuring it what it was and how to refresh it, I just rebooted my phone. In getting back in, I found all the data there as expected.

Hopefully, some of what I experienced might help you guys get up and running. If/when you do get to that point, another thing I found is the vm hotsync didn't save my sync host setting. To fix this, I just manually edited my /home/user/.gvm/gvm_settings file to add my sync host (under syncHostname).

Also, I noticed that even without that setting, once I was able to successfully sync to one box, I couldn't seem to change the sync host to a different box. It's not that important, but if any of you figure out why that is, I'd love to hear it. A normal palm device has internal hotsync settings that save the info for the master sync host that it'll allow you to change. Unfortunately, the garnet vm doesn't include that internal hotsync settings manager app.

burmashave 2010-08-10 04:59

Re: Garnet VM to Hotsync Manager in VMware session does not connect
 
jschan, thanks for your thoughtful response. I had pretty much attempted what you suggested. I did beat my head against the wall trying to get this to work, right down to dumping the packet traffic. I have sync'd Garnet to a native Win XP installation, so I know all is set up as it should be.


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