Iphone 3GS user to make the switch?
 

So, I've always been a fan of Nokia's, I like them unlocked and I hate anything a network operator can do to limit a phones functionality.

Recently I have owned, in this order; a T-Mobile G1, a Nokia N79, a Nokia 5800 XM and now an Iphone 3GS all within the last year.

Before I bought my iPhone, I really wanted to get an N97, but as I was coming from a 5800 and it was running the same OS as the N97 (which I find boring and laborious) I felt that the N97 wasn't going to offer me much more than I already had. Despite my hate for apple, because of all their restrictions, and my dislike of O2 for them failing to really offer a 3G service, I decided to get the 3GS.... of course mine is Jailbroken and unlocked and currently operating on the 3 network.

I've now owned this device for around 2 months and I have to say I love it. Since the jailbreak I have found that I can customise it probably further than I have any previous phone.

Why then do I find myself captivated by the N900? I really feel I want to sell my 3GS and buy the N900.... but would it be that smart of a move?

Let me share some of the things about my iphone that make me want to switch:

1. Signal strength... my home, as covered by three for 3G services comes under a "variable" quality area. On my Nokia's more often that not I would pick up a decent 3G signal in many rooms of the house, with the iphone this is limited to a couple of locations upstairs only, and is not consistent. I hope the N900 is as good as, if not better than my 5800 in this regard.

2. Lack of Flash support in browser.... although since jailbreak I have installed "imobilecinema" and can now view videos directly from the youtube site, it seems that many embedded videos are still not supported. I dont know why, but I imagine the N900 to support far more instances of embedded vids?

3. Duh, the lack of multi tasking - many times I have found myself needing this.

4. My 5800 was able to display widescreen format films across the whole of the screen, once converted. My iphone only seems to put 4:3 films up in full screen, widescreen ones lose too much viewing area with the black bars. Without getting too technical I believe the N900 will get me back to full screen?

5. I would really appreciate being able to the the N900 as a USB mass storage device... cant do on iphone unless you install something such as ifunbox on the computer you want to link up to - which is not always practical.

I think i'm definitely going the buy the N900, but I think I will have to hold on to my 3GS until I have made my mind up as to what I like the best.

Please share your thoughts with me. What other things will benefit me by making the switch?

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Check this thread....

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=316975&postcount=1

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Hi sachin007,

Yeah I saw your post there, and I liked it, although I did feel it was biased towards the N900... and being an iphone user I know that a couple of the things you mention there that an iphone cant do, it actually can... granted first you need to jailbreak ;)

Do you know whether there will be any turn by turn navigation app for the N900? I've got tomtom for the 3GS and find it to be pretty good, it'd certainly be one reason not to ditch the iphone, but not sure of it being enough of a reason.

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i think i understood it right that the nokia maps would do turn by turn for free, but we should probably get that verified by someone else.

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Realistically, I think you should try the unit before you make a decision. I think that the majority of the testimony from this site is not based on first-hand interaction with the N900 but based on enthusiasm and as such should be taken with pause.

}:^\~

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Ovi Maps is free, but the turn by turn feature has been traditionally a license thing, and not free. It may come with a trial though, and I heard walkilng directions will be free, but not sure how true that is.

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As an iPhone 3G user, a jailbroken iPhone - I did that to my iPhone 2G (1st Gen) but not my current 3G - is more featured laden than the original carrier based only iPhone.

And with my experience with the N810... even that's (jailbroken iPhone) not up to the same level of "what you can do" with Maemo. Therefore, if you're not too married to the iPhone 3GS - I have some Unity3D based projects that will keep me on the iPhone in at least as a dev for the next year, but some friends of mine have a TON of iTunes music they've purchased that was before the DRM-free days - I'd say switch.

Especially since you'd like to be able to manipulate the phone. I find jailbroken iPhones to be a honest step in the right direction in terms of not feeling like you're in some ultra-confined box; however it's still missing something. Namely... the next upgrade, it will invariably break that independence since Apple wants way too much damn control over your purchased phone... whereas the N900 seems to be that wide open road that most people with an ounce or two of technical savvy will love.

If the N900 ends up being close to what it's hyped to be - and offers a video communication and/or experience (for sharing) - then I'll be switching myself from the iPhone.

Oh... and the lack of true multi-tasking truly is a pain in the butt.

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I've currently got a iPhone and a HTC Hero (Android) and to be honest with you I'm not sure I will swap one or both devices with the N900, don't get me wrong I would love to but I can't bring my self to preorder one yet.

I really don't know why... maybe its the lack of media regarding the features of the phone, yes we have some foreign videos but the content of them is so painfully generic you can guess what they are saying.

So I suppose I was hyped for it when it was announced but the coverage from Nokia world was basically nonexistent (quite telling if you ask me) has deflated the gadget nerd inside of me. None of the features that we have seen have "wowed" me to the point of wanting to spend £500 on one.

Edit: And ill miss the trackball from my Hero... god I love that trackball. ;)

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Thanks guys, some interesting views.

