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zoovision 2009-09-06 01:52

N900 Streaming Video
 
Does anyone know if http streaming or rtsp streaming video will be supported for video playback?

I have a couple of links to videos if someone with a N900 wants to test them out.

abbra 2009-09-06 13:28

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Give links, I can check.

Also, the other direction works too -- Qik is available albeight currently it is not obeying libplayback policies properly so it clashes with stock Camera UI over camera resources. This will be fixed hopefully before release.

abbra 2009-09-07 04:55

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
I checked first link you've sent me. I entered it into browser and it asked me to either launch Mediaplayer or save it. I launched Mediaplayer and it played without visible glitches.

The connection is mobile broadband, 1Mbps.

There is one issue though -- Mediaplayer's buffering is not adapted to the type of content being streamed, so for .mp4 video it does not buffer enough to play without interruption. So now and then it paused for buffering data. It plays without interrupts for about 5-10 seconds. This I think is related to an issue already reported back from 770 times.

Second link was less successful. Mediaplayer was launched to handle rtsp but the stream never succeeds. This might be both codec and connection issue.

I'll check with Mediaplayer people on both issues.

zoovision 2009-09-07 12:29

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Thanks for checking the links for me. If anyone else wants to play around with them here they are:

http streaming or progressive download: (iPhone style streaming)
http://cdn.zoovision.com/zoovision/KibaEp1N900.mp4
Curious to see how it works over wifi

rtsp version one 3gp with h.264 encoding
rtsp://stream.zoovision.com/KibaEp1n900.3gp

rtsp version two without h.264 encoding (This works on most Nokia devices via realplayer)
rtsp://stream.zoovision.com/KibaEp1n9002.3gp

Thanks for your help as we want to release a few video apps for the N900 and want to see what will give the best user experience.

If anyone is interested in helping out with the apps let me know.

Sean

abbra 2009-09-07 12:51

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Sean,

we'll check 3gp case. Networking streaming in case of HTTP is relying on ranges support in HTTP/1.1 to give optimal performance and also expects that server side is doing correct job. Most HTTP servers mmap or similarly prepare files for interactive use if they are accessed through HTTP/1.1 ranges (i.e. if server has reported that it allows to use byte-based ranges to specify part of resource being accessed).

In this case it does but probably my 1mbps connection had some latency issues as well.

mrp 2009-09-07 12:55

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
abbra,

please check whether areena.yle.fi videos works with 9.4 adobe flash

Jack6428 2009-09-07 13:08

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
i wanted to know wheter you can use the n900 to watch tv (streams)... these to be precise:
mms/rtsp/http streams - 3gp, rm, wmv, asx, isf, wvx
?

could you plz try NASA TV?
i have a few different links to it here:

LQ:
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368570

mms://209.73.189.73/nqsenc004_b?StreamID=92270823&pl_auth=a3d64672b97b 9d62ea6fc91aaf25086e&ht=120&pl_b=00D90C088656316A9 B616F32294AA508A1&CG_ID=1368570

HQ:
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163

mms://209.73.191.142/nqsenc005?StreamID=92270818&pl_auth=8dbec96615434f e3bcab8919f24388fe&ht=120&pl_b=00D90C088756316A9B7 173085F4AA50845&CG_ID=1368163

thanks!

abbra 2009-09-07 18:34

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Jack6428,

the supplied playlists refer to files with unknown codecs.

I'm not going to test every single link you are sending to me as there is no way to supply all codecs with N900 sales release. For cases where some free software or open source gstreamer codec is available for formats you expect to get played, MediaPlayer will be able to play such files if you'll install codecs onto the device.

Our Gstreamer guys promised to provide some documentation on Maemo.org, outlining steps to enable any gstreamer plugin support on Maemo 5. Once plugins are installed and MIME types for them are registered with Tracker, standard MediaPlayer will work with those codecs.

I hope community support for extending list of available codecs will come through Maemo.org Extras repositories. Of course, there are limits as to what hardware could allow without certain optimizations on Neon and DSP fronts (and even there we have some limits) but overall Media Player is quite extensible and agnostic to formats/codecs as provided by gstreamer. There is no need to drop Media Player "just because" your favorite stream is not supported right now.

The same applies to almost any applications utilizing gstreamer on Maemo 5.

sachin007 2009-09-07 18:51

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Hello Abbra,

Thank you for the information.... can you tell me if yahoo launchcast plays on the device either from the media player or the web

http://new.music.yahoo.com/launchcast/

abbra 2009-09-07 19:08

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
The launchcast works in Browser. Sound is clear and OK to my ear.

Most of Flash-based internet radios would work well, at least in my (albeight short) testing. Depends on heaviness of that flash widget usually and latency of available connection, of course.

I think that could conclude preliminary testing we did in this thread. Thanks everyone, hope you'll get good experience once N900 will be available!

Bobbaford 2010-02-10 23:41

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
hi, wondering if u can help... videos stored on my network hard drive at home, open up the default media player on n900, recognises storage (which i was impressed with) and all folders and files but when playing only audio comes through but no video. assume avi but coiuld be xvid or all manor of codings... i downloaded extra codecs thing from app manager but still no success... any ideas please?

kevinm2k 2010-02-11 20:27

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
i got same prob i think a bug has been posted for this, i think someone mentioned it freezes on first frame but plays audio correctly? can someone confirm?

bunanson 2010-02-12 06:38

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zoovision (Post 323135)
Thanks for checking the links for me. If anyone else wants to play around with them here they are:

http streaming or progressive download: (iPhone style streaming)
http://cdn.zoovision.com/zoovision/KibaEp1N900.mp4
Curious to see how it works over wifi

rtsp version one 3gp with h.264 encoding
rtsp://stream.zoovision.com/KibaEp1n900.3gp

rtsp version two without h.264 encoding (This works on most Nokia devices via realplayer)
rtsp://stream.zoovision.com/KibaEp1n9002.3gp

Thanks for your help as we want to release a few video apps for the N900 and want to see what will give the best user experience.

If anyone is interested in helping out with the apps let me know.

Sean

All 3 streams, mp4 is the best quality overall, follow with H.264 3gp, 3gp without h.264 see only bottom 1/2 of video. Are you making more of those animations? They looked awesome.

bun

svalavuo 2010-02-24 12:37

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinm2k (Post 521859)
i got same prob i think a bug has been posted for this, i think someone mentioned it freezes on first frame but plays audio correctly? can someone confirm?

I can confirm this. :(

I use VDR & streamdev-server.
With mplayer I can get video working, but with N900 mediaplayer one still image with audio track playing.

bunanson 2010-03-02 15:48

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svalavuo (Post 544243)
I can confirm this. :(

I use VDR & streamdev-server.
With mplayer I can get video working, but with N900 mediaplayer one still image with audio track playing.

Have you updated your OS?
Tried download/install WorldTV99. The N900 mediaplayer plays the .mp4 clip silk smooth, till the end, both audio and video. So does the mplayer, A/V desync did not check.

bun

kevinm2k 2010-03-03 16:37

Re: N900 Streaming Video
 
Is this bug fixed in the 1.1.1 release? or maybe 1.2 when it comes out.

I can play 3gp files or mp4 over the network just not divx.

(Using Built in Media Player)


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