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kenny 2009-09-03 02:46

$600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Yes, it's pre-order, but hey, at least it's a listing......
Sure makes me wonder what the best-deal internet price is really going to be?
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http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wire...roductid=25125

allnameswereout 2009-09-03 02:49

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
WTF. That is 420 EUR... that is 180 less than it costs here...

kenny 2009-09-03 03:12

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Whoa, I just noticed the frequencies on the "US Version":
850, 1900, 2100 mhz.
HELLO AT&T ?????
Are these guys just blowing smoke?
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Here's the "Euro" version:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wire...d=25114&view=1

Texrat 2009-09-03 03:32

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 320580)
WTF. That is 420 EUR... that is 180 less than it costs here...

Our economy sucks more. :p

kenny 2009-09-03 03:44

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 320580)
WTF. That is 420 EUR... that is 180 less than it costs here...

Remember that Nokia's / dealers' prices are different in different parts of the world. As has already been stated by others in several threads, it's not just a simple exchange rate calculation from one area to another.
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Plus, it's pre-order from a vendor......NOT written in stone.

k4r1m 2009-09-03 03:53

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Hmm interesting how could we know for sure that this has the ATT freqs? because after all it could be a lie can't it?

dansus 2009-09-03 04:00

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Read the small print, they reserve the right to make up the prices as they wish and change them at any point if they use the 'pre-order' moniker. :rolleyes:

mobiledivide 2009-09-03 04:04

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 320580)
WTF. That is 420 EUR... that is 180 less than it costs here...

Electronics always cost less in the US than they do in Europe on official release, definitely with Nokia handsets eg. the N97 is basically the same price Euro - USD at retail. Mobilecityonline is not the best retailer there are some shady stories about them floating around the internet. They have a store here in Manhattan that I have purchased from before (my N78), they are pretty knowledgeable about the North American high end mobile market so who knows maybe this is true?

fms 2009-09-03 05:30

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 320580)
WTF. That is 420 EUR... that is 180 less than it costs here...

And make sure you take lower sales taxes (applied similarly to VAT) into account!

<diabolical laughter>

sachin007 2009-09-03 05:34

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
http://gizmodo.com/5350875/nokia-boo...olutely-no-eta

mrp 2009-09-03 06:03

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 320580)
WTF. That is 420 EUR... that is 180 less than it costs here...

but some of us get more keyboard letters ;)

Nokia could e.g throw in a free life time navigation to compensate the ugly price difference...

christexaport 2009-09-04 02:35

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Lots of etailers do this. Speculative sales via preorders of expected models.

kenny 2009-09-04 23:12

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 321215)
Lots of etailers do this. Speculative sales via preorders of expected models.

And the MobCity speculative price might turn out to be pretty close?

CASMania 2009-09-04 23:38

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
The N900 is on NokiaUSA since yesterday for preorder with a free BT-703 headset for $649, and it does NOT have AT&T 3G band (1900 MHz), so I highly doubt that site.

sachin007 2009-09-04 23:54

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
I am waiting for it to be on buy.com.

Buy.com does not charge sales tax....


Sales Tax


Do I have to pay sales tax?
Yes, if the Ship To address on your order is in the following states:

California
Massachusetts
Tennessee
New York

kenny 2009-09-05 13:49

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CASMania (Post 321829)
The N900 is on NokiaUSA since yesterday for preorder with a free BT-703 headset for $649, and it does NOT have AT&T 3G band (1900 MHz), so I highly doubt that site.

Yes, internet outlets usually play fast and loose with quotes and specs for pre-order items. Once the item is in stock, they'll correct the specs.
I just read a report that bluetooth headset sales are down and most people that have them rarely use them. I sure don't want that freaky looking thing. I'll be glad to wait a while and let the cheapest internet deal pop up for the N900.

McChicken 2009-09-05 15:09

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Sorry Guys,
People here in Europe often forget both the customs fee and VAT (sales tax) most countries here in EU have +20% sales tax as well as 4-5% customs fee + shipping, add approx 30%, then that price will not be as cool....

luca 2009-09-05 16:21

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McChicken (Post 322093)
Sorry Guys,
People here in Europe often forget both the customs fee and VAT (sales tax) most countries here in EU have +20% sales tax as well as 4-5% customs fee + shipping, add approx 30%, then that price will not be as cool....

I doubt the n900 is manufactured in the usa, so customs fees and shipping costs also apply.
Taking into account VAT, the n900 is still ~15% cheaper in the states.
Not the usual rip-off (for us europeans) on nokia part this time, but let's see how the price will evolve (I guess that in a short time you'll find it for less than $400, while the european price will stay at 600-650€, depending on country and local VAT rate).

