The N900 Wikipedia Article
 

Good day people,

I have decided to start working a little on the Wikipedia article for the Nokia N900 as a way : 1) to better know my future phone and 2) hopefully promote the device to others.

I would like for anyone with 5 minutes and a generous spirit to go to the N900 Wikipedia article and do some proof-reading, make suggestions and do improvements. Your help will be greatly appreciated. You can leave comments here or on Wikipedia.

If you feel I have left out important informations about the device please tell me so. If have have written something incorrect please put me back on track.

Thank you very much ! :)

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Hey Mandor,

I would like to write a German Artikel on wikipedia.de. The N900 ist also my next Phone.

I'd like to take some details from your english version...

Greetz from Gernany!

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As soon as I saw the announcement and official spec sheet of the N900, I edited that wiki page to reflect proper details (that you see on the right).

But resisted from doing the rest as I suck at that. Now the page looks pretty detailed. Will keep an eye on that! Thanks for your efforts.

Btw, why wouldn't Nokia update that page? Or better even, take ownership of that page?

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@Mofarocker :

Once I have submitted an article on Wikipedia you are pretty much free to do whatever you want with it. As far as I know Wikipedia, it is a good idea to translate an article from english to another one. We may be able to share information in the future. Try looking up on the Wikipedia website for more information.

This maybe ?

@GeneralAntilles :

Thanks for your contribution but unfortunately it was reverted. Would you mind to elaborate on what you said. Do you mean there is no way to tell if it work or not with, say, a 32 GB microSD card because there is none available on the market right now ?

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Because Wikipedia has a rule against it. Any edit must be of neutral point of view.

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Where did you get the info that it will only work on orange in the UK?

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@ deadmalc :

The Orange UK is not my edit. Feel free to correct it. My guess is it will work on any network supporting the frequencies. I will have a look at that.

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That's a relief a wave of panic spread for a second, I'm just in the middle of transferring from orange to t-mobile at the moment!

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Ha ha ! I feel the pain.

Here is the updated UK carrier section :

The Nokia N900 can be used on the Orange, T-Mobile and 3 (roaming on T-Mobile) networks which use the 1800 MHz frequency-band for GSM/GPRS/EDGE (2G) and on the O2 and Vodafone networks which use the 900 and 1800 MHz for 2G. All the previously listed providers and 3 use the 2100 MHz (WCMDA) frequency-band for 3G.[14] Virtual operators, such as Virgin Mobile, will connect on one of the network suppliers (T-Mobile or Vodafone) for network coverage.[15]

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Shouldn't this just say "The Nokia N900 is compatible with all UK networks"? Or am I missing something here?

Regards,
Roger

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Christ . . . Wikipedia. Anybody else remember the fun we had with the Maemo article last time I tried to make a big push for improvement? :rolleyes:

This has been the same issue Nokia's specifications have had with every single tablet they've released. A certain size of card is available when do their certifications, so that is the size they mention in their specifications (they can't very well say it supports 32GB when 32GB cards are unavailable for testing, can they). Unfortunately the certification never has anything to do with what the hardware and software are actually capable of using.

The N800 is clearly capable of using cards over 8GB (there are several users using two 32GB and two 64GB card configurations), however the specifications seem to claim it's limited to that. We also know the N810 is capable of supporting more than 8GB as well.

Well, the same issue applies to the N900 specifications. 16GB is what was available for testing, so 16GB is what they say in the specs all the while the hardware and software are perfectly capable of supporting cards up to 2048GB in capacity.

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@ eiffel :

Yeah I guess I could just write that the N900 works with all major network providers in the UK. I had to look at each carrier frequency-band and it took me a while so I decided to leave all the details.

@ GeneralAntilles :

I know what you mean. Some wikipedian have took upon themselves to guard articles against changes and will revert said changes without looking further. It can be a pain sometimes to edit Wikipedia ...

That is probably why I decided to add information to the N900 article right now, when the device is not well known of the public. I mean people are a lot more relax with edits made on "young" article (aka stub).

@ All those with a N900 :

Would you mind to take a high quality front facing picture of the physical keyboard (QWERTY, AZERTY, etc ...) and of the on-screen keyboard.

Thank you

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couple of things,

768 MB swap is not "/swap" but just "swap".

~1 GB of ext3 is not mounted on /opt, but on /home. /opt is a symlink to /home/opt.

"The MicroSD card is formated as a FAT32 partition." eMMC is formated as a FAT32. MicroSD is of course what ever user puts there.

I could edit the wikipedia, but I but too lazy for that now :)

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Unfortunately the retail-packaged N900 is not yet available, so getting a good picture for use in the article will not be possible until after release.

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"The accelerometer can also be used in games and third-party applications such as Bounce which comes pre-loaded"

Bounce being pre-loaded is speculation. It is not listed anywhere to be pre-loaded.

