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meme 2009-09-13 12:48

Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
I am thinking of getting Nokia n900 or Acer Tempo DX900. Thing with Nokia n900 is it doesn't work on Canadian GSM network like Rogers and Fido. Which have same frequency as AT&T.

Acer Tempo DX900 seems to be more of a world phone that works on all frequencies:

Quote:

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1
GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 2
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SIM 1
I wanted to pre-order Nokia n900 via Nokia USA but a little research and found out it doesn't work on 850/1900 frequency. How the f**K Nokia n900 is a world phone. What a crap. If you want to make a phone like this make sure it works on all frequency. I like all the things about Nokia n900 but frequency is holding me back to buy this phone. Who wants to throw good money at a phone that doesn't work around the world. Data and voice have to work.

R-R 2009-09-13 13:35

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Uh someone reported using it on FIDO on this forum...

(as a phone of course, with GSM / EDGE, no 3G until WIND / Vidéotron get their AWS band up)

* Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
* WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHz

Bratag 2009-09-13 14:55

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Excellent use of the search button and good use of first post.

Sounds to me like the nokia might be a little above your level and you should opt for the acer.

texaslabrat 2009-09-13 15:30

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meme (Post 326199)
I am thinking of getting Nokia n900 or Acer Tempo DX900. Thing with Nokia n900 is it doesn't work on Canadian GSM network like Rogers and Fido. Which have same frequency as AT&T.

Acer Tempo DX900 seems to be more of a world phone that works on all frequencies:



I wanted to pre-order Nokia n900 via Nokia USA but a little research and found out it doesn't work on 850/1900 frequency. How the f**K Nokia n900 is a world phone. What a crap. If you want to make a phone like this make sure it works on all frequency. I like all the things about Nokia n900 but frequency is holding me back to buy this phone. Who wants to throw good money at a phone that doesn't work around the world. Data and voice have to work.

Meme, the N900 doesn't work on the *3G* 850/1900 frequencies. It works the GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 just fine and thus is very much a "world phone" (especially since it *does* work on 3G on a major U.S. carrier and soon to be Canadian carrier as well). If having 3G is all-important, then yes...there is an issue here for you regarding the N900. If having the actual device is the most important thing, and "slumming" with EDGE and what wifi you can find is good enough for connectivity then you'd be set with the N900 as well. In fact, you should be able to tether the N900 with an existing 3G phone and have the best of both worlds if 3G is REALLY that important for you. So, there are several scenarios here that are workable until the 1700/2100 3G network gets rolled out up north.

Hope that helps :)

barry99705 2009-09-13 16:04

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texaslabrat (Post 326245)
Meme, the N900 doesn't work on the *3G* 850/1900 frequencies. It works the GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 just fine and thus is very much a "world phone" (especially since it *does* work on 3G on a major U.S. carrier and soon to be Canadian carrier as well). If having 3G is all-important, then yes...there is an issue here for you regarding the N900. If having the actual device is the most important thing, and "slumming" with EDGE and what wifi you can find is good enough for connectivity then you'd be set with the N900 as well. In fact, you should be able to tether the N900 with an existing 3G phone and have the best of both worlds if 3G is REALLY that important for you. So, there are several scenarios here that are workable until the 1700/2100 3G network gets rolled out up north.

Hope that helps :)


I keep seeing this over and over again. This just sounds like the stupidest idea. Why would anybody carry two cell phones? Well, I can understand if you have a side business and a company provided phone, but other than that, just so you have 3G on your "good" phone???

texaslabrat 2009-09-13 16:27

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barry99705 (Post 326264)
I keep seeing this over and over again. This just sounds like the stupidest idea. Why would anybody carry two cell phones? Well, I can understand if you have a side business and a company provided phone, but other than that, just so you have 3G on your "good" phone???