McChicken 2009-09-05 19:10

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 322129)
I doubt the n900 is manufactured in the usa, so customs fees and shipping costs also apply.
Taking into account VAT, the n900 is still ~15% cheaper in the states.
Not the usual rip-off (for us europeans) on nokia part this time, but let's see how the price will evolve (I guess that in a short time you'll find it for less than $400, while the european price will stay at 600-650€, depending on country and local VAT rate).

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you are correct, Nokia do not have the same brand recognition in USA and by that will be overshadowed by Apple Marketing
$ 400.- if the N900 will not be a hot seller, then sure THAT will be THE best buy..and it is not by anyway impossible.

thecursedfly 2009-09-05 20:08

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
a couple questions from a noob:
would it be possible for a european to buy one in USA and use it in Europe? are the frequencies completely different?
i imagine the rest would be like the UK version (keyb.layout..)?
possible to get it shipped to here without additional taxes?

slowly looking for the best price I can find, so far it's the UK version that costs ~570 €.. ^^

nowave7 2009-09-05 20:37

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thecursedfly (Post 322214)
would it be possible for a european to buy one in USA and use it in Europe?

Worked for me with my N810! :D
Just joking of course. It should work since it's a quad bend mobile phone. At least on the GSM networks. Not too sure about the UMTS though, but I guess it should as well.

texaslabrat 2009-09-05 21:20

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nowave7 (Post 322224)
Worked for me with my N810! :D
Just joking of course. It should work since it's a quad bend mobile phone. At least on the GSM networks. Not too sure about the UMTS though, but I guess it should as well.

from a technical standpoint, yes it will work fine. From a warranty standpoint...not so much

nowave7 2009-09-05 21:53

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texaslabrat (Post 322242)
from a technical standpoint, yes it will work fine. From a warranty standpoint...not so much

Well, you could always send it back to the States if you need some sort of repairs, but if you take good care of it, as I do with my N810, you'll be just fine.

vvaz 2009-09-05 22:08

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thecursedfly (Post 322214)
possible to get it shipped to here without additional taxes?

Officially when importing item from outside of EU you should be billed with VAT + customs. It is usually done that way that on border packages are inspected by officers in magazines of importer.
If you order item directly from on-line shop, they are obliged to package items in such way that officers will knew what is inside and you will be billed almost automatically.
You can get around it: ask family, acquitances to buy it and send you in normally wrapped package (or just bring it with them if they are visiting your area).
Such packages are inspected at random and you have chance that you will not pay additionally. Note however that you should earmark those money because chance for inspection is always.
With smaller difference in price with N900 than with N8x0 + lost guarantee + not so weak USD I don't think game is worth it this time.

texaslabrat 2009-09-05 22:10

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nowave7 (Post 322255)
Well, you could always send it back to the States if you need some sort of repairs, but if you take good care of it, as I do with my N810, you'll be just fine.

taking good care of is irrelevant to the likely warranty claims. See the 5800 speaker debacle as an example. And I have no experience qith cross market warranty claims but it is possible that there is a clause limiting claims to u.s. residents.

luca 2009-09-06 10:37

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vvaz (Post 322260)
If you order item directly from on-line shop, they are obliged to package items in such way that officers will knew what is inside and you will be billed almost automatically.

For the n800, I couldn't find any us shop willing to send it overseas. The few that did charged so much for shipping that it wasn't convenient, so the only way to get one was ebay.
If the seller sends via usps it's more likely than the package will slip through customs, if they use a courier it's assured you'll to pay customs fees and VAT, because otherwise they (upd/dhl) wouldn't get to bill you their extortionate fees.

nowave7 2009-09-06 11:31

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texaslabrat (Post 322261)
taking good care of is irrelevant to the likely warranty claims. See the 5800 speaker debacle as an example. And I have no experience qith cross market warranty claims but it is possible that there is a clause limiting claims to u.s. residents.

That is true. I don't know if there is an option of obtaining a world wide warranty, or maybe Nokia is providing it by default?

thecursedfly 2009-09-06 11:51

Re: $600 US at mobilcityonline
 
hmm, I have a friend in USA, maybe I can get her to help me in case... ^^
so it would be ~420 € instead of the ~570 € from UK... but no warranty (unless I get help again from that friend and pay shipping costs.. :P), and possibility for extra taxes...

but as hardware/functionality, everything should be fine. okay, thanks.


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