"Premium services must be bought in order to get voice-guided navigation, traffic and safety camera information, premium travel content, 3D landmarks and weathe"

Voice guided navigation has not been announced AFAIK.

"Application development support" mentions C++, Qt and python, but not C/GTK+. Only C/GTK+ is actually officially supported for now.

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Thanks !

Since I got you here what FS does Maemo 5 support ? That depends on the kernel right ? I have seen somewhere that Maemo 5 supports (most common) : ext2, ext3 (not ext4), FAT16, FAT32.

Updated section :

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I think that the fs support is the same as in Maemo4.

While this is true, because /opt is linked to /home, it sounds wrong :) Wording should somehow still tell about the /opt, or don't tell anything about /home and /opt but just say "for extra applications". Actually that wouldn't be 100% correct either :)

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Fair enough for bounce. Although, if memory serves well, there is a video where the Nokia representative says it comes pre-loaded. Can't remember which one so I will delete this part.

I will have to admit this is from extrapolation. The N900 website says it comes pre-loaded with Ovi Maps. When you go to the Ovi Maps it says you must buy a premium services (aka voice navigation). Where did you get this information ?

OK I will correct it.

Keep 'em coming ! :D

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Plus UBIFS! Not sure about ext4.

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http://europe.nokia.com/find-product...#navigation-gn

and

http://maemo.nokia.com/features/ovi-maps/

Not a word about premium services or voice guided navigation.

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For the supported file systems :

@ mikkov:

I want to get it right. So if I say :

I am using Ubuntu and never knew about all that. :eek:

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I don't think that there is support for XFS and JFS, or do you have source for that?

Also AFAIK UBIFS cannot be used on mircoSD. It is for raw flash media such as 256 MB NAND on N900 and N8x0. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBIFS

Second quote is factually correct, but it is not very good as a sentence. It needs to be rewritten.

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@ mikkov :

Does it sound better like that ?

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Again, last sentence doesn't fit in there. This is why I don't usually edit wikipedia :)

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The kernel does support it. But just to be safe I will delete them and leave only the most common (ext2, ext3, FAT16 and FAT32.

I stand corrected. I got excited here. I copie/pasted all the FS supported by the kernel. Some might not be supported at all and some might not be supported on the microSD card.

OK, thank you, that is what I was looking for for the moment. I will rephrase it when an opportunity presents itself. When I won't be able to abuse your time anymore ... :p

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Are you talking about Linux kernel in general or about the kernel which ships with Maemo5?

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Ha ! I think I understand now. Do you mean there will be no premium services (voice guided navigation) to buy because 1) it is preloaded or because 2) it will not be available for Maemo 5 ?

I deduced a premium service will be available to buy because the N900 comes pre-loaded with Ovi Maps and this application (on other Nokia phones) is upgradable with premium services.

So what is your stand on this one ?

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Kernel which ships with Maemo 5. I am trying to find the link where I found this information but I lost it. Might not be reliable. I will leave it with : "such as ext2/3 and FAT16/32". Meaning there might be other FS supported.

Still, I don't see why somebody would take the support for a those FS out of the kernel ?

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I mean that stick to the facts, make no assumptions. If there is no reliable source for premium services or voice navigation, it usually means that it isn't there. Remember that spec sheets are marketing material and that they say what is there, not what was left out.

So there is no voice navigation for N900, unless somebody comes with reliable souce which says otherwise.

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A good reminder for anyone editing an article on Wikipedia.

That will stand for the supported FS too. Let's not assume XFS and JSF are supported.

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. . . and we can always add in all of the cool features we left out once we can confirm after release. ;)

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"Fingers crossed"

I do want a voice guided navigation software on the N900. If it comes pre-loaded I won't complain.:p

I have uploaded an image.

If I remember correctly, I shamelessly took that sentence from this forum. I can't seem to find it (again). Any help would be appreciated.

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I think the tilting was mentioned in one of the videos showcasing the n900 when it was first announced.

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@ Wizard of Oz :

I am going through the preview videos once more to be sure I have not missed anything, but I can't find the tilting phone application. Do you remember which one it is ?

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@ mikkov

Thanks. Although I am quite surprise to see that as it seems not to be working for the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRy5_Ov-6AI

At around 8:30 the guy ask the Nokia representative about that feature and tilt the phone but nothing happen ... ?

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I have added this entry to the Wikipedia article :

Although I am sure there is both sensors on the device I would like your help to include a proper citation on the functionality (on the N900). Grazie mille.

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Hey people,

I am working on a history section for the Wikipedia article on the N900. I would like to know your opinion on it.

It is still under construction so please be gentle with me. ;)

On a side not I have asked for a reassessment of the article. It is a stub now and should deserve at least a C.

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My first general impression says the tone is too narrative. Needs to be a bit more encyclopedic.

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I agree with the general, its too narrative, like an essay (which I should be writing). If I had time I would edit it, if its not done in two days then...