Again...I point to the caveat of "If 3G is all-important". It's good to have options. Certainly it's not ideal (that's why I switched to T-mobile), but it *is* workable if one needs 3G speeds and 1700/2100 3G isn't available. One can always swap the SIM back and forth as needed. Flexibility = A Good Thing (tm)

AbelMN 2009-09-13 16:36

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Maybe the biggest phone producer in the world is.n't really interested in a realitve small and difficult market like North America. In the US Nokia is dependant on providers. Not so in the rest of the world. I pay 20€ / month for phone and streaming internet. You?
But thanks, good to know; I'll take my 6 year old 6021 to the States. It works a lot better there and on more places than a Verizons 70$ / month contract in a US Palm.
Verizon blocks other providers in the US, while my Netherlands KPN contract logs in with all GSM providers in the US.

nilchak 2009-09-13 16:37

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texaslabrat (Post 326245)
Meme, the N900 doesn't work on the *3G* 850/1900 frequencies. It works the GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 just fine and thus is very much a "world phone" (especially since it *does* work on 3G on a major U.S. carrier and soon to be Canadian carrier as well). If having 3G is all-important, then yes...there is an issue here for you regarding the N900. If having the actual device is the most important thing, and "slumming" with EDGE and what wifi you can find is good enough for connectivity then you'd be set with the N900 as well. In fact, you should be able to tether the N900 with an existing 3G phone and have the best of both worlds if 3G is REALLY that important for you. So, there are several scenarios here that are workable until the 1700/2100 3G network gets rolled out up north.

Hope that helps :)

A quick question based on this not-so-ideal solution....
I have a AT&T SIM card but its voice + Data.

So if I switch my SIM into the N900, I won't have 3G data on the N95, and vice versa.

So can I get a data only SIM card seperate for the same plan ? Does US ISP's give seperate seperate Voice and Data SIM cards for the same plan ?

texaslabrat 2009-09-13 16:44

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 326274)
A quick question based on this not-so-ideal solution....
I have a AT&T SIM card but its voice + Data.

So if I switch my SIM into the N900, I won't have 3G data on the N95, and vice versa.

So can I get a data only SIM card seperate for the same plan ? Does US ISP's give seperate seperate Voice and Data SIM cards for the same plan ?

I suppose in theory you could get an additional data-only line added to your account (normally used with laptop 3g cards) and throw it in the N95 for tethering. I don't know what the net price difference would be though.

christexaport 2009-09-13 17:18

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
nilchak, not usually, but it won't hurt to ask.

christexaport 2009-09-13 17:32

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbelMN (Post 326273)
Maybe the biggest phone producer in the world is.n't really interested in a realitve small and difficult market like North America. In the US Nokia is dependant on providers. Not so in the rest of the world. I pay 20€ / month for phone and streaming internet. You?
But thanks, good to know; I'll take my 6 year old 6021 to the States. It works a lot better there and on more places than a Verizons 70$ / month contract in a US Palm.
Verizon blocks other providers in the US, while my Netherlands KPN contract logs in with all GSM providers in the US.

AbelMN, I don't see your logic. The N900 was announced with AWS, a nascent frequency only used in the US. It has done something few other manufacturers have done by supporting this new frequency instead of the 850/1900, which is over capacity in the US at this time. 1700/2100 is the fastest growing frequency, and will be in far more places in no time.

Nokia will probably release the N900 in the US first, and even unlocked, it will be compatible with the cheapest GSM carrier, something many have complained about in relation to the NAM models being at&t only.

Of course you pay little for your mobile plan. Your country is probably already blanketed with 3G. America is alot larger land wise, and covering such a large area is costly and not easy. Our carriers have costs other carriers don't have. But the situation needs improving, I agree.

meme 2009-09-16 12:53

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Nokia n900 can used in future network operator WindMobile.ca. They operate on 1700 MHz / 2100 MHz. Their launch date is Mid November.

danramos 2009-09-16 13:21

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Heheh... built-in cellular radio strikes again. :) Which cellular tech did you WANT? Too bad.

meme 2009-09-16 18:48

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 327845)
Heheh... built-in cellular radio strikes again. :) Which cellular tech did you WANT? Too bad.

I have 3g USB modem from Novatel, Ovation MC950D offers triband 850/1900/2100MHz HSUPA/HSDPA/UMTS and quadband 850/900/1800/1900MHz GPRS/EDGE. I use it for internet for my laptop.

This modem pretty much won't work on WindMobile.ca's sim 1700 MHz/2100 MHz.

Throwing money around all these incompatible modems and phones on different network. Money doesn't grow on tress ;)

christexaport 2009-09-17 01:18

Re: Nokia n900 vs Acer Tempo DX900
 
meme, you can still get a 3G capable dumbphone from any carrier and tether it to the N900 via BT for 3G access. not as elegant as it could be, but doable.


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