I think that when it comes down to it the nokia will be able to do far more as a device, but ease of use as become quite a big thing for me. Iwill get my hands on an n900, and if the ease of use is somewhere near the iPhone, then I can say good bye to apple. I just hope this nokia can live up to the hype

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I'd say buy the N900, try it for a week, and if you decide you prefer the iPhone, sell it here for a bit less than you bought it.
Since we all know you'll keep the N900, that's a reasonable solution. :p

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well I've used the hero its a amazing device but android is no media power house and at its current rate it's a infant maybe a year from now it will be in its prime. As far as the iphone i only had the ipod touch and from my experience it was okay. I like the physically keyboard on the n900 i can see myself using this like i did my n95 8gb (and dearly miss it). I went out to Miami and recorded my cousin full freestyle (hip hop) session a hour long, went back to the hotel and uploaded it. I had sonic 1, 2 , 3 and Mario games playing them on the train because i had a physically keypad loved it. tethering, skype , accelerometer games, plus apps from third party developers and with a major developer base. This device will explode and i feel it you have maemo 5 being the first maemo cellular device so data connection on the go is possible. If i had a iphone and hero I'd damn sure sell it lol. One thing for sure apple will make a better iphone in may next year and the hero will be replaced knowing HTC shoot look at engadget.com they already talking about a HTC Android HD.

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Oh yea a physical keyboard would be one of the major plus points for me that and SummVM and a good SNES and NES emulator. ;)

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I find its always helpful to compare the hardware, as well as the software (OS + apps) of devices I'm evaluating. So in addition the very-good-so-far iPhone and N900 data points, I would also offer the following:

1. Both phones utilize same underlying CPU Core chip (different from CPU itself): ARM Cortex-A8
2. Both have same RAM capacity: 256Megs
3. Both have same graphics controller: PowerVR SGX
4. N900 has considerably more user RAM: 3Gig versus 0
5. N900 has higer pixel-depth of iPHONE 3GS: 800X480 versus 3200X400

The iPhone out-strips pretty much all WinMo phones on the market today, but FTW the N900 matches or surpasses the iPhone in critical compenentry. Details: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomp...=2019&id2=1938

Best,

digittante

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note, its the iphone 3gs that has cortex, earlier ones do not...

oh and 3200? ;)

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I'm currently using an iPhone 3GS and the Blackberry Bold. In general i use the bold for instant messaging (BB messenger and YM) and the iPhone for the rest (browsing, some productivity apps, entertainment, good video cam). I'm sure the N900 is very capable and I'm going to get one as soon as it's available (I'm keeping my options open as I don't believe the preorder bundle is the best deal possible yet), but I don't think it can replace the iPhone in my workflow with its super high convenience yet. So I'm really hoping to see Blackberry Connect for Maemo so I can replace the Bold with it :)

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The technical ability of the N900 isn't really where any doubt is at. It's the apps that will make up the difference in the mainstream.

As of right now, those announcements are too lacking to convince people to switch or consider it fully yet.

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:confused:

N900: 32 GB flash storage, 256 MB RAM, 768 MB swap, microSD (16 GB)
iPhone 3GS: 32 GB flash storage, 256 MB RAM.

800x480 vs 320x480.

N900 has wide aspect ratio 16:9 (WVGA), supports tons of proprietary codecs including Flash (and does not need XViD/DiVX to be reencoded), 5 MP Carl Zeiss, recording at 800x480 25 fps. It sports a 1320 mAh removable battery (versus 1219 mAh non-removable battery), 10/2 mbps (HSPA), full BlueTooth 2.1 + EDR ie. no jailbreak necessary, transreflective screen (Nokia N810 and Nokia E71 are usable in direct sunlight; iPod touch 2nd generation is not), ...

iPhone 3GS has digital compass, App Store, Skyhook Wireless, multi touch, 2:3 aspect ratio, 256k color.

I'm sure there are more differences... :D

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The n900 will also have skyhook wireless because it just depends on network access. My n95 8gb also has skyhook wireless which is used in google maps before the gps kicks in. So i assume it should be there on n900 too. And maemo is confirmed to get ovi store. Also there are rumours that the n900 may have digital compass.. but not sure

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No that is GSM triangulation. Skyhook Wireless is an API which you have to license. Since the device has GPS and A-GPS it doesn't matter much... provided the GPS is better than the one in Nokia N810. Say, what kind of GPS chip is in Nokia N900?

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That would be so sweet... enhanced reality apps, here we come!

Video tagging/drawing/... your environment anyone? :D

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It isn't the technical numbers, what make the iPhone better than the rest.

The hardware itself isn't the best and the software isn't as open as something else. But what you can do with the iPhone, works really well.

But I must say, N900 looks really interesting now and I think this is the hardware and software what I expect from the N810. N900 looks like a toy for the Linux stuff and testing, iPhone for productive datas which are very important for me and my work (contacts, calendar, 1password, online-banking tool, notes...).
So I can't and don't want to replace everyday a new systemimage with my iPhone. I want to and I do use my iPhone to help working faster.

That's the reason I call N900 my "toy". If it doesn't boot because I try something, it doesn't matter and don't hurt me to be productive next day.

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It isn't at little pricey toy ?
Well for me would be my phone, pim, multimedia player and netbook if there is way of getting 720p tv-out (like Samsung Omnia HD).