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Poor Mail for Exchange Support
Looks like the Mail for Exchange application doesn't support all of the password enforcement features its possible to set on an exchange server...
The sample I have only allows a numeric password to be set - My sysadmin is enforcing a alphanumeric password... Had the same issue on most s60 nSeries devices other than eSeries & n97... Hope they rectify this before launch or there will be a lot of angry customers who are looking to use this device for business purposes and cannot. |
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are you kidding? Of course you have alphanum password support there.
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Without any source this is just FUD and something to ignore.... Plesae come up with a source.
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I have a device and I have tested it myself.
When trying to set a password in Settings > Device Lock. It only accepts a numeric lock code.... When connecting to a Exchange Server which enforces a 6 letter password, needing uppercase, lowercase and numbers - It fails everytime. Same settings work on e71 without issue. My conslusion for this is that the security framework doesnt support alphanumeric passwords - Just like older nSeries devices, they were missing TARM. http://blogs.nokia.com/s60blogs/inde...inistration_r/ |
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Well, I hope this get fixed as this is a MUST for me as well.
Email is 50% of the usage of my e71 at the moment and I expect the N900 to be up to the task... |
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Agreed - My firmware is early and I hope that this gets fixed in a later update.
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Yes, you're now a bit confused. Alphanumerics work fine with Exchange.
Device lock has nothing to do with Exchange, it's for the device itself. |
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Remember, Mail for Exchange deals with syncing contacts, calendar (singular usage intended :-(), email etc.
It's not like group policies you get on Windows authenticated to Active Directory (and presumably on Windows Mobile too) |
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When you sync a new device with an Exchange Server, the first thing it does is enforce a its policy to the device. In most cases this includes a password policy - Mine enforces a alphanumeric password. As the device cannot handle the enforcement of a alphanumeric password, the M4E client will not continue with the sync session and error. If the device lock functionality cannot support alphanumeric passwords, M4E is dooomed in most mid > large business. |
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The device lock is just a lock to stop pressing buttons while in the pocket and stop people using it without asking. It's never been part of the Mail support.
I can't say I've ever seen Exchange force any policy onto any Linux devices I've used with it; short of its own authentication it demands. |
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Its part of the Exchange Protocol.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc182279.aspx This applys to any device which syncs with an Exchange server. Windows Mobile, eSeries Symbian, iPhone all support password enforcement (invoke the device lock after x minutes, require password to unlock). |
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This IS definitely part of MFE security policy.
But my password is all numeric on my E71 and it works, so assume my V large company feels this is OK. But I'm sure they may change it in the future, so would be really good to make sure this gets fixed. Mike C |
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So, what sync problems can occur if device safely ignores this "enforcement"? Why sync will stop to work? Quote:
And it sounds brilliant for me as with this "really intelligent" MfE logic in S60 I have lost all my data in S60 phone including photos from my vacations. Just because in one not-so-wonderful moment I have forgotten my password and S60 reformatted my phone :-( |
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"Security Policies on Windows Mobile Powered Devices Managed by Exchange Server" N900 device is powered by Maemo (linux based OS), not WIndows Mobile. |
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Has anyone got MfE working with their corporate servers?
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Maemo implementation just works as expected and does not bother me with lock requests. |
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many thanks for this, I had assumed my E71 asking me to do the device lock dance was a function of exchange. but good to hear it all works. Mike C |
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Has anyone else had problems with calendar event sync in the N900? If I do a full manual sync from the settings, I get the calendar events, but I would expect the N900 to fetch calendar events as well as part of the normal sync.
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Yes. This is how it works for me. And what do you mean as a "full" manual sync? Resynchronization option? If you experience problems with calendar sync through MfE, could you put more details about the issue? |
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What server do you use for syncing? Exchange 2007 or something else? |
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I have set Mail for Exchange to *not* sync automatically, but I want to go to the Email application and from there do a "Send & Receive". I assumed this would also update my Calendar as in the settings for Mail for Exchange I have "Synchronise calendar and tasks" enabled. Is my assumption correct? I can't see a way to manually request a calendar update from the Calendar application. Also in Mail for Exchange settings I see "Last syncronisation" as "Today, ...". And as I said earlier "Synchronise manually" from Mail for Exchange settings syncs my calendar as well. So my question would be now that is it required to have automatic sync enabled in order for the calendar to also be synced? Yes, I am using Exchange Server 2007. |
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Active Sync can require a specific device look.
Integration into the enterprise world is more than just syncing mails. A Exchange Server can refuse syncing if the device does not support certain policies or encryption standards. Ask anyone with a 1st or 2nd gen iPhone (no hardware encryption). |
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For those who aren't familiar with the security settings configuration pages relating to Badger's original statement, linked below is a screenshot from Exchange 2003. Note- this is how we manage our small number of iPhones (not a single WinMo) with password enforcement where I work. The BES handles the vast majority of our mobiles- Blackberries of all sorts.
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6...spropertie.jpg HTH |
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When syncing with Exchange, do all email features work? I use Colour Categories a lot (GTD) and appointment Flags. Are they supported in the Maemo email software at all?
Are there any issues with Tasks and Contacts? Are the contact fields in the Maemo contacts software sufficient? I am planning on getting a personal Exchange server VM sorted out especially for this, so I would appreciate some comments on how I can use the N900 for these things. |
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1) Using scheduled sync 2) Using manual sync (from configuration panel applet) Yes, I am using Exchange Server 2007.[/QUOTE] |
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Vitaly,
Thanks for checking this out for us. You are syncing directly over the air to Exchange 2007 right, not using a desktop connection? Have you seen any support for using Exchange ActiveSync Push protocols to update Mail, Contacts, or Calendar? I was hoping that Nokia would have implemented Push, because then I could recommend an n900 instead of a WinMo device to the big bosses upstairs. Their meetings are handled by secretaries and change too fast for them to be called all the time to be told to resync their calendars, and syncing would have to be scheduled every at least every 15 minutes. For my own use, as long as I can schedule it to sync the calendar every day that would be fine. Email needs to be nearly instantaneous, though. Cayle |
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We have test server in our organization. I am going to ask to configure it in the way shown in the post #33 and check how N900 client will behave. Quote:
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Is there support for Outlook's Colour Categories in the mail program and MfE?
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I hope MS Office Mobile arrives on Maemo soon, and supports this. |
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